If AJ was honest then why was he so fast to pay me off when I started to go public? - GoFuckYourself.com

AaronM · 01-11-2005, 03:12 PM

So why did AJ want me to shut up about this? If I was lying, why did he borrow money to pay me off in the hopes that I would not bring it public?

You decide.

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 01:30:13 2001
[01:30] NaughtyJen & AJ: give me the balance for the flight this is over now
[01:30] NaughtyJen & AJ: u hang up on me etc.. thats fine and if thats how you percive this then be that way...
[01:32] AaronM: $618.00USD
[01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: for a flight i dont think so
[01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: u gave me 495 as the flight etc
[01:32] AaronM: OK
[01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: now as for the comment on the bed etc.. maybe that shows i was telling you the truth in regards to me not "big balling it"
[01:34] AaronM: $618.00

Mantas is aware of what is going on already.
[01:34] NaughtyJen & AJ: that is not whom i am workign for now etc... i am doing him other stuff which i have already shown him results and so forth...
[01:34] NaughtyJen & AJ: give me the recipt for 618 please
[01:35] NaughtyJen & AJ: as for naming me etc.. lets not play the dirt war... and of course i called you. i will not be put in a bad position over this and i will post in a moment bringing out etc how my financail end has even not paid myself
[01:35] NaughtyJen & AJ: and going to vegas for him etc..
[01:37] NaughtyJen & AJ: please fire me over the recipt for the flight for 618
[01:39] AaronM: The flight was not $618. It was about $450.00. So far you have paid $140.00 That leaves $310.00 plus $308 in fees that I was assessed because that particular account did not receive a wire that I was promised.
[01:40] NaughtyJen & AJ: 308 because of your bounced accounts?
[01:43] AaronM: That account was intentionally low and you said the wire had been sent knowing that I went out of pocket from that account for the airfare. That makes you liable for the overdraft fees.
[01:44] NaughtyJen & AJ: fair enough, now since you have labled me etc for things out of my own control and obvously tarnishing my name etc why should i pay? i mean i have all intent to as i stated to you prior to this but why this situation
[01:44] AaronM: Fine...Play your game.

I'm about to make my next move.
[01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: no
[01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: i said i have full intent on paying
[01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: im asking why you can not communicate right now etc
[01:46] AaronM: Why I can't communicate with you?

You?re the fucker that I have been chasing for answers for the last 2 weeks or so. You are the guy who says he will call me back in 20 minutes with a wire tracking number and then does not call or answer/return my calls for 24 hours.

I'm tired of the horseshit and games.
[01:47] NaughtyJen & AJ: i have been dealing with my own fiancial shit etc though so its not like you think im out spending $ etc.. as for the calls i normally do not ansewr a blocked id just like yourself.. anyways you will have your money asap... and am i correct to say this will die there?
[01:48] AaronM: Monday evening.
[01:49] NaughtyJen & AJ: well you know banks dont process on sat sun... paypal fine aval?
[01:50] AaronM: paypal works.

And banks do process wires on Mondays.
[01:55] NaughtyJen & AJ: k and i have your word it dies there?
[01:55] AaronM: Have i ever lied to you?
[01:56] NaughtyJen & AJ: bout your name and that was all... as i said i trust you..
[01:58] NaughtyJen & AJ: once sent may i call you?
[01:58] NaughtyJen & AJ: or this end of communications
[01:59] AaronM: Not right now. I have juggling ICQ's, my family is waitng for me to join them for lunch now.
[01:59] NaughtyJen & AJ: i dont mean right this second persay.. i mean overall...
[01:59] NaughtyJen & AJ: stay here for 1 min
[02:00] NaughtyJen & AJ: you have paypal
[02:01] NaughtyJen & AJ: conferm that you have it please..
[02:01] AaronM: Got it.
[02:03] NaughtyJen & AJ: full amount etc or were there fees to take out etc.. i want this to be square... u tell me
[02:04] AaronM: Of course there were fees. $24.40 to be exact.
[02:04] NaughtyJen & AJ: k i will send that now
[02:05] AaronM: Just ad about 3%
[02:05] NaughtyJen & AJ: i have 18 i can send i will send the remainder as soon as more propigates
[02:06] NaughtyJen & AJ: sent
[02:09] NaughtyJen & AJ: got it?
[02:10] AaronM: Yes
Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:10:40 2001

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:20:46 2001
[02:20] NaughtyJen & AJ: how much more ar eyou out... aside from the 4-5 dollars from the service fees that i didnt send.. # right now
Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 06:44:29 2001

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 07:50:11 2001
[07:50] NaughtyJen & AJ: you not going to list more expenses.. give em to me so u can be quiet then
[07:53] NaughtyJen & AJ: because of this i just lost my job.. thanks
[07:56] NaughtyJen & AJ: told leslie that i have screwd over other people in regards to when i was running naughtyjenn?
[07:57] NaughtyJen & AJ: can you not speak i see you posting away but yet you cant speak...
[07:59] AaronM: Not interested in speaking to you. And Now I am going to meet my family for dinner and a movie.

