Religious fanatics win in Wisconsin! - GoFuckYourself.com

Joe Citizen · 11-06-2004, 08:52 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11....ap/index.html

GRANTSBURG, Wisconsin (AP) -- School officials have revised the science curriculum to allow the teaching of creationism, prompting an outcry from more than 300 educators who urged that the decision be reversed.

Will they also be teaching that the world is flat?

Who would have thought that we'd still be in the intellectual dark ages in the 21st century.

crockett · 11-06-2004, 08:58 PM

sad..

Dildozer · 11-06-2004, 09:00 PM

Idiots

Probono · 11-06-2004, 09:04 PM

Wait, soon the White House will introduce House Bill 666 which will require the teaching of 7 day creation as a requirement to receive federal education funding.

Welcome to jesusland

media · 11-06-2004, 09:12 PM

Creationism is stupid...

uno · 11-06-2004, 09:12 PM

Expect this trend to continue.

xclusive · 11-06-2004, 09:14 PM

This is just the start to a very bad next 4 years...

Fletch XXX · 11-06-2004, 09:15 PM

BURN CHURCHES

do not friend a christian.

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BlueDesignStudios · 11-06-2004, 09:20 PM

what? the world's not flat??

volante · 11-06-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
what? the world's not flat??

No, it's hollow.

BRISK · 11-06-2004, 10:50 PM

http://media.skoopy.com/misc/religious_people.mpg

volante · 11-06-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by broke
How horrid!

How dare voters in a county ALLOW teachers to teach creationism.

I wonder how they would feel about voting to teach the "Stork" method of reproduction?

tony286 · 11-06-2004, 10:51 PM

its so fucking crazy.

broke · 11-06-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by volante
I wonder how they would feel about voting to teach the "Stork" method of reproduction?

1. I did delete my post... it's not worth it.

2. The 'Stork' method -- not one I'd go with.

KRL · 11-06-2004, 11:03 PM

websiex · 11-06-2004, 11:04 PM

To be fair, some schools also teach Evolution. Evolution hasn't been proven to be 100% either. Creationism is just really stupid though, but also not 100% incorrect.

Both haven't been proven false, so maybe both should be taught to be fair.

volante · 11-06-2004, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by websiex
Both haven't been proven false, so maybe both should be taught to be fair.

Neither have been proven false, but evolution has evidence to support it. Creationism has none.

broke · 11-06-2004, 11:10 PM

Why do you care what the 1,394 people in GRANTSBURG (or the 15,674 people that live in Burnett County) do?

beergood · 11-06-2004, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Kerry won Wisconsin.

broke · 11-06-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by beergood
Kerry won Wisconsin.

But he didn't win Burnett County...

I'm just wondering how a town of less than 1,400 people in NW Wisconsin got on the 'international map'.

Well done -- GRANTSBURG.

Joe Citizen · 11-06-2004, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by broke
Why do you care what the 1,394 people in GRANTSBURG (or the 15,674 people that live in Burnett County) do?

I don't.

I'm just pointing it out so people can laugh at them.

Joe Citizen · 11-06-2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by websiex
To be fair, some schools also teach Evolution. Evolution hasn't been proven to be 100% either. Creationism is just really stupid though, but also not 100% incorrect.

Both haven't been proven false, so maybe both should be taught to be fair.

..says someone with clearly no knowledge of the subject at hand.

broke · 11-06-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
I don't.

I'm just pointing it out so people can laugh at them.

Fair enough.

Mr. Marks · 11-06-2004, 11:21 PM

Dark Ages or not, America still kicks Australia's ass technologically, financially, and socially.

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Citizen
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11....ap/index.html

GRANTSBURG, Wisconsin (AP) -- School officials have revised the science curriculum to allow the teaching of creationism, prompting an outcry from more than 300 educators who urged that the decision be reversed.

Will they also be teaching that the world is flat?

Who would have thought that we'd still be in the intellectual dark ages in the 21st century.

BRISK · 11-06-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Dark Ages or not, America still kicks Australia's ass technologically, financially, and socially.

socially?

Joe Citizen · 11-06-2004, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
socially?

Don't mind him.

He's just regurgitating propaganda.

