Girls Gone Wild/Joe Francis - Untouchable? - GoFuckYourself.com

Xster · 10-13-2004, 01:50 AM

Is Joe Francis the king of all real video? He was once the production assistant on the syndicated show Real TV. Joe noticed that a lot of what came in was too violent or risque for television, and in this cache of forbidden footage he glimpsed a big opportunity.

He spliced the footage together and marketed it under the title Banned from Television. It did $10 million in sales in one year.

Making the leap from severed limbs to bare breasts wasn't that difficult. The idea for Girls Gone Wild, which occurred to him when he saw documentary footage of young women vamping topless at Mardi Gras, was to show what "Real!" girls can be persuaded to do for fun.

"These were just ordinary people. It was reality. I looked around the marketplace, and there was nothing like it," Francis says. "It's every guy's fantasy--that the girl really wants to do it, she just needs to be talked into it."ild Videos. Girls Gone Wild grossed over 100 million dollars in sales last year.
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Can anyone compete with this guy? Is he the Bill Gates of Excibitionist Party Girls?

Jeff aka NIGHTfall · 10-13-2004, 02:41 AM

he took something so simple and turned it into an assload of money.

it didnt even start out pornish, it will just tits, yet sold millions.

anyone ever think that its kinda weird how its a porn, that is advertised on alot of mainstream TV channels?

Realwild-Terry · 10-13-2004, 07:47 AM

Joe is brilliant and untouchable . It comes down to marketing , Even though his first few videos were mainly footage from gm video and AMX video and the quality was not good at all . He put it on late night tv next to stern and knocked it out in the hay day .
Dream girls was right up there with him running back to back commercials back in 2000 and that is what helped blow hem up as well .

Rochard · 10-13-2004, 07:52 AM

What this guy did was sell videos that weren't really porn, and sold them on TV to a market that doesn't usually by into porn.

Smart, or just really lucky?

jacked · 10-13-2004, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
Smart, or just really lucky?

a little bit of both

sweetcuties · 10-13-2004, 08:09 AM

Interesting... Will someone have the same success if they were to do it today? Not saying on his level, but a small slice of the pie. His look, marketing and who he hung out with (all perception) played a major part in his success

tony286 · 10-13-2004, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by sweetcuties
Interesting... Will someone have the same success if they were to do it today? Not saying on his level, but a small slice of the pie. His look, marketing and who he hung out with (all perception) played a major part in his success

Having a father who is rich doesnt hurt either.

xclusive · 10-13-2004, 08:30 AM

It's a lot easier in business if you have a rish parent to fall back on because then you can take all risk and not worry about failing and that is how you get lucky sometimes...

sweetcuties · 10-13-2004, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Having a father who is rich doesnt hurt either.

Wow, I never knew that. I always thought he was a regular guy

JustJen · 10-13-2004, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by sweetcuties
Wow, I never knew that. I always thought he was a regular guy

Yep he is very wealthy. Forget what he does though.

80smetal · 10-13-2004, 08:49 AM

NOONE is untouchable, get that through your head.

Raven · 10-13-2004, 09:01 AM

And, now they've got 'Guys Gone Wild'.

Quotealex · 10-13-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Raven
And, now they've got 'Guys Gone Wild'.

And when will we see Trannies Gone Wild?

Raven · 10-13-2004, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
And when will we see Trannies Gone Wild?

I'll let you know when they call me.

mardigras · 10-13-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
And when will we see Trannies Gone Wild?

Hang out on the corner of Bourbon and St. Ann streets on Fat Tuesday

xNetworx · 10-13-2004, 10:40 AM

That guy is one lucky S.O.B.

Lace · 10-13-2004, 10:45 AM

A mix of money, marketing skills, and luck.

The guy has it all now.

jade_dragon · 10-13-2004, 10:58 AM

I believe the lawyers of some of those girls as well as the DA have already started touching him.

When I was 19 I managed a movie store in Mandeville and one day a woman came in and asked if our DM who worked in the same store as I did had taken down volume 6. Just as she finished asking my DM calls me and tells me that a woman would be coming in today and just do as she asked.

I took the video down and asked nothing of it, I just thought maybe we were giving in to some religious group or something, the woman was really nice to me and very appreciative of me walking over and taking it down so I had no problem doing it.