I'm done talking to you now.

-----[/quote]------

BTW AJ...You still owe me about $6.94

emthree · 01-11-2005, 03:14 PM

Sig spot ?

Manowar · 01-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:20:46 2001
[02:20] NaughtyJen & AJ: how much more ar eyou out... aside from the 4-5 dollars from the service fees that i didnt send.. # right now
Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 06:44:29 2001

sounds like he did want to reimburse you. But seeing as i'm not involved and dont have all the details, I wont comment on who's right and who's wrong here

AaronM · 01-11-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:20:46 2001
[02:20] NaughtyJen & AJ: how much more ar eyou out... aside from the 4-5 dollars from the service fees that i didnt send.. # right now
Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 06:44:29 2001

sounds like he did want to reimburse you. But seeing as i'm not involved and dont have all the details, I wont comment on who's right and who's wrong here

All he wanted to do was save his own ass by trying to shut me up.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-11-2005, 03:17 PM

Cliff notes anyone?

sextoyking · 01-11-2005, 03:17 PM

Damm Aaron pulling up icq's from months ago?

uno · 01-11-2005, 03:18 PM

Damn, that was 3.25 years ago.

Nylz · 01-11-2005, 03:19 PM

popcorn please

galleryseek · 01-11-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

So why did AJ want me to shut up about this? If I was lying, why did he borrow money to pay me off in the hopes that I would not bring it public?

Maybe because like me, he has the type of personality to deal with the trolls n' feed 'em what they want - and are able to look past bullshit and suck it up?

The few times I've spoken with AJ, he was a very friendly / nice guy.

Manowar · 01-11-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

Damm Aaron pulling up icq's from months ago?

Just noticed it was 2001

emthree · 01-11-2005, 03:20 PM

Okay, if you're going to post logs ...
You might as well give some background information on why he owes you money for a flight? I'm not so sure he was in the wrong by wanting to resolve the issue before it puts his name deeper in a pile of shit. Your name and rep is something that's hard recover in this industry.

But like I said, I have no idea what this is about.

emthree · 01-11-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

Just noticed it was 2001

Probably a fucked up comp clock

NaughtyINC · 01-11-2005, 03:26 PM

yeah im a bad person cause i even wanted to pay the service fee's lol.. I felt bad because he told me his landlords check bounced.

And yeah I wanted the issue resolved because I dont go public with my biz when things dont go to plan..

Also I should not have paid you since biz comes and goes and until $ is in hands or contracts.. Pretty much I paid your rent because I felt bad. Lesson learned and I am sure others are taking notes on how you conduct biz.

if you feel that you need to communicate you have my contact numbers and so forth.

sextoyking · 01-11-2005, 03:31 PM

You paid his rent Naughty?

Damm Aaron, are things tight right now? If you need some part time work or something, mabey I could find you some hours at our gresham computer store...

I don't know you well, but always thought you were a big content shooter or something?

Phoenix · 01-11-2005, 03:36 PM

boooooring

bring on some real drama

NaughtyINC · 01-11-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emthree

Okay, if you're going to post logs ...
You might as well give some background information on why he owes you money for a flight? I'm not so sure he was in the wrong by wanting to resolve the issue before it puts his name deeper in a pile of shit. Your name and rep is something that's hard recover in this industry.

But like I said, I have no idea what this is about.

I do not owe him any $. I did pay him for the 450 dollar flight aswell as the other $ from his bank fees (from overdraft etc) which came to $618.00

The situation is I contacted him to shoot some content, we arranged the price and dates etc (I was a middle man just pointing A-B) when the person was no longer intrested in hiring Aaron (keep in mind no contracts and no $ had crossed hands yet) Because of his own personal reasons and does not even pay myself I was put in a bad middle position.

Aaron had purchased a ticket to fly up to Toronto to shoot (still without a contract or $ in hand) So I felt bad and paid out of my own pocket for his loss.

That is the gist of it.. Im sure he has his side and others have theirs but that is just my perspective on it.