Sarah_Jayne · 11-07-2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by broke
Why do you care what the 1,394 people in GRANTSBURG (or the 15,674 people that live in Burnett County) do?

because 1.394 more stupid people in the world isn't good for anyone

theking · 11-07-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11....ap/index.html

GRANTSBURG, Wisconsin (AP) -- School officials have revised the science curriculum to allow the teaching of creationism, prompting an outcry from more than 300 educators who urged that the decision be reversed.

Will they also be teaching that the world is flat?

Who would have thought that we'd still be in the intellectual dark ages in the 21st century.

Since there is no evidence to support abiogenesis...then a creator is just as viable as abiogenesis. It appears that one or the other is the cause of the origin of life.

Kel · 11-07-2004, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Don't mind him.

He's just regurgitating propaganda.

And so is your shit. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black..

Yay, you got under some peoples' skin... your goal is accomplished... now go masterbate and go to sleep

Joe Citizen · 11-07-2004, 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Since there is no evidence to support abiogenesis...then a creator is just as viable as abiogenesis. It appears that one or the other is the cause of the origin of life.

Science classrooms are a place for science education.

Religion has no place in a science classroom because it has no scientific basis.

BRISK · 11-07-2004, 05:48 AM

I don't have a problem with teaching kids that creationism is what some people believe. I do have a problem with teaching kids that creationism is a fact, and that all other possibilities are wrong.

I think there is value in kids (and adults) understanding why some people believe what they do.

Understanding your enemy is the first step to defeating them. So if you're a hardcore believer in evolution, there is still value in teaching your kids why these other people believe what they believe.

BRISK · 11-07-2004, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Science classrooms are a place for science education.

Religion has no place in a science classroom because it has no scientific basis.

I think that to study evolution, it would help to learn about what people believed before Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. The Origin of Species was only published 145 years ago, so giving students a background into people's ideas before then is part of a rounded education in my opinion.

We shouldn't hide the concept of creationism from people anymore than we should hide the concept of bloodletting or the belief that the earth is flat or that the sun revolves around the earth. As silly as those concepts sound today, it benefits us to know that this is what people used to think, and it benefits us to understand why they thought the way they did.

I don't think we should teach creationism as fact, but I do think people should be aware that creationism is what some people believe and give them some background on why they believe it.

Joe Citizen · 11-07-2004, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
I think that to study evolution, it would help to learn about what people believed before Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. The Origin of Species was only published 145 years ago, so giving students a background into people's ideas before then is part of a rounded education in my opinion.

We shouldn't hide the concept of creationism from people anymore than we should hide the concept of bloodletting or the belief that the earth is flat or that the sun revolves around the earth. As silly as those concepts sound today, it benefits us to know that this is what people used to think, and it benefits us to understand why they thought the way they did.

I don't think we should teach creationism as fact, but I do think people should be aware that creationism is what some people believe and give them some background on why they believe it.

If you are talking about a passing mention... by all means. As long as you mention ALL the different creation stories.

But seriously, giving equal time to creationism in a biology class is like giving equal time to witchdoctoring at medical school.

It's fucking ludicrous.

Manowar · 11-07-2004, 06:08 AM

God damn, thats wrong. Teaching kids lies.

Kel · 11-07-2004, 06:12 AM

Joe = other sig = other sig = other sig.

Well done you Joe. You ruffled a few feathers with another anti-american post (be it right or wrong). Mission accomplished. Now go to bed.

BRISK · 11-07-2004, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
If you are talking about a passing mention... by all means. As long as you mention ALL the different creation stories.

But seriously, giving equal time to creationism in a biology class is like giving equal time to witchdoctoring at medical school.

It's fucking ludicrous.

Personally, I think creationism has more in common with a history class than a science class, but I also think a lesson on evolution would be incomplete if it didn't discuss what people believed before the idea of evolution existed.

BRISK · 11-07-2004, 06:24 AM

I also think that religious schools that disagree with evolution should still teach kids about evolution.

Assuming their goal is to disprove evolution, the best way of doing that is to fully understand why people believe in evolution.

Knowledge about your enemy is the best way to defeat them.

theking · 11-07-2004, 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Science classrooms are a place for science education.

