So GalleryGuy hits me up on ICQ, says I stole his design - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 11-29-2004, 06:30 PM

I ask him what he is talking about and it appears I am using a design on his for modelflats.com on one of my tgp's...

He demands $100 and I am like, dude, you sell them on your site for $20? He wants to take it to the boards...

My question is, is $100 fair for a non-exclusive gallery that will probably never generate that much money since it is on a 50K tgp and I don't post galleries to other tgps?

Or is $20 adequate for a design that isn't mine exclusively anyway?

Babaganoosh · 11-29-2004, 06:34 PM

Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.

V_RocKs · 11-29-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.

Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

pornguy · 11-29-2004, 06:37 PM

If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.

So pay the guy the 100$

uno · 11-29-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Well, if you didn't pay for it in the first place, $100 is more than fair.

Yep. You go stealin the guy's design, the least you could do is give him 100. Why not pay for your galleries instead of stealing em?

skillfull · 11-29-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.

So pay the guy the 100$

what he said

Babaganoosh · 11-29-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

I have never stolen a design from anyone and that's the subject at hand. You stole it so you owe him whatever he says you owe him. $100 isn't unreasonable for a TGP design anyway.

jimmyf · 11-29-2004, 06:39 PM

if it's his design he can ask any thing for it he wants.

He don't have 2 sell it, could just ask you 2 take it down.

oh

why did you take it without asking, you do know what that is? don't you

Jakke PNG · 11-29-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

Umm.. why would anyone pay for anything if they could just pay what it's worth when/if they're caught.

You stole, you pay the 'fine'. Stop whining.

jimmyf · 11-29-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Umm.. why would anyone pay for anything if they could just pay what it's worth when/if they're caught.

You stole, you pay the 'fine'. Stop whining.

WarChild · 11-29-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
why did you take it without asking, you do know what that is? don't you

Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?

ProjectNaked · 11-29-2004, 06:43 PM

Jakke PNG · 11-29-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?

Unfortunately.

jimmyf · 11-29-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
Business as usual in Adult? Is that the right answer?

Looks like it is

MetaMan · 11-29-2004, 06:46 PM

people that steal from designers are the lowest shitheads on earth,

if you actually did steal it you owe him more than $100 imo.

V_RocKs · 11-29-2004, 06:49 PM

The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

Ron · 11-29-2004, 06:50 PM

$100 is to less... when i whas him i would have asked 2 - 3 times that much..

ztik · 11-29-2004, 06:50 PM

Idiot

Sly · 11-29-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

You seem like a fine person to do business with. When can we begin?

V_RocKs · 11-29-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan
people that steal from designers are the lowest shitheads on earth,

if you actually did steal it you owe him more than $100 imo.

I didn't know he was a designer. I liked the gallery and my tgp software has the ability to spyder galleries and edit the affiliate codes. If it wasn't part of the software I wouldn't have figured it was something normal to the industry. Kinda like a sponsor who uses the skimming feature. Which brings to mind, what the fuck are most of you opening your mouths in my thread for?

dunefield · 11-29-2004, 06:52 PM

PEOPLE WHO STEAL GO TO HELL!!!

Ron · 11-29-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

Thats even worse..

Jakke PNG · 11-29-2004, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

Dude. You suck. Seriously.
Think about it for a second.

Also, if you use any of his graphics or html, you're basically violating his copyright.. so better change it a lot if you plan to use it as your own design.

cherrylula · 11-29-2004, 06:54 PM

great, so who else are you stealing from?

chemicaleyes · 11-29-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
If you did not steal it tell him to lick your balls, and take you to court. If you did steal it, then you are a stupid shit head for asking about it on this board.

So pay the guy the 100$

fris · 11-29-2004, 06:56 PM

why would you steal a design, pay for someone to design something

galleryguy is a good guy, his designs are good, and his customers are loyal, not one complaint i can see.

Fake Nick · 11-29-2004, 06:58 PM

ha ha V ROCKS wil not be rocking much longer on gfy

you just fuckin owned yourself dude !!

V_RocKs · 11-29-2004, 06:59 PM

The GalleryGuy and I have come to an understanding. Seems he was only getting 1/2 of my ICQ messages and then only parts of the ones that did send. So he basically thought I was trying to dodge him.

Thanks everyone for your input. I got lessoned a bit. When I write my book, I will be sure to include this chapter.

crockett · 11-29-2004, 07:00 PM

how would you like someone to take your design on modelflats.com and use it on their own site?

ace0r · 11-29-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

too many idiots in this industry.

fris · 11-29-2004, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
how would you like someone to take your design on modelflats.com and use it on their own site?

exactly, if someone took my design i wouldnt like it

actually i am dealing with someone who runs a big mgp who stole his design trying to get it removed.

Fatalspeed · 11-29-2004, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

you steal a design, get caught, try to come here and ask if that's a right thing to do and now act like a real prick almost blaming the one you stole it from in the first place... good job

jact · 11-29-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by ztik
Idiot

Freakster · 11-29-2004, 07:38 PM

Damn... Mike should have exposed you and not even given you a chance to fix the situation. You got caught, and did not even pay him... taking it down after getting caught doesn't make it any better imho... it's too late.

