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DarkJedi · 09-15-2001, 12:49 PM

Maybe US&Co should move in the troops, take Afganistan, Iraq, Palestina etc. Kill all terrorists and set up democracy there ? (I dont think rabian women actualy enjoy wearing iron masks)

??? Just occupie these countries without nuking em ? That way innocent ppl won't die.

Amputate Your Head · 09-15-2001, 01:21 PM

Foreign occupation is in alot of ways worse than bombing. If we occupy, then we have to forever maintain the freakin' peace. That means alot of resources and manpower and expense, and ultimately only generates more hatred towards us for being somewhere we shouldn't be. There would be countless attacks on our people over there doing nothing more than trying to maintain a level of civility.

Bomb the fuck out of them and get it over with.

Lane · 09-15-2001, 01:47 PM

Bomb them because this will stop all the terorism in the whole world and especially in the USA. Plus, manpower and money is more valuable than peace and peoples lives. So why spend it on something useless?

DarkJedi · 09-15-2001, 02:02 PM

Bomb them ? Well, there ARE some innocent people there. I but think Safety of the Whole World overweights it.

Lane · 09-15-2001, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi:
Bomb them ? Well, there ARE some innocent people there. I but think Safety of the Whole World overweights it.

you mean the world is gonna be safe, or safer when we bomb them and kill innocent people.

and i hope you understood my sarcasm on the other post.

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DarkJedi · 09-15-2001, 02:23 PM

i didnt

Mango · 09-15-2001, 04:15 PM

Hi guys,

I've read some of your opinions and comments on this, also in other topics.

I'm just a citizen like most of you are, but I have my own, slightly different opinions about this; maybe because I live in Belgium, Europe, and am closer to the countries involved.
I've been speaking with some of the guys who used to live in countries like Iran etc; they know the muslim world better than we do. Sure, this has been a crime, and no punishment is good enough. But keep in mind that, when attacking those terrorist groups, they could burn us down as well.

There are some things that you have to keep in mind :

- Americans and Europeans have far more chances in a war situation. But you fight against people that don't care about their life... let a trained American jet fighter fight against a poorly trained radical islam fighter - the US guy will care about his life, his children and be careful. The other won't at all because when he wins, he goes to their god. So who will fight it the hardest way and take all risks he can ?

- Let one of those terrorists alive (we won't catch them all... never...), and they could do those things again, and make new allies with other groups...

- The whole neighborhoud is full of muslim countries or governments. Make one wrong move and you have a hell of a lot more opponents.

- Countries like Pakistan are nuclear powers. They are on our side, but once again, if we make one wrong move...

- China and Russia are very close to that area. One wrong move...

Don't understand that I'm against attacks or so... I just want you all to be careful - they could mean a lot of trouble if they'd want...

Just my 2c...

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Amputate Your Head · 09-15-2001, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mango:
let a trained American jet fighter fight against a poorly trained radical islam fighter - the US guy will care about his life, his children and be careful. The other won't at all because when he wins, he goes to their god. So who will fight it the hardest way and take all risks he can ?

There may be some people in the military with this attitude, but the majority of trained soldiers, when dropped into a war situation, fight with every last ounce of their being. Nothing less is tolerated.

For all their talk about "Allah is great" nonsense, the Iraqi soldiers for the most part, gave up without any fight whatsoever. US soldiers will not EVER give up. It's written right into the military code. Surrender is not an option. Ever.

Caring about life and living is not a weakness. This is what terrorists believe.

It's a strength.

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Gary · 09-15-2001, 04:34 PM

Well iraqi soldiers gave up because they knew the US would give them a hotel room, food, medical then bring them back to the states, make them citizens, give them cars, homes jobs. etc.

Where do you think these terrorists came from?

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Amputate Your Head · 09-15-2001, 04:35 PM

Touche. (no, I'm not french)

playa · 09-15-2001, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
Well iraqi soldiers gave up because they knew the US would give them a hotel room, food, medical then bring them back to the states, make them citizens, give them cars, homes jobs. etc.

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playa · 09-15-2001, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary:
Well iraqi soldiers gave up because they knew the US would give them a hotel room, food, medical then bring them back to the states, make them citizens, give them cars, homes jobs. etc.

this is exactly what will happen again,,,
prior to the US attack with ground troops,,
they will send out millions of flyers,,,
and in it will say give up and we will take of you,,,

I predict another PANAMA like invasion when they got Manuel Noreaga,,,,Get in and get out... But the problem is that from now on there will be more US forces overseas now,,,

its gonna be the COLD WAR all over again

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Big Ben · 09-15-2001, 04:53 PM

Afghanistan is not Iraq. Period. You think that russians would have messed with them 10 years and eventualy retreat their forces if they were easy?

playa · 09-15-2001, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Big Ben:
Afghanistan is not Iraq. Period. You think that russians would have messed with them 10 years and eventualy retreat their forces if they were easy?