10 minuits later my DM calls me back and tells me the woman was the mother of a local high school girl of 16 that was in the video. We had noticed a huge jump in the rental of the video as well as more than a few attempts by under aged boys but thought nothing of it.

Last I heard they were going after him about having minors on his jet and some coke. He beat one reportidly but they were still pushing on the other, I think he made the minors charge go away.

ProjectNaked · 10-13-2004, 11:28 AM

There was no luck involved. He found a niche and blew it wide open. He also had BALLS. He put "daddy's little girl" on national tv licking her best friends box. He had daughters of govenors, teachers, mothers, wives, etc... It didn't matter, if they looked good they were going on. As for marketing and money, they helped but he would have got it done without them because he believed in what he was doing.

TheGoldenChild · 10-13-2004, 11:35 AM

Joe isn't as lucky as some of you may think
he is rich, yes.

But he has had some BAD things happen to him on account of him being an asshole.

Pornkings · 10-13-2004, 11:37 AM

I think he stole the idea from Jim from DreamGirls.com?

I think he was doing this stuff before girls gone wild.

He is backed by Mandalay pictures so don't believe all the hype it takes big money to do what he does plus his partner is Jason Hervey from wonder years the blond older brother.

At least that?s what I hear.

Met the guy at a playboy party and was very arrogant maybe because I knew the girl he was with well

Manowar · 10-13-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
And when will we see Trannies Gone Wild?

when Juicy gets a new video cam

Realwild-Terry · 10-13-2004, 11:47 AM

I Having Real Wild Girls have major respect of the guy . He is like the grandfather of what we all do and has helped people like me make a dollar . if im not mistaken Joe has a degree in business and worked his ass off to get to this point . So lucky , Mabye - The guy is smart but has made some few bad judgments.

Dreamgirls and Him are the TOP dogs as far as this content goes and marketing it . Much respect to all ...

I bow down to Grandad Joe and Father Jim Faile

DavidVH · 10-13-2004, 12:09 PM

pretty awesome

BigWebRev · 10-13-2004, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by EpicJen
Yep he is very wealthy. Forget what he does though.

he sells drugs, also got busted for it.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 10-13-2004, 12:23 PM

How funny this came up, I saw him last night at Nicky Hilton's Clothing Line Launch Party. Paris didn't show up.

Seems like a cool guy.

BigWebRev · 10-13-2004, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
How funny this came up, I saw him last night at Nicky Hilton's Clothing Line Launch Party. Paris didn't show up.

Seems like a cool guy.

she was in another room sucking the COCK

Semi-Retired-Dave · 10-13-2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by BigWebRev
she was in another room sucking the COCK

You are bad. Or doing a Video shoot.

speakthetruth · 10-13-2004, 12:32 PM

Guy can not seem to keep himself out of trouble. One of these days it will catch up with him.

SetTheWorldonFire · 10-13-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by 80smetal
NOONE is untouchable, get that through your head.

yup, nobody is made of steel.

anyone can be taken down.

mahoney · 10-13-2004, 01:06 PM

This kicks the shit out of Joe and his Bull Shit softcore I dare you to disagree with me

www.phonesexwebcam.net/Movie.wmv

BV · 10-13-2004, 01:32 PM

He was definately not the first, but that doesen't matter.

He who dies with the most toys wins........

His first stuff was bought from others in the biz like Terry mentioned above. One of my old shooter friend was the guy who actually filmed some of the first Spring Break stuff.

This is some of the same footage:
http://gals.bikinivoyeur.com/wet-t-m...hp?affilid=213

Xster · 10-13-2004, 04:36 PM

Some of you guys say "noone is untouchable". Ok lets give it a try, shall we?..... Grab yourself a monster Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder for about $5000 (no biggy so far), pick a competitive name like Crazy Girls Flash! Now make a cool looking logo for Crazy GIrls Flash and have it Set on your microphone, so you appear "professional". Ok... Now try approching some girls and say something like this...."Hi, show us your tits and be on CRAZY FLASH GIRLS!".... They will take one look at you, one look at your Girls Gone Wild copy cat name and then the only thing they are going to show you is their middle finger. Girls Gone Wild is untouchable.

