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Old 04-15-2005, 01:40 AM   #1
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Sexsearch and AFF

How is Sexsearch.com compared to AFF? Any comments from affiliates used to both programs most welcome!
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Old 04-15-2005, 01:45 AM   #2
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AFF hands down wins this contest, at least from my experiences. When I tried SexSearch their webmaster area was a disaster, and that's an understatement. It was a waste of time to try and find anything, because you couldn't.

AFF will set you up with a personal manager that will work with your site(s) over the phone, by IM and email, to make sure you make as much cash as possible. They'll give you great advice not just on banner placement, but on site layout changes/options as well that will really help your revenue.

As for SexSearch now, who knows, maybe they've gotton better. I've never had any problems with AFF, though, so that's why I'm giving you my advice to go with AFF. They're the oldest and biggest (pretty sure) service on the market.

DatingGold.com is decent too, we use them as well and they've been a great secondary income source.
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BIASED OPINION: SexSearch.com is an extraordinary product that's come a very great distance in a very short time -- and the long-held AFF lead is narrowing by the day. FACT.

As with all questions of sponsor superiority, the answer must always be "Try them out; make your own decision, with your own traffic."

In this case, each site has a qualitative traffic "sweet spot" where the best conversion performance is realized. There is an overlap range between SexSearch and AFF, and there are types of traffic for which each site shows a conversion advantage over the other.

As it happens, I can be of unique assistance to you in helping you make your determination, and in performing your conversion tests -- click "...plague" in SIG -- -- monro.

Thank you Downtime for calling attention to the quality of affiliate management and service it was, until very recently, my privilege to uphold at AFF.

Things change.

For the unfamiliar, or for those who haven't measured the revenue effects of their traffic against the SexSearch.com product for a while, it may be a good time to take another look.


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Old 04-15-2005, 02:46 AM   #4
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I like AFF, but I've always thought they have one of the worst stats and webmaster areas of any affiliate program out there.

I hope one day they decide to launch a better version of their stats reporting.
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:06 AM   #5
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I think both AFF's and SexSearch's affiliate area's are not what they should be. Both not really as clear cut as they could be... that said both AFF and SS convert very good. I wouldn't use just one of them, I use 'em both. Try them out for a week or so and see which one gets you better results.
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:15 AM   #6
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i didnt try sexsearch but im gonna reg today but for aff
betsy is godess i love her ;) she helps always and she will sit with you for 10 hours until u done setting if needed so thumbs up for AFF! /me loves betsy!
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:19 AM   #7
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:07 AM   #8
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BIASED OPINION: SexSearch.com is an extraordinary product that's come a very great distance in a very short time -- and the long-held AFF lead is narrowing by the day. FACT.

As with all questions of sponsor superiority, the answer must always be "Try them out; make your own decision, with your own traffic."

In this case, each site has a qualitative traffic "sweet spot" where the best conversion performance is realized. There is an overlap range between SexSearch and AFF, and there are types of traffic for which each site shows a conversion advantage over the other.

As it happens, I can be of unique assistance to you in helping you make your determination, and in performing your conversion tests -- click "...plague" in SIG -- -- monro.

Thank you Downtime for calling attention to the quality of affiliate management and service it was, until very recently, my privilege to uphold at AFF.

Things change.

For the unfamiliar, or for those who haven't measured the revenue effects of their traffic against the SexSearch.com product for a while, it may be a good time to take another look.


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Old 04-15-2005, 08:12 AM   #9
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:15 AM   #10
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:20 AM   #11
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Adult Friend Finder All the WAY !


Lets look at a recent poll what average gfy people think of what sites..

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...&highlight=aff

Adult Friend Finder is the clear winner !


Go with the Biggest and the Best there is a reason why Adult Friend Finder is #1 !

Superior Support staff
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:27 AM   #12
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I like AFF, but I've always thought they have one of the worst stats and webmaster areas of any affiliate program out there.

