Why don't more sponsors offer SE friendly linking - GoFuckYourself.com

pimplink · 10-06-2004, 01:44 PM

Like etu-cash does?

For example, you link to http://bigboobspaysite.com and the referring domain is tracked, so that there is no need for a tracking code?

OWNED · 10-06-2004, 01:46 PM

shut up noob.

Rinaldo · 10-06-2004, 01:47 PM

Well what kind of linking are you referring to?

pimplink · 10-06-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Platinum Rinaldo
Well what kind of linking are you referring to?

copied from http://etu-cash.com/free_staff.html:

Direct link.

This option is also totally unique and was invented by us.

You list your domain in our database then instead of sending traffic to a long, ugly URL like http://www.ravegloryhole.com/index.php3?id=YourID (the common way all partnerships programs work nowadays), you will be able to send traffic directly to the site, such as http://www.ravegloryhole.com and you will STILL GET CREDIT FOR ALL SIGNUPS!

However strange it sounds, this is has proven to actually DOUBLE the conversion! Most of surfers nowadays are more tech-savvy than in previous years and some of them go as far as even deleting the link code with webmasters ID simply because they don't want anyone to profit from their money! They also simply like and trust www.paysite.com much more than http://www.paysite.com/fuckknowswhat...smartwebmaster

WiredGuy · 10-06-2004, 01:55 PM

Quickbuck has a very flexible system for SE friendly urls.
WG

pimplink · 10-06-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Quickbuck has a very flexible system for SE friendly urls.
WG

thanks, I'll check them out

polish_aristocrat · 10-06-2004, 02:00 PM

Do you really believe, such things double your conversions?

Raf1 · 10-06-2004, 02:01 PM

yeah, I wish more sponsors would use SE friendly urls

Serge Litehead · 10-06-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
Like etu-cash does?

For example, you link to http://bigboobspaysite.com and the referring domain is tracked, so that there is no need for a tracking code?

will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.
but who doesn't want untrackable traffic?

EscortDate_Enoj · 10-06-2004, 02:03 PM

I asked the same question a few months back, I wrote an affiliate system earlier this year which uses that method and it works just great.

In addition to offering awesome short URLs to our affiliates, we now also track all sales from all other sites - not registered by affiliates. In other words, we get direct conversion rates from all search engines, etc etc.

It kicks ass.

pimplink · 10-06-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Do you really believe, such things double your conversions?

I wasn't even referring to that line. It's just about your credibility and SE friendliness.

pimplink · 10-06-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by holograph
will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.
but who doesn't want untrackable traffic?

or in that case, something like bigboobspaysite.com/pimplink

teleblade69 · 10-06-2004, 03:01 PM

SEO is tha bomb

tb

xxxjay · 10-06-2004, 03:04 PM

That would be great for the paysite operators if you could link directly.

Pimplink - you can feel free to link directly to any or all of our sites, we will give your credit - I promise.

Our linkcode for occash are SE friendly as well, BTW.

EscortDate_Enoj · 10-06-2004, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by holograph
will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.

While this is true, how many users are using that excact piece of software? On one of our paysites the content provider relies on HTTP_REFERER to be the paysite's members area when a user is sent to it. We have rarely had any problems with it though.

Also, can anyone give me a good reason why a piece of firewall software should block the browser's HTTP_REFERER? I can understand blocking for example USER_AGENT to not let the site throw the browser a version-specific exploit, but how does it make sense with HTTP_REFERER?

The only fairly valid reason I can think of is privacy-freaks which refuses to send any site the address they came from, but that is not a good enough reason for making this the default setting in such a high profile firewall application.

Anyway, thinking about this I decided to post a screenshot from the affiliate program (the one I made, mentioned it earlier) we use for one of our sites, to show you what kind of handy information you can retrieve by using such a method.

The screenshots show's the top #20 unregistered sites in our system. That means, all sites not registered by an affiliate. That mostly includes search engines, some top lists etc.

