Selling weed: 55 years in prison - GoFuckYourself.com

Libertine · 11-17-2004, 03:56 AM

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In a case that has spurred intense soul-searching in legal circles, a 25-year-old convicted drug dealer, who was arrested two years ago for selling small bags of marijuana to a police informant, was sentenced on Tuesday to 55 years in prison.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/17/na...encing.html?th

What the judge had to say on it:

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Judge Cassell said that sentencing Mr. Angelos to prison until he is 70 years old was "unjust, cruel and even irrational," but that the law that forced him to do so had not proved to be unconstitutional and thus had to stand. The sentence was all the more ironic, he said, because only two hours earlier he had been legally able to impose a sentence of 22 years on a man convicted of aggravated second-degree murder for beating an elderly woman to death with a log. That crime, he argued, was far more serious.

Roald · 11-17-2004, 03:57 AM

thats just plain stupid

tgpmakers · 11-17-2004, 03:58 AM

INSANE

Joe Citizen · 11-17-2004, 04:01 AM

...and justice for all.

NOT!

nofx · 11-17-2004, 04:02 AM

totally fucking insane. doesnt say how much weed he was selling but they described it as "small bags" so it couldnt of been that bad.

i feel so bad for this guy.

http · 11-17-2004, 04:03 AM

He'll be 80 years old (25 + 55), not 70

BRISK · 11-17-2004, 04:04 AM

Marijuana should be legal to grow, sell, and consume.

SpikeHeel · 11-17-2004, 04:05 AM

well, that's how things go.

sacX · 11-17-2004, 04:05 AM

"Prosecutor Robert Lunt said Angelos has been suspected of drug trafficking and money laundering for years and got what he deserved"

:/

xclusive · 11-17-2004, 04:06 AM

This great country is going to shit...

Yngwie · 11-17-2004, 04:10 AM

shows you just how the legal system works.. oh yes, we need it to protect us.. riiiiiiiiight! rapists and child molesters get way less time then that yet people say the legal system works?

to the legal system

theking · 11-17-2004, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
...and justice for all.

NOT!

Unless laws have changed...in a few States one can get mandantory life in prison.

Matt 26z · 11-17-2004, 04:19 AM

I always believe in cases like this that the accused has probably done more in the past than what he could be tried for due to a lack of evidence. So they nail such people as hard as they can on any other charges they can think up.

It could be that he's killed in the past and no real evidence exists, so this was just the makeup case for those.

Joe Citizen · 11-17-2004, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Unless laws have changed...in a few States one can get mandantory life in prison.

Sad.

tigerw · 11-17-2004, 04:20 AM

tahnk god for the apeal

Mefo · 11-17-2004, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Marijuana should be legal to grow, sell, and consume.

it is

Fake Nick · 11-17-2004, 05:00 AM

yup america land of the free, yet you are not free to do the some simple things like smoking some herb

blazin · 11-17-2004, 05:27 AM

Truly fucked up

$5 submissions · 11-17-2004, 05:30 AM

Stare Decisis can sometimes SUCK on the trial court level. Next stop: Argue "cruel and unusual punishment" at the appelate level or try an Equal Protection argument (not easy)

etech · 11-17-2004, 05:35 AM

Some guy in Denmark got 6 month in prison for selling over 80kg hash/marijuana

groark · 11-17-2004, 05:35 AM

Legalize it

SR · 11-17-2004, 05:53 AM

God blesh America.
And America judges human rights in other countries?

hova · 11-17-2004, 05:58 AM

un-fucking-believable, you dont even get 55 years if you rape, kill and eat 55 little children here

Fake Nick · 11-17-2004, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by hova
un-fucking-believable, you dont even get 55 years if you rape, kill and eat 55 little children here

garett · 11-17-2004, 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by Matt 26z
I always believe in cases like this that the accused has probably done more in the past than what he could be tried for due to a lack of evidence. So they nail such people as hard as they can on any other charges they can think up.

It could be that he's killed in the past and no real evidence exists, so this was just the makeup case for those.

If no "real evidence" exists then no one has any right to even accuse him of those crimes.

It sickens me how blood thirsty people are. Of course if someone commits a horrible crime they need to be punished .. but it is the responsibility of prosecutors to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" that the accused commited a crime.

So even if he's suspected of murder the proesecutors and judges have absolutely no right even concerning themselves with those crimes until the police can produce "real evidence" to prosecute him with.

55 years for marijuana traffic is sick. And a judge that sentences a kid to jail until he's 80 is just as bad as murdering the kid imo.

Alex From San Diego · 11-17-2004, 06:26 AM

Leeson here: Pretty simple. Don't sell drugs and your ass will never go to prison. I feel nothing for this loser. Should have learned his lesson the first time. Some people were just born dumb.