BV · 10-13-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Xster
Some of you guys say "noone is untouchable". Ok lets give it a try, shall we?..... Grab yourself a monster Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder for about $5000 (no biggy so far), pick a competitive name like Crazy Girls Flash! Now make a cool looking logo for Crazy GIrls Flash and have it Set on your microphone, so you appear "professional". Ok... Now try approching some girls and say something like this...."Hi, show us your tits and be on CRAZY FLASH GIRLS!".... They will take one look at you, one look at your Girls Gone Wild copy cat name and then the only thing they are going to show you is their middle finger. Girls Gone Wild is untouchable.

true, GGW has branded the niche mainstream with the help of TV, But chicks will flash GGW just as easy as any other Tom, Dick or Harry. You just have to have the know how.
Bet your sweet ass that GGW gets to see plenty of middle fingers too. lol

Xster · 10-13-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by BV
true, GGW has branded the niche mainstream with the help of TV, But chicks will flash GGW just as easy as any other Tom, Dick or Harry. You just have to have the know how.
Bet your sweet ass that GGW gets to see plenty of middle fingers too. lol

Hey I like your site Wett-shirt.tv! Nice job.
I think I use to lease feeds from BikiniVoyeur.com

BV · 10-13-2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Xster
Hey I like your site Wett-shirt.tv! Nice job.

Thanks Xster, I made it in PhotoShop & ImageReady and it converts very well, better than bikinivoyeur actually, today it's at 1:134. I presume because the traffic is more targetted.

Webby · 10-13-2004, 05:32 PM

Xster:

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Girls Gone Wild/Joe Francis - Untouchable?

Nobody born on this planet is "untouchable" - far more relevant folks than Francis have found this out, often to their disadantage

Tho.. the guy is good a marketing - no doubt! That often involves sticking your head outta the bunker on occasion. Many others have done the same in different fields, - it often works, and sometimes fails...

[illnet]-Jamie · 10-13-2004, 05:36 PM

very interesting thread .....

10-13-2004, 01:50 AM	#1
Xster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 577	Girls Gone Wild/Joe Francis - Untouchable? Is Joe Francis the king of all real video? He was once the production assistant on the syndicated show Real TV. Joe noticed that a lot of what came in was too violent or risque for television, and in this cache of forbidden footage he glimpsed a big opportunity. He spliced the footage together and marketed it under the title Banned from Television. It did $10 million in sales in one year. Making the leap from severed limbs to bare breasts wasn't that difficult. The idea for Girls Gone Wild, which occurred to him when he saw documentary footage of young women vamping topless at Mardi Gras, was to show what "Real!" girls can be persuaded to do for fun. "These were just ordinary people. It was reality. I looked around the marketplace, and there was nothing like it," Francis says. "It's every guy's fantasy--that the girl really wants to do it, she just needs to be talked into it."ild Videos. Girls Gone Wild grossed over 100 million dollars in sales last year. --------------------- Can anyone compete with this guy? Is he the Bill Gates of Excibitionist Party Girls?

10-13-2004, 02:41 AM	#2
Jeff aka NIGHTfall Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 5,162	he took something so simple and turned it into an assload of money. it didnt even start out pornish, it will just tits, yet sold millions. anyone ever think that its kinda weird how its a porn, that is advertised on alot of mainstream TV channels? __________________ Register Now For PimpinPays.com

10-13-2004, 07:47 AM	#3
Realwild-Terry Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MIAMI Posts: 856	Joe is brilliant and untouchable . It comes down to marketing , Even though his first few videos were mainly footage from gm video and AMX video and the quality was not good at all . He put it on late night tv next to stern and knocked it out in the hay day . Dream girls was right up there with him running back to back commercials back in 2000 and that is what helped blow hem up as well . __________________ Real Wild Feeds Over 30 All New Feeds from Real Wild Girls! + All new Content Blowouts From Our Summer Tour Footage.

10-13-2004, 07:52 AM	#4
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,059	What this guy did was sell videos that weren't really porn, and sold them on TV to a market that doesn't usually by into porn. Smart, or just really lucky? __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

10-13-2004, 08:09 AM	#6
sweetcuties Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 5,859	Interesting... Will someone have the same success if they were to do it today? Not saying on his level, but a small slice of the pie. His look, marketing and who he hung out with (all perception) played a major part in his success __________________

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80smetal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 505	NOONE is untouchable, get that through your head.

