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Old 11-19-2004, 01:05 PM   #1
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So we decided to monitor CCBILLs every single move... [results]

Ok, recently CCBILL had some reporting issues for quite some hours .. without telling a soul about it... that pisses me off..

Another thread popped up that night with other affiliates missing sales - so it was quite obvious that something was wrong. CCBILL began investigating and after a few hours the "You've refered a sale" emails was coming to people like snow christmas eve.

During this error we decided to make a script ourselves that was able to monitor every single sale we send as affiliates... and all I can say is that since that night our script and our stats at CCBILL have been matching 100%

And I've too noticed that CCBILL now use their news system to tell both site owners and affiates about upcoming maintenance and shit

I like it!
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:06 PM   #2
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I never had any doubt....When my sales are off it's either because it's my own fault, or the surfers don't like a particular girl on my site. I never thought about blaming my processor for shit like that.
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:19 PM   #3
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CCBill will be the last company standing in this biz. Trust me - they will even pay for your Döner Kebab at 6 am.

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Old 11-19-2004, 02:00 PM   #4
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thanks for posting that, obviously you have your eye on us ;)
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:21 PM   #5
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Sounds like you wasted your time to me, your suspicious nature is costing you money.

Maybe it's time that you admit that? Or who will you accuse next of being dishonest? your surfers? your sponsors? your hosts? your partners? your friends? your family?

CCbill is an honest company, now and always. Maybe next time you'll listen to people who are trying to help you understand how everything works?


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Old 11-19-2004, 02:29 PM   #6
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I have been with ccbill for over 6 years. and I have never had an issue with them. They always seem to make thing go the right way.


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Old 11-19-2004, 02:30 PM   #8
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thanks for posting that, obviously you have your eye on us ;)
at that time my eyes were more like:

because of too much

but I have to say you guys are

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Old 11-19-2004, 02:31 PM   #9
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Sounds like you wasted your time to me, your suspicious nature is costing you money.

Maybe it's time that you admit that? Or who will you accuse next of being dishonest? your surfers? your sponsors? your hosts? your partners? your friends? your family?

CCbill is an honest company, now and always. Maybe next time you'll listen to people who are trying to help you understand how everything works?


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never a truer word spoken.. I've known CCBill for years and worked with them many times and definitely trustworthy people that can be trusted.
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:32 PM   #10
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they have no reason to skim the signups cause they make money eithor way, not to mention the legal issues
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Good for you biskoppen & glad it all matches! It's good to hear that everything is ironed out & the mailing/reporting is now synched.

Maybe I'm missing a part here, but I think it's more of a double tracking method, kind of like most bigger programs track their hits/sales before sending to the processor. If he can track his stuff better from his end, it will save calculation time + alert to any discrepancies in the long run well then I see that as 2 for me.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:34 PM   #12
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Sounds like you wasted your time to me, your suspicious nature is costing you money.

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Steve, I'm afraid you got this all wrong. We actually got CCBILL to double check things a couple of times this time - and THEY DID found a big reporting error which had resulted in 12 hours of sales not being shared with the affiliates. The bug were fixed and our stats showed "a good amount" more. Actually tons of affiliates made alot of money that night.

So no, I didn't waste my time.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:36 PM   #13
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I never had any doubt....When my sales are off it's either because it's my own fault, or the surfers don't like a particular girl on my site. I never thought about blaming my processor for shit like that.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:37 PM   #14
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Steve, I'm afraid you got this all wrong. We actually got CCBILL to double check things a couple of times this time - and THEY DID found a big reporting error which had resulted in 12 hours of sales not being shared with the affiliates. The bug were fixed and our stats showed "a good amount" more. Actually tons of affiliates made alot of money that night.

