Some misconceptions on TGP2 - GoFuckYourself.com

wolfshade · 08-12-2001, 05:43 AM

After reading exxotica's post I feel the need to explain a thing or two about TGP2 and teh adult business as a whole:

TGP2 is NOT the answer to all your problems
It is an improvement on regular TGP's designed to make the conversions better.

This does not mean that all you have to do is slap a page together and watch the money roll in.

Marketing is still and will always be the MOST IMPORTANT factor of online promotion.

The design must be right, the sponsor must be the right one in comparison with your gallery, etc....

Even now I still make good $$$ by submitting to regular TGP's by applying the right techniques on gallery promotion.

The point is that TGP2 is set up for more productive traffic meaning that I can make 3 times as much applying those techniques to TGP2 galleries and our test galleries have proven this to be true.

1 gallery can be a lucky shot, but we now have 11 succesful galleries in the game, and therefor I think it is safe to asume our theory is a proven one.

Now we as the TGP2 movement are doing everything we can to make this as easy on you as possible

My staff has set up a traffci engine for TGP2 sites

Midnight has created an autosubmittor

We have a gallerypool for starting TGP2 sites

A site database/tradelist

A BBS to discuss, learn and develope

A TGP2 toplist

Sponsors offering special deals for TGP2 sites and gallerybuilders

So everything is set, and being improved upon constantly. Leaving only the marketing factor up to you and your sponsors.

I think I do not need to explain further

Wolfshade

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dynamite · 08-12-2001, 07:10 AM

You forgot something... There is also a TGP2 Forum.

Lane · 08-12-2001, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dynamite:
You forgot something... There is also a TGP2 Forum.

he said that already

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kush · 08-12-2001, 12:08 PM

But he didn't include the link

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Lane · 08-12-2001, 12:27 PM

maybe he didnt wanne be spammin .. lol

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Lane · 08-12-2001, 12:29 PM

his url got banned at AWI already, and the next day AWI opened their own TGP2 forum

that AWI board is really pissing many people off

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[This message has been edited by Lane (edited 08-12-2001).]

Lane · 08-12-2001, 12:30 PM

double post sorry

[This message has been edited by Lane (edited 08-12-2001).]

dynamite · 08-12-2001, 12:51 PM

I like spam!

dynamite · 08-12-2001, 12:58 PM

I like spam!

wolfshade · 08-12-2001, 01:10 PM

Tim is just pissed at me because I dare say what others think

He's one corrupt ass and I told him.

He just didn't like that very much

That's teh real reason he banned me, but I hack in on ocassion just to piss him off

Wolfshade

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washiez · 08-12-2001, 01:48 PM

Yeah its just funny. Watching you guys start this TGP 2 and now a few boards have their OWN TGP 2 board. Not just AWI ... check around..

I guess it can only be for the best though. Maybe TGP 2 will stick. Hey who remembers a few years ago, when a few of us started this thing called New Age Link Lists? Didnt work out but sort of a similiar idea but with link lists.

Kimmykim · 08-12-2001, 02:11 PM

TGP2 isn't going to make everyone money, but the ones who follow thru on it should clear a very nice profit, especially on the amount of bandwidth and content they will be investing.

Hmmm, that sounds just like good avs setups and sponsor programs...

Rod · 08-12-2001, 02:18 PM

But, once again, check what it does when the CJ business went to CJ2...the traffioc in that scene dropped like crazy....and they are now makingless money then before.

Hope it won't do that to TGP2 tought.

Kimmykim · 08-12-2001, 02:26 PM

TGP2 is, or should be, always geared to lower traffic -- any time you have a shot at quality the quantity goes down drastically -- think of:

1. avs traffic (which is like gold if you know how to market from inside your avs site) or

2. search engine traffic (hell people with fewer than 10k hits a day can sometimes throw around a hundred joins a day if they have good templates from the marketing standpoint) or

3. mailer traffic (converts like a house on fire, day in, day out and you can tell who plays with their numbers if you understand the spots you have) or

4. type-in traffic (these guys know exactly what they are looking for when they type it in).