Religion has no place in a science classroom because it has no scientific basis.

Niether does abiogenesis have a scientific basis...thus the concept of a creator has just as much scientific basis as abiogenesis. One or the other is apparently the origin of life. The concept of a creator...does not a religion make.

Tala · 11-07-2004, 06:38 AM

....am I the only person here who is hearing "Fuck The Creationists" in the back of our collective minds?

Jakke PNG · 11-07-2004, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Kel
Joe = other sig = other sig = other sig.

Well done you Joe. You ruffled a few feathers with another anti-american post (be it right or wrong). Mission accomplished. Now go to bed.

What fucking anti-american post? God was American when he created the world?

Juggernaut · 11-07-2004, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Dark Ages or not, America still kicks Australia's ass technologically, financially, and socially.

You might want to rethink the "technologically, financially, and socially" thoughts you have.

You're mistaken.

Here are some Australian firsts:

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Democratic Firsts:

First place in the world to have a secret ballot in elections (1856)
First Place in the world to give women the vote. (1894)

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Legal Firsts:

Torrens Title. An Australian invented the worlds first method of land registration. Now in use by many countries around the world.

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Sporting Firsts:

First country in the world to beat America in it America's cup.
Only country to have attended every modern Olympic games.
The first country to employ skiing as a sport. (1863)
The Australian crawl. Until the 1890's competetive freestyle was done with the head out of the water. (Remember how Tarzan used to swim in the movies?) Australian Dick Cavill popularised it and enabled it to be accepted in world class meetings.

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Inventions:

The bionic ear, a device that enables some deaf children to hear.
Flexible wine casks... the bag in the box.
The boomerang. Ancient weapon of the aboriginies. Other cultures have throwing sticks but none came back to the thrower if it missed the target.
The Notepad. In the whole history of paper, it had been sold and used in single sheets until in 1902 JA Birchall thought it would be a good idea to stack a pile of half sheets together, back it with cardboard and glue one end.
Making the world's first notepad.
The Electric Drill was the invention of Arthur James Arnot, who patented it in 1889.
Postage stamps. The world's first pre paid postage system was introduced at Sydney in 1838.
The world's first refrigeration plant was an Australian invention of 1858.
To our collective shame, the worlds first bathing beauty contest was held in Australia in 1920.
The famous "black box" flight recorder for recording aeroplane movements was invented in Australia in 1958.
Also in 1958 the worlds first regular 'round the world' airline service was begun.
The inflatable aircraft escape slide, which becomes a raft if the aeroplane ditches in water was an Australian invention of 1965.
The Automatic letter sorting machine - 1930
Two stroke lawn mower.
The rotary hoist washing line.
Lithium as a treatment for manic depression.
Latex gloves 1945
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BRISK · 11-07-2004, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut
Here are some Australian firsts:

First Place in the world to give women the vote. (1894)

You sure about that?

Juggernaut · 11-07-2004, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
You sure about that?

This is a much debated topic. I know that "Colorado was the first state to adopt an amendment granting women the right to vote." This was around 1893-1894.

Not too sure, there are claims that Wyoming territory had a voting system in place for women earlier, I have only ever seen some English BBC timeline about it.

You can have it if you want

Jakke PNG · 11-07-2004, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut

Only country to have attended every modern Olympic games.

Don't they get in by default, being that all continents should be represented?

BRISK · 11-07-2004, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut
Here are some Australian firsts:

The first country to employ skiing as a sport. (1863)

Do you have a source for this fact? Because I would have said Norway claims that.

sacX · 11-07-2004, 07:26 AM

New Zealand was the first country to give women the vote.

sacX · 11-07-2004, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Dark Ages or not, America still kicks Australia's ass technologically, financially, and socially.

I've never seen a study where US comes out highly in a quality of life study.. Perhaps you can find one.

quality of life

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I don't have a problem with teaching kids that creationism is what some people believe. I do have a problem with teaching kids that creationism is a fact, and that all other possibilities are wrong. I think there is value in kids (and adults) understanding why some people believe what they do. Understanding your enemy is the first step to defeating them. So if you're a hardcore believer in evolution, there is still value in teaching your kids why these other people believe what they believe. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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