So no, I didn't waste my time.
Bravo man, thanks for watching our back and having the hard data to show ccbill that something did go wrong. They may have found it on their own, but anytime it can be speed up and advert a panic is appreciated.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:37 PM   #15
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they have no reason to skim the signups cause they make money eithor way, not to mention the legal issues
All the sales were there, no skimming. The bug was that the affiliate who sent the sales wasn't credited.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:39 PM   #16
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I got flooded that night with my signups... I still don't think they count my clicks correctly though.. But as long as I get paid, I won't bitch anymore.
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there was a reason why ccbill was our first choice..
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:02 PM   #18
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there was a reason why ccbill was our first choice..
We use them for our paysites too.. they have all the features we want..

We did look for alternatives, but they did all miss something in their system... like the feature of showing which link sent the sale which is one of the most important ones
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Sounds like you wasted your time to me, your suspicious nature is costing you money.

Maybe it's time that you admit that? Or who will you accuse next of being dishonest? your surfers? your sponsors? your hosts? your partners? your friends? your family?

CCbill is an honest company, now and always. Maybe next time you'll listen to people who are trying to help you understand how everything works?


In the words of Ronald Regan, "Trust, buy verify".

Regardless of how honest or compentent a company is, its foolish not to watch them when they're as integral to your business as a billing company is.

All of the big three billing companies have flaws, or perhaps quirks, is a better term in their reporting and password management. Understanding those quirks is hardly a waste of time.
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Steve, I'm afraid you got this all wrong. We actually got CCBILL to double check things a couple of times this time - and THEY DID found a big reporting error which had resulted in 12 hours of sales not being shared with the affiliates. The bug were fixed and our stats showed "a good amount" more. Actually tons of affiliates made alot of money that night.

So no, I didn't waste my time.

Nice work biskoppen I think lightspeed shooting off at the mouth a bit without actually knowing exactly what you did to uncover the ccbill errors and help not only them, but the rest of us
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Thanks for the info Having blind faith in ANY company is both stupid and naive.
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In the words of Ronald Regan, "Trust, buy verify".

Regardless of how honest or compentent a company is, its foolish not to watch them when they're as integral to your business as a billing company is.

All of the big three billing companies have flaws, or perhaps quirks, is a better term in their reporting and password management. Understanding those quirks is hardly a waste of time.

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[IMG]All of the big three billing companies have flaws, or perhaps quirks, is a better term in their reporting and password management.
3? epoch, ccbill and?
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Nice, did you make them rebill ?
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Every DAMN week like clockwork!
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no unfortunately i ran out of Viagra
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something weird is going on with ccbill
anyone have an ICQ contact for someone there
their phone support never helps, "just submit a bug report"
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I will be in the office for 15 more minutes if you'd like to contact me. Otherwise, feel free to contact [email protected] and I'm sure they will be able to assist.
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CCbill is a great company no doubt, but you are a fool to listen to anyone but yourself when it comes to verifing YOUR money.

If eeople blindly agree and dont look into things, thats when things happen. Even if it was not the fault of anyone. CCBill would never rip anyone off... why would they at this point. However, I would NEVER take someones word from the boards or anywhere else when it came to issues like this.

Dont accuse without the info, but dont be a fool and not do yoru own research.
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You are like a postbot in every thread that is about CCBILL...
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CCbill is a great company no doubt, but you are a fool to listen to anyone but yourself when it comes to verifing YOUR money.

If eeople blindly agree and dont look into things, thats when things happen. Even if it was not the fault of anyone. CCBill would never rip anyone off... why would they at this point. However, I would NEVER take someones word from the boards or anywhere else when it came to issues like this.

Dont accuse without the info, but dont be a fool and not do yoru own research.
Well spoken!
I'd say that you hit the nail's head with that one... Cause that is exactly what this thread is all about... ( No DRAMA, just biz )

And let me just add in general for this thread: I dont give a shit about how cool or un-cool CCBILL is... It's MY money they are handling, and I'm watching them - otherwise I'd be a fool!

I would NEVER say that they are skimming/shaving or whatever ( that would'nt make sence, SO get over it and listen to what people say here )... But if there is a flaw in their system, then they need to know... And if they refuse to listen, then the heat has to be turned up... Simple as that, and it has paid of before, and it will pay off again - and that's the truth!
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