Java Creator: Huge Security Hole in .Net - GoFuckYourself.com

just a punk · 02-05-2005, 03:09 PM

SYDNEY, Australia ? James Gosling, developer of the Java programming language, said this week that Microsoft?s .NET development platform suffers from ?a security hole big enough to drive many, many large trucks through.? Full Story...

I just don't understand one thing however... Yes, C/C++ code could be extremely unsafe under .NET's CLR, but why don't use C# which was especially developed for .NET and has no security problems like C or C++?.. In other words, there is a "Huge Security Hole" but in .NET C/C++ only, but not in .NET technology itself IMHO...

just a punk · 02-05-2005, 04:07 PM

He-he

Seems not a lot of people here have a clue what .NET and Java technologies are

liquidmoe · 02-05-2005, 04:34 PM

Possibly people share the opinion that both of them suck.

Java was a nice concept but completely sucks in implementation, way too slow and cumbersome, and the I dont think anyone is really going to be trusting anything that Microsoft releases anytime soon as being secure.

Just wait till MacroMedia takes over and has flash doing everything that these two are offering.

tdp-Cool-content · 02-05-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

SYDNEY, Australia ? James Gosling, developer of the Java programming language, said this week that Microsoft?s .NET development platform suffers from ?a security hole big enough to drive many, many large trucks through.? Full Story...

I just don't understand one thing however... Yes, C/C++ code could be extremely unsafe under .NET's CLR, but why don't use C# which was especially developed for .NET and has no security problems like C or C++?.. In other words, there is a "Huge Security Hole" but in .NET C/C++ only, but not in .NET technology itself IMHO...

good question. maybe if you had some realy big company systems build with com or com+ intergration. then perhabs they also have to be remade to accept .NET calls. maybe ?

The Sultan Of Smut · 02-05-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

He-he

Seems not a lot of people here have a clue what .NET and Java technologies are

That's not true, I just don't use them so I really don't give a shit. Thanks for the heads up anyway though

bret · 02-05-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidmoe

Possibly people share the opinion that both of them suck.

Java was a nice concept but completely sucks in implementation, way too slow and cumbersome, and the I dont think anyone is really going to be trusting anything that Microsoft releases anytime soon as being secure.

Just wait till MacroMedia takes over and has flash doing everything that these two are offering.

bwhahhhahahahahhaahhhaa. oh wow, thanks for a good laugh.

do you have ANY idea how many mega sites rely on microsoft and sun technologies?

"macromedia takes over"?!? bwhahahahahhahahahah

colpanic · 02-05-2005, 05:21 PM

The guy quoted in that article is just a language geek. His statement was absurd.

What he is *really* saying is "Pointers are bad"... The hole you could drive several large trucks through has absolutely nothing to do with .NET, he is calling any language that allows pointers and casting weak.

Makes perfect sense for a java geek, but it is a lame argument.

Oh yeah, and I'm a linux geek, but C# is the best thing MSFT has put out in a long time.

colpanic · 02-05-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidmoe

Possibly people share the opinion that both of them suck.

Java was a nice concept but completely sucks in implementation, way too slow and cumbersome, and the I dont think anyone is really going to be trusting anything that Microsoft releases anytime soon as being secure.

Just wait till MacroMedia takes over and has flash doing everything that these two are offering.

A nice concept? I mean, I'm with ya.. I can't stand Java. It is far and away the most popular language in existance today though

Flash is cute, but you aren't going to see any serverside applications use it anytime soon.

pudcat · 02-05-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidmoe

....Just wait till MacroMedia takes over and has flash doing everything that these two are offering.

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liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Possibly people share the opinion that both of them suck. Java was a nice concept but completely sucks in implementation, way too slow and cumbersome, and the I dont think anyone is really going to be trusting anything that Microsoft releases anytime soon as being secure. Just wait till MacroMedia takes over and has flash doing everything that these two are offering. __________________ Take Luck!

02-05-2005, 05:21 PM	#7
colpanic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,007	The guy quoted in that article is just a language geek. His statement was absurd. What he is really saying is "Pointers are bad"... The hole you could drive several large trucks through has absolutely nothing to do with .NET, he is calling any language that allows pointers and casting weak. Makes perfect sense for a java geek, but it is a lame argument. Oh yeah, and I'm a linux geek, but C# is the best thing MSFT has put out in a long time. __________________ I like ducks.