The numbers are hits, sales and conversion rates. Also have in mind these are SMS sales, which is the lesser used payment method on our site. The credit card sales are not counted here as our beloved Verotel takes care of that.

As you can see for yourself, in terms of optimizing profits such information as the picture above is great to see which areas needs work, etc.

Also, the picture above groups all the referers by domain to create a count per domain. If we want, we can also see detailed statistics on search engine keywords, etc.

Wouldn't it be easier to improve your sites with such information?

roly · 10-06-2004, 03:11 PM

tracking like that only benefits the program owners as far as search engine friendlyness goes, not the affiliate.

Jensen · 10-06-2004, 06:59 PM

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tracking like that only benefits the program owners as far as search engine friendlyness goes, not the affiliate.

yep.. but sure would be nice for the owners..

Basic_man · 10-06-2004, 09:00 PM

Could be great if Adult.com had this!

emthree · 10-06-2004, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Basic_man
Could be great if Adult.com had this!

You must be getting paid per post.

FiReC · 10-06-2004, 09:52 PM

Tracking by HTTP_REFERER is a horrible idea! Many people are now blocking it and it will only get worse.

As far as "se friendly" codes go, last time i checked vbulletin links with all their variables in the URL were being spidered by google. SE's are moving towards spidering dynamic content, not away from it.

pornstar2pac · 10-06-2004, 10:23 PM

why doesn't the program owners just submit their link to yahoo or google like everyone who has a website does and cut out the middlemen(oh wait a min...)

Fukeneh · 10-06-2004, 11:00 PM

www.domain.com/affiliateid/optional.sub

would be ideal for me. its very easy with mod rewrite. or even just changing the acceptable variables in php to use / instead of &

this is not new, many people are using it. i just didnt think anyone was stupid enough to just direct link to the domain and hope the sponsor tracks the referrer, due to reffer being blocked or unavailable in so many cases.

xxxjay · 10-07-2004, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
why doesn't the program owners just submit their link to yahoo or google like everyone who has a website does and cut out the middlemen(oh wait a min...)

pornstar2pac is the biggest idiot on this board and is the 1st to make my ignore list. Congrats,

SmokeyTheBear · 10-07-2004, 02:20 AM

btw this would make it less se friendly not more se friendly..

like if i send my hits to www.sexvideos.com the se wont track the link with your ref code because there is no ref code..

its a good idea to make your own site look cleaner without ref codes makes it seem more legit.

But se's are picking up dynamic content quite well already so.

Nathan · 10-07-2004, 02:35 AM

I am a little bit confused here everyone...

What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain. What other sense is there if I may ask?!

Maybe I am just too stupid for that.

NATS uses linkinc codes which do not use Query String btw.

strobi · 10-07-2004, 02:42 AM

does this work with a simple redirect? google hates redirects

pornstar2pac · 10-07-2004, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
pornstar2pac is the biggest idiot on this board and is the 1st to make my ignore list. Congrats,

I don't give a fuck what you think. Your nobody to me. You don't make me money, and I don't need your shit to make money.

good luck with OK cash and your buddy TT Boy. the one who employed the dude who gave aids to many peeps

xxxjay · 10-07-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
I am a little bit confused here everyone...

What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain. What other sense is there if I may ask?!

Maybe I am just too stupid for that.

NATS uses linkinc codes which do not use Query String btw.

I've been seeing the NATS codes indexed in Google quite a bit.

xxxjay · 10-07-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
I am a little bit confused here everyone...

What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain.

That is true.

Intrigue · 10-07-2004, 01:50 PM

I've used mod_rewrite to rewrite friendly urls eg: mydomain.com/paysite_name to a script which would lookup paysite_name and send them to the appropriate url w/ the proper affil code in place, it's actually pretty simple to do...

Tipsy · 10-07-2004, 02:37 PM

It's been said but not really answered. What's with the 'SE friendly' crap? Why would it matter to you if a paysite does better in the rankings as you certainly won't get credit when they do and the linking described doesn't help you with SE's.