11-17-2004, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Leeson here: Pretty simple. Don't sell drugs and your ass will never go to prison. I feel nothing for this loser. Should have learned his lesson the first time. Some people were just born dumb.

I'm pretty sure this was the first time. I think he was caught 2 years ago and it took this long for sentencing.

Fake Nick · 11-17-2004, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Leeson here: Pretty simple. Don't sell drugs and your ass will never go to prison. I feel nothing for this loser. Should have learned his lesson the first time. Some people were just born dumb.

ha , the question here is not wether he should sentenced or not , but wether this guy has right to a FAIR sentencing or not

webmaster x · 11-17-2004, 06:57 AM

55 years? that's what you call justice. yay.

mardigras · 11-17-2004, 07:01 AM

He should have killed someone when he was caught... reduced his sentence...

pornstarmediaguy · 11-17-2004, 07:01 AM

dude that's bogus, up here in canada if the cops catch you with a joint, they just tell you to butt it out, they are also going for decriminalization of weed so basically they'll just write you a fucking ticket if you exceed a certain amount of grams....terrorists are killing people, chopping of their heads and they are pinching some dude over weed.....totally fucked!!!

Lykos · 11-17-2004, 07:04 AM

damn,that's not normal

EddiePulp · 11-17-2004, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Marijuana should be legal to grow, sell, and consume.

Tell that to the asians...

Aussie student is in Bali, for being 'setup' with 4.2kg of weed in her unlocked body board bag...

She faces death penality if found guilty... or life imprisonment and a $AU150,000 fine.

Paul Markham · 11-17-2004, 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by Matt 26z
I always believe in cases like this that the accused has probably done more in the past than what he could be tried for due to a lack of evidence. So they nail such people as hard as they can on any other charges they can think up.

It could be that he's killed in the past and no real evidence exists, so this was just the makeup case for those.

There you go, justice.

He had not been convicted of these crimes but it's fine to sentence him for them. Why even bother with courts if that's the system you prefer.

Wonderful coming from a pornographer who might get sent to prison for 5 years, just for getting his paperwork wrong.

Libertine · 11-17-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Leeson here: Pretty simple. Don't sell drugs and your ass will never go to prison. I feel nothing for this loser. Should have learned his lesson the first time. Some people were just born dumb.

Yup, some people are just born dumb. Like the ones who will gladly pay millions to keep people who sell something as harmless as weed in prisons.

Veterans Day · 11-17-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Leeson here: Pretty simple. Don't sell drugs and your ass will never go to prison. I feel nothing for this loser. Should have learned his lesson the first time. Some people were just born dumb.

TurboTrucker · 11-17-2004, 04:11 PM

Your honor - he had plants. PLANTS!! This madman must be put away!

xlogger · 11-17-2004, 04:12 PM

fuck!! shit then my dealer should get death row..

kenny · 11-17-2004, 04:15 PM

They are going to have to change the way they do things.. we just can't keep building more and more prisons.

The US puts more people in prison on average then any other place in the world.

TheMob · 11-17-2004, 04:15 PM

America, I just love it.

goBigtime · 11-17-2004, 04:19 PM

And sadly none of us will do anything about it other than sit here and talk shit about how the system is broken - right?

woj · 11-17-2004, 04:23 PM

only in the US....

goBigtime · 11-17-2004, 04:23 PM

BTW.... you only told us half the story... he also had a gun

But then again, he does have a right to bear arms. Err... doesn't he?

http://www.harktheherald.com/modules...rder=0&thold=0

Ironhorse · 11-17-2004, 04:24 PM

Oh yeah, but it's all part of the War on Terror ... oops War on Drugs .. sorry wrong national threat .. those pesky reefers cause pacifism which interferes with our global initiative

jules4u · 11-17-2004, 04:24 PM

stupid

Veterans Day · 11-17-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
BTW.... you only told us half the story... he also had a gun

But then again, he does have a right to bear arms. Err... doesn't he?

concealed firearm, with a controlled substance? If so

Ironhorse · 11-17-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
And sadly none of us will do anything about it other than sit here and talk shit about how the system is broken - right?

You have to start somewhere..

goBigtime · 11-17-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
concealed firearm, with a controlled substance? If so

Well... he said he never took it out of the house and apparently they couldn't prove otherwise?

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Before trial, Angelos was offered a plea bargain with a 16-year sentence, but he strongly denied carrying a gun outside his home during three alleged drug transactions. That testimony came from an informant "of some disreputable background," Mooney said.

A jury exonerated Angelos of two other gun charges but convicted him of twice wearing a gun in an ankle holster and once carrying it in a briefcase. Angelos maintained the guns never left his home, where he kept them in a safe.

Icon · 11-17-2004, 04:28 PM

Move to Canada. We don't suck balls. (often)

Veterans Day · 11-17-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Well... he said he never took it out of the house and apparently they couldn't prove otherwise?

drug dealers with guns locked in a safe?

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