Also asking if it was "fair"... stupid. You sure didn't ask Mike in the first place if it was fair that you steal his design..

I truely HOPE you did take down the other stolen galleries at the same time.

doober · 11-29-2004, 07:45 PM

this thread is pretty damn funny.
Makes me wonder if there any real webmasters around here...

swedguy · 11-29-2004, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
I didn't know he was a designer. I liked the gallery and my tgp software has the ability to spyder galleries and edit the affiliate codes. If it wasn't part of the software I wouldn't have figured it was something normal to the industry. Kinda like a sponsor who uses the skimming feature. Which brings to mind, what the fuck are most of you opening your mouths in my thread for?

Are you serious?

I guess it's just for people to start looking for their designs: http://www.whois.sc/reverse-ip/66.228.193.119 (25 domains)

iwantchixx · 11-29-2004, 07:55 PM

you gotta be kidding me. you think it's ok to spider galleries and put your ref codes and use other people's work? holy fuck, you'll do well around here.

Jakke PNG · 11-29-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
you gotta be kidding me. you think it's ok to spider galleries and put your ref codes and use other people's work? holy fuck, you'll do well around here.

Indeed.. and he doesn't see anything wrong with it.
Let everyone else just do the work..

Hugh · 11-29-2004, 08:02 PM

battle!

Big Monkie · 11-29-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

Wow, dude you are something else. This is what YOU just posted on another board from your icq conversation with Mike about this;

"Well, when I took it I didn't know who owned it and had no idea it was you ........... I used it only on my tgp and didn't post it around .............. I've only done it to about 10 galleries ............. I didn't know 1 gallery was going to cause this much grief to someone"

Stealing something as simple as a gallery is enough to make people wonder, but your responses are what is really interesting.

Fletch XXX · 11-29-2004, 08:11 PM

gallery theives are always welcome on GFY.

hell candyflip is getting paid to post here and hes been exposed.

numerous crooks have, they never go away and it never matteras.

people will be buying from them tomorrow and forever.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

DaLord · 11-29-2004, 08:46 PM

You did steal my design and (as I explained to you on ICQ) I really don't appreciate that.

I always try to treat people fair and never cheat so when I get cheated I get really angry.

Even that I own some fairly big TGPs I have to make some unique galleries to make money from them. Hosted galleries from sponsors are shit these days because all TGPs are using the same galleries so I make my own galleries. Of course to improve my ratio and it works.

I simply can't get into my head how you couldn't see you were doing something shitty when you took that design and started using it. You even took my thumbnails (that were cropped - odd size - so it took quite a bit of time to make them).

Not only do I run some clean sites but I also run GalleryGuy.com where I design for other webmasters. If all webmasters just took my stuff I wouldn't make much.

I could have knocked your trade script out in an hour or two but all I asked for was 100 dollars. You even told me not to "talk to you in that tone".

Guess I have a bad temper when I get angry

Doctor Dre · 11-29-2004, 08:48 PM

If you stole it ... yes

Doctor Dre · 11-29-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
Really? Never used Napster? Kazaa? or a pirated version of Photoshop or downloaded an MP3?

If you will stand behind that, then I'll just change it enough to become my own design or remove it. But $100 is way out of line in my book.

Dude if you start stealing designs in this business you will get hated and blocked ... very bad idea.

DaLord · 11-29-2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The GalleryGuy and I have come to an understanding. Seems he was only getting 1/2 of my ICQ messages and then only parts of the ones that did send. So he basically thought I was trying to dodge him.

Thanks everyone for your input. I got lessoned a bit. When I write my book, I will be sure to include this chapter.

The gallery design is still up. You didn't remove it.

Smut · 11-29-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
I ask him what he is talking about and it appears I am using a design on his for modelflats.com on one of my tgp's...

He demands $100 and I am like, dude, you sell them on your site for $20? He wants to take it to the boards...

My question is, is $100 fair for a non-exclusive gallery that will probably never generate that much money since it is on a 50K tgp and I don't post galleries to other tgps?

Or is $20 adequate for a design that isn't mine exclusively anyway?

If you're so hard up for a gallery design that you can't cough up $20 to buy it, you need to get the fuck out of this industry.

escorpio · 11-29-2004, 09:03 PM

Un-fucking-believable.

iwantchixx · 11-29-2004, 09:06 PM

i'm at a loss of words as to how much of an idiot this guy is acting like. he firmly believes it's all perfectly ok to change it and put it back up. just pay the fucker and be done with it.

DaLord · 11-29-2004, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
i'm at a loss of words as to how much of an idiot this guy is acting like. he firmly believes it's all perfectly ok to change it and put it back up. just pay the fucker and be done with it.