NATS codes are a different matter though

kenny · 10-07-2004, 02:45 PM

I have had

http://www.sponsor.com/tour.html?my_affilate_id

Indexed in the SE's before. Hell, I probably got some in there like that now.

Anyway.. thats friendly enough for me

Robert · 10-07-2004, 03:02 PM

Privatecuties.com FHG URLs are SE friendly

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...e+cuties+sarka

Zeiss · 12-03-2012, 01:42 PM

Because nobody wants to have the same content on different urls being indexed by SE...

10-06-2004, 01:44 PM	#1
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	Why don't more sponsors offer SE friendly linking Like etu-cash does? For example, you link to http://bigboobspaysite.com and the referring domain is tracked, so that there is no need for a tracking code? __________________ Need Mainstream Content and SEO? SEO * Website Copy * Blogs Blogging - PR Work - Forum Marketing - Social Marketing - Link building - Articles 100% Guaranteed Content!

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EscortDate_Enoj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 87	I asked the same question a few months back, I wrote an affiliate system earlier this year which uses that method and it works just great. In addition to offering awesome short URLs to our affiliates, we now also track all sales from all other sites - not registered by affiliates. In other words, we get direct conversion rates from all search engines, etc etc. It kicks ass. __________________ 1:287 all November with UnrealBank

10-06-2004, 01:46 PM	#2
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	shut up noob.

10-06-2004, 01:47 PM	#3
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	Well what kind of linking are you referring to?

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xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,483	That would be great for the paysite operators if you could link directly. Pimplink - you can feel free to link directly to any or all of our sites, we will give your credit - I promise. Our linkcode for occash are SE friendly as well, BTW. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	tracking like that only benefits the program owners as far as search engine friendlyness goes, not the affiliate.

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FiReC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Land o Nubiles Posts: 2,350	Tracking by HTTP_REFERER is a horrible idea! Many people are now blocking it and it will only get worse. As far as "se friendly" codes go, last time i checked vbulletin links with all their variables in the URL were being spidered by google. SE's are moving towards spidering dynamic content, not away from it. __________________ www.nubilefilms.com \| www.nubiles.net \| www.anilos.com \| tubescript.nubiles.net \| icq4162727

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Fukeneh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 1,245	www.domain.com/affiliateid/optional.sub would be ideal for me. its very easy with mod rewrite. or even just changing the acceptable variables in php to use / instead of & this is not new, many people are using it. i just didnt think anyone was stupid enough to just direct link to the domain and hope the sponsor tracks the referrer, due to reffer being blocked or unavailable in so many cases.

10-07-2004, 02:20 AM	#24
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	btw this would make it less se friendly not more se friendly.. like if i send my hits to www.sexvideos.com the se wont track the link with your ref code because there is no ref code.. its a good idea to make your own site look cleaner without ref codes makes it seem more legit. But se's are picking up dynamic content quite well already so. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-07-2004, 02:35 AM	#25
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	I am a little bit confused here everyone... What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain. What other sense is there if I may ask?! Maybe I am just too stupid for that. NATS uses linkinc codes which do not use Query String btw. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	does this work with a simple redirect? google hates redirects

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Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	I've used mod_rewrite to rewrite friendly urls eg: mydomain.com/paysite_name to a script which would lookup paysite_name and send them to the appropriate url w/ the proper affil code in place, it's actually pretty simple to do...

10-07-2004, 02:37 PM	#31
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	It's been said but not really answered. What's with the 'SE friendly' crap? Why would it matter to you if a paysite does better in the rankings as you certainly won't get credit when they do and the linking described doesn't help you with SE's. NATS codes are a different matter though __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

10-07-2004, 02:45 PM	#32
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I have had http://www.sponsor.com/tour.html?my_affilate_id Indexed in the SE's before. Hell, I probably got some in there like that now. Anyway.. thats friendly enough for me

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