Entropy · 01-11-2005, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyINC

I do not owe him any $. I did pay him for the 450 dollar flight aswell as the other $ from his bank fees (from overdraft etc) which came to $618.00

The situation is I contacted him to shoot some content, we arranged the price and dates etc (I was a middle man just pointing A-B) when the person was no longer intrested in hiring Aaron (keep in mind no contracts and no $ had crossed hands yet) Because of his own personal reasons and does not even pay myself I was put in a bad middle position.

Aaron had purchased a ticket to fly up to Toronto to shoot (still without a contract or $ in hand) So I felt bad and paid out of my own pocket for his loss.

That is the gist of it.. Im sure he has his side and others have theirs but that is just my perspective on it.

If that's actually true, you shouldn't have paid himshit.

justsexxx · 01-11-2005, 04:02 PM

Why start 2 topics with the same subject on the same day?

AaronM · 01-11-2005, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

Just noticed it was 2001

lol...Well....I guess that proves it's a real log. My computer clock is fucked. It thinks todoay is August 30th, 2001.

Sorry about that.

Maybe I should fix my clock and calendar now.

The conversation in that log were from December of 2004

AaronM · 01-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

You paid his rent Naughty?

Damm Aaron, are things tight right now? If you need some part time work or something, mabey I could find you some hours at our gresham computer store...

I don't know you well, but always thought you were a big content shooter or something?

Yeah Todd...He paid my rent. RIIIIGHT!

Are you really this fucking stupid?

Johny Traffic · 01-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Im always too late to get my sig in

AaronM · 01-11-2005, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyINC

I do not owe him any $. I did pay him for the 450 dollar flight aswell as the other $ from his bank fees (from overdraft etc) which came to $618.00

The situation is I contacted him to shoot some content, we arranged the price and dates etc (I was a middle man just pointing A-B) when the person was no longer intrested in hiring Aaron (keep in mind no contracts and no $ had crossed hands yet) Because of his own personal reasons and does not even pay myself I was put in a bad middle position.

Aaron had purchased a ticket to fly up to Toronto to shoot (still without a contract or $ in hand) So I felt bad and paid out of my own pocket for his loss.

That is the gist of it.. Im sure he has his side and others have theirs but that is just my perspective on it.

You're still living in this fantasy world?

You played the middle man for an employer who does not, did not, and never will exist.

And if he does exist and if he did not want to work with me then why diud you call and tell me that he had sent the wire?

Ooops...Caught in another lie.

sextoyking · 01-11-2005, 04:18 PM

Yeh Aaron, I am really that stupid

LOL

I was just trying to help you out man. np - your piss not mine.

justsexxx · 01-11-2005, 04:24 PM

This topic is sad in so many ways actually

sonofsam · 01-11-2005, 04:30 PM

you guys should fight to the death with bamboo sticks...

btw... working things out between the both of you would be in both of your best interests... i mean... he did pay you in the end... when he could have just snaked you and avoided you forever... give him some credit for that... he didn't completely fuck you.

Vitasoy · 01-11-2005, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nylz

popcorn please

Your wish, is my command..