You know why? because the US was training them and supplying them with weapons,,,

War is differnt now,,,
technology is a muthafucka

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Big Ben · 09-15-2001, 05:09 PM

US is one of the reasons yes. Us didn't want too see Russians win in that war the same way the Russians didn't wanted to see US win in Vietnam. But still that war only proved that a knockout is not possible in a mountain terrain like was possible in kuwait.

playa · 09-15-2001, 05:17 PM

Trust an ex army veteran,,,

our sophisticated equipment is overwelming

though it might not be as easy in a mountain enviroment but still effective

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Amputate Your Head · 09-15-2001, 05:23 PM

Effective is an understatement playa.

SR · 09-15-2001, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi:
Bomb them ? Well, there ARE some innocent people there. I but think Safety of the Whole World overweights it.

Amen to that.

Some people keep saying war is bad and it is not the solution.
In every war there die innocent people.
During the gulfwar there died innocent people but should we have let Sadam just continue using his horrible weapons against innocents?
In Yugoslavia there where innocent people killed but should we have let Millosivic continue killing 1000's of innocent people?

This whole terrorism is mostly because the USA and most of the western countries support the Israelish.
Should we let the Palestinians, the Irakish etc. continue what Hitler couldn't finish?

You can't negotiate with terrorists.
These people are brainwashed and will die for what they believe in.
Nothing more dangerous then that.

During a war againsts terrorism there will die innocents but like DarkJedi said. It will overweight it if this results in a safer world.

09-15-2001, 12:49 PM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	OK HERES THE SOLLUTION Maybe US&Co should move in the troops, take Afganistan, Iraq, Palestina etc. Kill all terrorists and set up democracy there ? (I dont think rabian women actualy enjoy wearing iron masks) ??? Just occupie these countries without nuking em ? That way innocent ppl won't die.

09-15-2001, 01:21 PM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Foreign occupation is in alot of ways worse than bombing. If we occupy, then we have to forever maintain the freakin' peace. That means alot of resources and manpower and expense, and ultimately only generates more hatred towards us for being somewhere we shouldn't be. There would be countless attacks on our people over there doing nothing more than trying to maintain a level of civility. Bomb the fuck out of them and get it over with.

09-15-2001, 01:47 PM	#3
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	Bomb them because this will stop all the terorism in the whole world and especially in the USA. Plus, manpower and money is more valuable than peace and peoples lives. So why spend it on something useless?

09-15-2001, 02:02 PM	#4
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Bomb them ? Well, there ARE some innocent people there. I but think Safety of the Whole World overweights it.

09-15-2001, 02:23 PM	#6
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i didnt

09-15-2001, 04:15 PM	#7
Mango Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 474	Hi guys, I've read some of your opinions and comments on this, also in other topics. I'm just a citizen like most of you are, but I have my own, slightly different opinions about this; maybe because I live in Belgium, Europe, and am closer to the countries involved. I've been speaking with some of the guys who used to live in countries like Iran etc; they know the muslim world better than we do. Sure, this has been a crime, and no punishment is good enough. But keep in mind that, when attacking those terrorist groups, they could burn us down as well. There are some things that you have to keep in mind : - Americans and Europeans have far more chances in a war situation. But you fight against people that don't care about their life... let a trained American jet fighter fight against a poorly trained radical islam fighter - the US guy will care about his life, his children and be careful. The other won't at all because when he wins, he goes to their god. So who will fight it the hardest way and take all risks he can ? - Let one of those terrorists alive (we won't catch them all... never...), and they could do those things again, and make new allies with other groups... - The whole neighborhoud is full of muslim countries or governments. Make one wrong move and you have a hell of a lot more opponents. - Countries like Pakistan are nuclear powers. They are on our side, but once again, if we make one wrong move... - China and Russia are very close to that area. One wrong move... Don't understand that I'm against attacks or so... I just want you all to be careful - they could mean a lot of trouble if they'd want... Just my 2c... ------------------ http://www.sponsorreport.com - Maximize your Cash using the Smart Method ! >>> Giving away a FREE RIO 128 MP3 player during August <<<

09-15-2001, 04:34 PM	#9
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Well iraqi soldiers gave up because they knew the US would give them a hotel room, food, medical then bring them back to the states, make them citizens, give them cars, homes jobs. etc. Where do you think these terrorists came from? ------------------ Make awesome recurring cash with personal ads Sexy Ads

09-15-2001, 04:35 PM	#10
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Touche. (no, I'm not french)

09-15-2001, 04:53 PM	#13
Big Ben Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 62	Afghanistan is not Iraq. Period. You think that russians would have messed with them 10 years and eventualy retreat their forces if they were easy?

09-15-2001, 05:09 PM	#15
Big Ben Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 62	US is one of the reasons yes. Us didn't want too see Russians win in that war the same way the Russians didn't wanted to see US win in Vietnam. But still that war only proved that a knockout is not possible in a mountain terrain like was possible in kuwait.

09-15-2001, 05:17 PM	#16
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	Trust an ex army veteran,,, our sophisticated equipment is overwelming though it might not be as easy in a mountain enviroment but still effective ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 I ain't no NEWBIE www.NoBSdialer.com

09-15-2001, 05:23 PM	#17
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Effective is an understatement playa.