I hope one day they decide to launch a better version of their stats reporting.
We are working on a redesign at the moment. In the meantime if anyone needs help setting up links contact me.
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:48 AM   #13
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AFF's webmaster area is light years ahead of what it was a couple of years back. At least they understand now that affiliates aren't going to bother to sign up for 10 or 20 individual sites and have adopted the KISS principle
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:52 AM   #14
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If you have Bondage/BDSM/Fetish Traffic try bondage.com they have a huge personal system and it converts really well with the geo targeted banners.. see sig for Penguin Cash
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:04 AM   #15
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i use both...i push AFF harder on my sites than sexsearch,

would be nice if sexsearch had a percentage program like AFF instead of the flat.

if i had to choose one, then SEE SIG!
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:15 AM   #16
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use both for large site network
if you want to choose one dating sponsor to push, AFF is the choice
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AFF is a machine. they have staff 24/7 at that building to make sure that they can convert your traffic. it is amazing

there is no gap. AFF is the best at what they do when looking at the other programs
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AFF is a machine. they have staff 24/7 at that building to make sure that they can convert your traffic. it is amazing

there is no gap. AFF is the best at what they do when looking at the other programs
????

I've tried the affiliate support email adress several times but no reply. The sugesstionas here (GFY) is always "make a telephone call" why? If they have an email adress for affiliate support should it not work?

My first reaction, if somone do not answer mails, are to stop doing business! It saved us a lot of money at Ibill as an example.

We will see how it works out at sexsearch.
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BIASED OPINION: SexSearch.com is an extraordinary product that's come a very great distance in a very short time -- and the long-held AFF lead is narrowing by the day. FACT.

As with all questions of sponsor superiority, the answer must always be "Try them out; make your own decision, with your own traffic."

In this case, each site has a qualitative traffic "sweet spot" where the best conversion performance is realized. There is an overlap range between SexSearch and AFF, and there are types of traffic for which each site shows a conversion advantage over the other.

As it happens, I can be of unique assistance to you in helping you make your determination, and in performing your conversion tests -- click "...plague" in SIG -- -- monro.

Thank you Downtime for calling attention to the quality of affiliate management and service it was, until very recently, my privilege to uphold at AFF.

Things change.

For the unfamiliar, or for those who haven't measured the revenue effects of their traffic against the SexSearch.com product for a while, it may be a good time to take another look.


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Hey J, It only took AFF til now to finally get us a new rep? Should have told us where you were going maybe we would have followed. Email me sometime [email protected] and we will see about possibly switching
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AFF will set you up with a personal manager that will work with your site(s) over the phone, by IM and email, to make sure you make as much cash as possible. They'll give you great advice not just on banner placement, but on site layout changes/options as well that will really help your revenue.

....

ok, where do I get that kinda response? looking in the admin area of AFF now...
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ok, where do I get that kinda response? looking in the admin area of AFF now...
On the front page once you login, it should say who your personal rep is; their name, icq #, phone #, etc. Jack was ours since we joined (up until now obviously) and helped us out immensely; we really owe him a lot.
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It only shows that information if you have an account rep
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Old 04-15-2005, 11:22 AM   #24
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we have been affiliates since 1998. Turnover $157336. No reply's to mails, no "personal help" Only thru other affiliates.
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we have been affiliates since 1998. Turnover $157336. No reply's to mails, no "personal help" Only thru other affiliates.
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... will set you up with a personal manager that will work with your site(s) over the phone, by IM and email, to make sure you make as much cash as possible. They'll give you great advice not just on banner placement, but on site layout changes/options as well that will really help your revenue.

I just tested this THEORY of yours within the past 30 minutes and got the exact opposite oppinion...


clickcash will keep my biz...and for % side, I guess iwantu will be taking that part...
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I think both AFF's and SexSearch's affiliate area's are not what they should be. Both not really as clear cut as they could be... that said both AFF and SS convert very good. I wouldn't use just one of them, I use 'em both. Try them out for a week or so and see which one gets you better results.
What he said. Overall, I am very disappointed in both of their aff areas - AFF is just confusing and SS seems like they just haven't put enough time into theirs.