01-11-2005, 03:12 PM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	If AJ was honest then why was he so fast to pay me off when I started to go public? So why did AJ want me to shut up about this? If I was lying, why did he borrow money to pay me off in the hopes that I would not bring it public? You decide. Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 01:30:13 2001 [01:30] NaughtyJen & AJ: give me the balance for the flight this is over now [01:30] NaughtyJen & AJ: u hang up on me etc.. thats fine and if thats how you percive this then be that way... [01:32] AaronM: $618.00USD [01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: for a flight i dont think so [01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: u gave me 495 as the flight etc [01:32] AaronM: OK [01:32] NaughtyJen & AJ: now as for the comment on the bed etc.. maybe that shows i was telling you the truth in regards to me not "big balling it" [01:34] AaronM: $618.00 Mantas is aware of what is going on already. [01:34] NaughtyJen & AJ: that is not whom i am workign for now etc... i am doing him other stuff which i have already shown him results and so forth... [01:34] NaughtyJen & AJ: give me the recipt for 618 please [01:35] NaughtyJen & AJ: as for naming me etc.. lets not play the dirt war... and of course i called you. i will not be put in a bad position over this and i will post in a moment bringing out etc how my financail end has even not paid myself [01:35] NaughtyJen & AJ: and going to vegas for him etc.. [01:37] NaughtyJen & AJ: please fire me over the recipt for the flight for 618 [01:39] AaronM: The flight was not $618. It was about $450.00. So far you have paid $140.00 That leaves $310.00 plus $308 in fees that I was assessed because that particular account did not receive a wire that I was promised. [01:40] NaughtyJen & AJ: 308 because of your bounced accounts? [01:43] AaronM: That account was intentionally low and you said the wire had been sent knowing that I went out of pocket from that account for the airfare. That makes you liable for the overdraft fees. [01:44] NaughtyJen & AJ: fair enough, now since you have labled me etc for things out of my own control and obvously tarnishing my name etc why should i pay? i mean i have all intent to as i stated to you prior to this but why this situation [01:44] AaronM: Fine...Play your game. I'm about to make my next move. [01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: no [01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: i said i have full intent on paying [01:45] NaughtyJen & AJ: im asking why you can not communicate right now etc [01:46] AaronM: Why I can't communicate with you? You?re the fucker that I have been chasing for answers for the last 2 weeks or so. You are the guy who says he will call me back in 20 minutes with a wire tracking number and then does not call or answer/return my calls for 24 hours. I'm tired of the horseshit and games. [01:47] NaughtyJen & AJ: i have been dealing with my own fiancial shit etc though so its not like you think im out spending $ etc.. as for the calls i normally do not ansewr a blocked id just like yourself.. anyways you will have your money asap... and am i correct to say this will die there? [01:48] AaronM: Monday evening. [01:49] NaughtyJen & AJ: well you know banks dont process on sat sun... paypal fine aval? [01:50] AaronM: paypal works. And banks do process wires on Mondays. [01:55] NaughtyJen & AJ: k and i have your word it dies there? [01:55] AaronM: Have i ever lied to you? [01:56] NaughtyJen & AJ: bout your name and that was all... as i said i trust you.. [01:58] NaughtyJen & AJ: once sent may i call you? [01:58] NaughtyJen & AJ: or this end of communications [01:59] AaronM: Not right now. I have juggling ICQ's, my family is waitng for me to join them for lunch now. [01:59] NaughtyJen & AJ: i dont mean right this second persay.. i mean overall... [01:59] NaughtyJen & AJ: stay here for 1 min [02:00] NaughtyJen & AJ: you have paypal [02:01] NaughtyJen & AJ: conferm that you have it please.. [02:01] AaronM: Got it. [02:03] NaughtyJen & AJ: full amount etc or were there fees to take out etc.. i want this to be square... u tell me [02:04] AaronM: Of course there were fees. $24.40 to be exact. [02:04] NaughtyJen & AJ: k i will send that now [02:05] AaronM: Just ad about 3% [02:05] NaughtyJen & AJ: i have 18 i can send i will send the remainder as soon as more propigates [02:06] NaughtyJen & AJ: sent [02:09] NaughtyJen & AJ: got it? [02:10] AaronM: Yes Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:10:40 2001 Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 02:20:46 2001 [02:20] NaughtyJen & AJ: how much more ar eyou out... aside from the 4-5 dollars from the service fees that i didnt send.. # right now Session Close (NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 06:44:29 2001 Session Start (ICQ - AaronM:NaughtyJen & AJ): Thu Aug 30 07:50:11 2001 [07:50] NaughtyJen & AJ: you not going to list more expenses.. give em to me so u can be quiet then [07:53] NaughtyJen & AJ: because of this i just lost my job.. thanks [07:56] NaughtyJen & AJ: told leslie that i have screwd over other people in regards to when i was running naughtyjenn? [07:57] NaughtyJen & AJ: can you not speak i see you posting away but yet you cant speak... [07:59] AaronM: Not interested in speaking to you. And Now I am going to meet my family for dinner and a movie. I'm done talking to you now. -----[/quote]------ BTW AJ...You still owe me about $6.94

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emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	Okay, if you're going to post logs ... You might as well give some background information on why he owes you money for a flight? I'm not so sure he was in the wrong by wanting to resolve the issue before it puts his name deeper in a pile of shit. Your name and rep is something that's hard recover in this industry. But like I said, I have no idea what this is about. __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

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NaughtyINC Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,288	yeah im a bad person cause i even wanted to pay the service fee's lol.. I felt bad because he told me his landlords check bounced. And yeah I wanted the issue resolved because I dont go public with my biz when things dont go to plan.. Also I should not have paid you since biz comes and goes and until $ is in hands or contracts.. Pretty much I paid your rent because I felt bad. Lesson learned and I am sure others are taking notes on how you conduct biz. if you feel that you need to communicate you have my contact numbers and so forth. __________________ meh

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01-11-2005, 04:30 PM	#25
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	you guys should fight to the death with bamboo sticks... btw... working things out between the both of you would be in both of your best interests... i mean... he did pay you in the end... when he could have just snaked you and avoided you forever... give him some credit for that... he didn't completely fuck you. __________________ I like turtles.