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10-13-2004, 10:40 AM	#16
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10-13-2004, 10:58 AM	#18
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	I believe the lawyers of some of those girls as well as the DA have already started touching him. When I was 19 I managed a movie store in Mandeville and one day a woman came in and asked if our DM who worked in the same store as I did had taken down volume 6. Just as she finished asking my DM calls me and tells me that a woman would be coming in today and just do as she asked. I took the video down and asked nothing of it, I just thought maybe we were giving in to some religious group or something, the woman was really nice to me and very appreciative of me walking over and taking it down so I had no problem doing it. 10 minuits later my DM calls me back and tells me the woman was the mother of a local high school girl of 16 that was in the video. We had noticed a huge jump in the rental of the video as well as more than a few attempts by under aged boys but thought nothing of it. Last I heard they were going after him about having minors on his jet and some coke. He beat one reportidly but they were still pushing on the other, I think he made the minors charge go away. __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

10-13-2004, 11:28 AM	#19
ProjectNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Areola Posts: 4,309	There was no luck involved. He found a niche and blew it wide open. He also had BALLS. He put "daddy's little girl" on national tv licking her best friends box. He had daughters of govenors, teachers, mothers, wives, etc... It didn't matter, if they looked good they were going on. As for marketing and money, they helped but he would have got it done without them because he believed in what he was doing.

10-13-2004, 11:35 AM	#20
TheGoldenChild Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pacific Palisades Posts: 6,940	Joe isn't as lucky as some of you may think he is rich, yes. But he has had some BAD things happen to him on account of him being an asshole. __________________

10-13-2004, 11:37 AM	#21
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	I think he stole the idea from Jim from DreamGirls.com? I think he was doing this stuff before girls gone wild. He is backed by Mandalay pictures so don't believe all the hype it takes big money to do what he does plus his partner is Jason Hervey from wonder years the blond older brother. At least that?s what I hear. Met the guy at a playboy party and was very arrogant maybe because I knew the girl he was with well __________________ Pornkings.com

10-13-2004, 11:47 AM	#23
Realwild-Terry Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MIAMI Posts: 856	I Having Real Wild Girls have major respect of the guy . He is like the grandfather of what we all do and has helped people like me make a dollar . if im not mistaken Joe has a degree in business and worked his ass off to get to this point . So lucky , Mabye - The guy is smart but has made some few bad judgments. Dreamgirls and Him are the TOP dogs as far as this content goes and marketing it . Much respect to all ... I bow down to Grandad Joe and Father Jim Faile __________________ Real Wild Feeds Over 30 All New Feeds from Real Wild Girls! + All new Content Blowouts From Our Summer Tour Footage. Last edited by Realwild-Terry; 10-13-2004 at 11:49 AM..

10-13-2004, 12:09 PM	#24
DavidVH Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 300	pretty awesome

10-13-2004, 12:23 PM	#26
Semi-Retired-Dave Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LA Posts: 11,190	How funny this came up, I saw him last night at Nicky Hilton's Clothing Line Launch Party. Paris didn't show up. Seems like a cool guy. __________________ Support a Good Cause

10-13-2004, 12:32 PM	#29
speakthetruth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 400	Guy can not seem to keep himself out of trouble. One of these days it will catch up with him.

10-13-2004, 01:06 PM	#31
mahoney Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Nv Posts: 5,318	This kicks the shit out of Joe and his Bull Shit softcore I dare you to disagree with me www.phonesexwebcam.net/Movie.wmv __________________ Vegassexparty.com

10-13-2004, 01:32 PM	#32
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	He was definately not the first, but that doesen't matter. He who dies with the most toys wins........ His first stuff was bought from others in the biz like Terry mentioned above. One of my old shooter friend was the guy who actually filmed some of the first Spring Break stuff. This is some of the same footage: http://gals.bikinivoyeur.com/wet-t-m...hp?affilid=213

10-13-2004, 04:36 PM	#33
Xster Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 577	Some of you guys say "noone is untouchable". Ok lets give it a try, shall we?..... Grab yourself a monster Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder for about $5000 (no biggy so far), pick a competitive name like Crazy Girls Flash! Now make a cool looking logo for Crazy GIrls Flash and have it Set on your microphone, so you appear "professional". Ok... Now try approching some girls and say something like this...."Hi, show us your tits and be on CRAZY FLASH GIRLS!".... They will take one look at you, one look at your Girls Gone Wild copy cat name and then the only thing they are going to show you is their middle finger. Girls Gone Wild is untouchable. Last edited by Xster; 10-13-2004 at 04:38 PM..

10-13-2004, 05:36 PM	#38
[illnet]-Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tampa Fl Posts: 667	very interesting thread .....