However, they are great if you can cross-promote them - better if you have decent tracking to see which get more clicks/sales. Using creative techniques with profiles, target pages, etc. you can do really well.
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I've tried the affiliate support email adress several times but no reply. The sugesstionas here (GFY) is always "make a telephone call" why? If they have an email adress for affiliate support should it not work?

My first reaction, if somone do not answer mails, are to stop doing business! It saved us a lot of money at Ibill as an example.

We will see how it works out at sexsearch.
My e-mail address is in the signature if you're e-mail to our support is not responded to it could be because our support addressed is blocked by your ISP. I need to know that so please feel free to e-mail me anytime. Especially if an earlier e-mail you sent appears to have been unanswered.
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AFF pays me. SexSearch didn't want to talk business at the tradeshow. LOL
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Ok, I retract that. I think I was mis-reading or mis-understanding the person I met by the pool. Sorry! Very responsive now.

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I joined Sex Search recently and haven't sent any single hit yet so I can't comment on the conversions, but in general from an affiliate point of view, I think they should implement Epassporte payments --> nowadays many webmasters do really expect that.
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i think Sex Search is by far the better product. They have come so far in such a short space of time. I am not affiliated with them in any way, and am only speaking from the fact that I have been watching their growth in relation to the continued growth of AFF, which has always been strong. AFF is doing well, and Sex Search is definately catching them up. I think there's more than enough room for both companies to do very well from their market.

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How is Sexsearch.com compared to AFF? Any comments from affiliates used to both programs most welcome!
I've tossed a considerble amount of traffic at both and I must say they both perform amazingly well.
You could do well with either one. I've noticed some do better with AFF and some do well with Sexsearch.

I highly recommend you speak with Marina at Sexsearch or Raj and they'll set you up. I no longer know any Sales reps at AFF, but I can easily put you in touch with someone there and their staff is great too.
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the best answer is if you are only using AFF you are losing out .. signup for SS as well and watch some extra cash roll in ..

Signup now under me and i'll get ya back somehow !
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I've tossed a considerble amount of traffic at both and I must say they both perform amazingly well.
You could do well with either one. I've noticed some do better with AFF and some do well with Sexsearch.

I highly recommend you speak with Marina at Sexsearch or Raj and they'll set you up. I no longer know any Sales reps at AFF, but I can easily put you in touch with someone there and their staff is great too.
sagi can hook you up. lars can hook you up. and if you cant find one of those boys on and its in the middle of the week no matter what time it is, i bet you can find me online. sometimes on the weekends i try not to work, but i end up working a lot anyhow. so if you dont know Sagi or Legendary Lars, you will know me. there is no way that there is someone in this business that has not seen lars photo up on this mug.

AFF has been paying webmasters for a fucking decade

(and i really like cam traffic, no really)
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:29 PM   #43
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sagi can hook you up. lars can hook you up. and if you cant find one of those boys on and its in the middle of the week no matter what time it is, i bet you can find me online. sometimes on the weekends i try not to work, but i end up working a lot anyhow. so if you dont know Sagi or Legendary Lars, you will know me. there is no way that there is someone in this business that has not seen lars photo up on this mug.

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Yeah I'm online a lot too. In fact Rinaldo I think we did meet in Pheonix. Whether we did meet or not don't hesitate to contact me. I'm always willing to help out.
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Lars, myself and the back of Aimee Sweet.
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Here are all the ICQ numbers of the other AFF experts.

Andrea - 28724234
Bernard - 284341636 (Swiss and German support)
Betsy - 265952036
Carli - 210648741 (Spanish support)
Charity - 215446267 (can also assist in payment questions)
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Kristen - 248932623 (Italian support)
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