Each of these methods is based upon the fact that you've got surfers who are targetted, not just looking for FREE but actually looking for PORN. Most of the se people that I know don't want anything to do with the word free in their keywords unless they are throwing trash traffic at a 4free type program (who in turn is using a mailer system among other things to generate money) --

Bottom line is that each webmaster has to decide what kind of traffic to go after and design their marketing approach based on the demographic -- after all trying to sell shoes to someone shopping for soup isn't really going to do any good either...

wolfshade · 08-12-2001, 03:42 PM

Right on da money KK

Wolfshade

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08-12-2001, 05:43 AM	#1
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Some misconceptions on TGP2 After reading exxotica's post I feel the need to explain a thing or two about TGP2 and teh adult business as a whole: TGP2 is NOT the answer to all your problems It is an improvement on regular TGP's designed to make the conversions better. This does not mean that all you have to do is slap a page together and watch the money roll in. Marketing is still and will always be the MOST IMPORTANT factor of online promotion. The design must be right, the sponsor must be the right one in comparison with your gallery, etc.... Even now I still make good $$$ by submitting to regular TGP's by applying the right techniques on gallery promotion. The point is that TGP2 is set up for more productive traffic meaning that I can make 3 times as much applying those techniques to TGP2 galleries and our test galleries have proven this to be true. 1 gallery can be a lucky shot, but we now have 11 succesful galleries in the game, and therefor I think it is safe to asume our theory is a proven one. Now we as the TGP2 movement are doing everything we can to make this as easy on you as possible My staff has set up a traffci engine for TGP2 sites Midnight has created an autosubmittor We have a gallerypool for starting TGP2 sites A site database/tradelist A BBS to discuss, learn and develope A TGP2 toplist Sponsors offering special deals for TGP2 sites and gallerybuilders So everything is set, and being improved upon constantly. Leaving only the marketing factor up to you and your sponsors. I think I do not need to explain further Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]

08-12-2001, 07:10 AM	#2
dynamite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63	You forgot something... There is also a TGP2 Forum.

08-12-2001, 12:08 PM	#4
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	But he didn't include the link ------------------ Kush is brewing up a wicked $urpise for everyone...

08-12-2001, 12:27 PM	#5
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	maybe he didnt wanne be spammin .. lol ------------------ Best Free CJ script icq: 6757061

08-12-2001, 12:29 PM	#6
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	his url got banned at AWI already, and the next day AWI opened their own TGP2 forum that AWI board is really pissing many people off ------------------ Best Free CJ script icq: 6757061 [This message has been edited by Lane (edited 08-12-2001).]

08-12-2001, 12:30 PM	#7
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	double post sorry [This message has been edited by Lane (edited 08-12-2001).]

08-12-2001, 12:51 PM	#8
dynamite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63	I like spam!

08-12-2001, 12:58 PM	#9
dynamite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63	I like spam!

08-12-2001, 01:10 PM	#10
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Tim is just pissed at me because I dare say what others think He's one corrupt ass and I told him. He just didn't like that very much That's teh real reason he banned me, but I hack in on ocassion just to piss him off Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]

08-12-2001, 01:48 PM	#11
washiez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,118	Yeah its just funny. Watching you guys start this TGP 2 and now a few boards have their OWN TGP 2 board. Not just AWI ... check around.. I guess it can only be for the best though. Maybe TGP 2 will stick. Hey who remembers a few years ago, when a few of us started this thing called New Age Link Lists? Didnt work out but sort of a similiar idea but with link lists.

08-12-2001, 02:11 PM	#12
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	TGP2 isn't going to make everyone money, but the ones who follow thru on it should clear a very nice profit, especially on the amount of bandwidth and content they will be investing. Hmmm, that sounds just like good avs setups and sponsor programs...

08-12-2001, 02:18 PM	#13
Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	But, once again, check what it does when the CJ business went to CJ2...the traffioc in that scene dropped like crazy....and they are now makingless money then before. Hope it won't do that to TGP2 tought.

08-12-2001, 02:26 PM	#14
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	TGP2 is, or should be, always geared to lower traffic -- any time you have a shot at quality the quantity goes down drastically -- think of: 1. avs traffic (which is like gold if you know how to market from inside your avs site) or 2. search engine traffic (hell people with fewer than 10k hits a day can sometimes throw around a hundred joins a day if they have good templates from the marketing standpoint) or 3. mailer traffic (converts like a house on fire, day in, day out and you can tell who plays with their numbers if you understand the spots you have) or 4. type-in traffic (these guys know exactly what they are looking for when they type it in). Each of these methods is based upon the fact that you've got surfers who are targetted, not just looking for FREE but actually looking for PORN. Most of the se people that I know don't want anything to do with the word free in their keywords unless they are throwing trash traffic at a 4free type program (who in turn is using a mailer system among other things to generate money) -- Bottom line is that each webmaster has to decide what kind of traffic to go after and design their marketing approach based on the demographic -- after all trying to sell shoes to someone shopping for soup isn't really going to do any good either...

08-12-2001, 03:42 PM	#15
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Right on da money KK Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]