I'm not a "fucker"

alan-l · 11-29-2004, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by DaLord
The gallery design is still up. You didn't remove it.

no shit

11-29-2004, 06:30 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	So GalleryGuy hits me up on ICQ, says I stole his design I ask him what he is talking about and it appears I am using a design on his for modelflats.com on one of my tgp's... He demands $100 and I am like, dude, you sell them on your site for $20? He wants to take it to the boards... My question is, is $100 fair for a non-exclusive gallery that will probably never generate that much money since it is on a 50K tgp and I don't post galleries to other tgps? Or is $20 adequate for a design that isn't mine exclusively anyway?

11-29-2004, 06:34 PM	#2
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11-29-2004, 06:37 PM	#4
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11-29-2004, 06:39 PM	#8
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	if it's his design he can ask any thing for it he wants. He don't have 2 sell it, could just ask you 2 take it down. oh why did you take it without asking, you do know what that is? don't you __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

11-29-2004, 06:50 PM	#17
Ron Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NL Posts: 408	$100 is to less... when i whas him i would have asked 2 - 3 times that much.. __________________ Ron Hate: A special kind of love given to people who suck Those are my principles. If you don't like them... I have others. -=[Birdy birdy in the sky, left a poopie in my eye. Me don't care, me don't cry, me just happy that a cow can't fly!!]=-

11-29-2004, 06:43 PM	#12
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11-29-2004, 06:46 PM	#15
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	people that steal from designers are the lowest shitheads on earth, if you actually did steal it you owe him more than $100 imo.

11-29-2004, 06:49 PM	#16
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	The gallery has been removed. My point was he could have made money on it if he asked a reasonable price. Now I will just make some changes and put it back up as my own design.

11-29-2004, 06:50 PM	#18
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Idiot

11-29-2004, 06:52 PM	#21
dunefield www.barely18movies.com Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,920	PEOPLE WHO STEAL GO TO HELL!!! __________________

11-29-2004, 06:54 PM	#24
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	great, so who else are you stealing from?

11-29-2004, 06:56 PM	#26
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	why would you steal a design, pay for someone to design something galleryguy is a good guy, his designs are good, and his customers are loyal, not one complaint i can see. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

11-29-2004, 06:58 PM	#27
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	ha ha V ROCKS wil not be rocking much longer on gfy you just fuckin owned yourself dude !!

11-29-2004, 06:59 PM	#28
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	The GalleryGuy and I have come to an understanding. Seems he was only getting 1/2 of my ICQ messages and then only parts of the ones that did send. So he basically thought I was trying to dodge him. Thanks everyone for your input. I got lessoned a bit. When I write my book, I will be sure to include this chapter.

11-29-2004, 07:00 PM	#29
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	how would you like someone to take your design on modelflats.com and use it on their own site? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

11-29-2004, 07:38 PM	#34
Freakster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 833	Damn... Mike should have exposed you and not even given you a chance to fix the situation. You got caught, and did not even pay him... taking it down after getting caught doesn't make it any better imho... it's too late. Also asking if it was "fair"... stupid. You sure didn't ask Mike in the first place if it was fair that you steal his design.. I truely HOPE you did take down the other stolen galleries at the same time. __________________ 174-38-56

11-29-2004, 07:45 PM	#35
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	this thread is pretty damn funny. Makes me wonder if there any real webmasters around here...

11-29-2004, 07:55 PM	#37
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	you gotta be kidding me. you think it's ok to spider galleries and put your ref codes and use other people's work? holy fuck, you'll do well around here.

11-29-2004, 08:02 PM	#39
Hugh Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: S E A T T L E Posts: 194	battle!

11-29-2004, 08:11 PM	#41
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	gallery theives are always welcome on GFY. hell candyflip is getting paid to post here and hes been exposed. numerous crooks have, they never go away and it never matteras. people will be buying from them tomorrow and forever. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010 __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

11-29-2004, 08:46 PM	#42
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	You did steal my design and (as I explained to you on ICQ) I really don't appreciate that. I always try to treat people fair and never cheat so when I get cheated I get really angry. Even that I own some fairly big TGPs I have to make some unique galleries to make money from them. Hosted galleries from sponsors are shit these days because all TGPs are using the same galleries so I make my own galleries. Of course to improve my ratio and it works. I simply can't get into my head how you couldn't see you were doing something shitty when you took that design and started using it. You even took my thumbnails (that were cropped - odd size - so it took quite a bit of time to make them). Not only do I run some clean sites but I also run GalleryGuy.com where I design for other webmasters. If all webmasters just took my stuff I wouldn't make much. I could have knocked your trade script out in an hour or two but all I asked for was 100 dollars. You even told me not to "talk to you in that tone". Guess I have a bad temper when I get angry

11-29-2004, 09:03 PM	#47
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 23,115	Un-fucking-believable. __________________ Unvaxxed, still alive.

11-29-2004, 09:06 PM	#48
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	i'm at a loss of words as to how much of an idiot this guy is acting like. he firmly believes it's all perfectly ok to change it and put it back up. just pay the fucker and be done with it.