Chirac shitting his pants. European Union going down in flames - GoFuckYourself.com

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 04:46 AM

http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/news...ION-FRANCE.xml

BRISK · 04-15-2005, 05:00 AM

The EU wouldn't go down in flames if the constitution is rejected

Exagerate much?

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

The EU wouldn't go down in flames if the constitution is rejected

Exagerate much?

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Use what little brain you've got, Copernicus.

BRISK · 04-15-2005, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Use what little brain you've got, Copernicus.

Do you always resort to childish behaviour when someone disagrees with you? How old are you?

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

Do you always resort to childish behaviour when someone disagrees with you? How old are you?

It's ok to cry

justsexxx · 04-15-2005, 05:20 AM

It will not collapse. And it's already a totally different "thing" then the NAFTA. Where you're from? If you are from Europe, you must be very stupid to give this kinda comments. When you are not, it's ok. You proberly know Europe from books, and Society news.

BRISK · 04-15-2005, 05:20 AM

It's obvious that you don't approach the analysis of a subject from an objective point of view, and you've displayed a lack of even basic critical thinking skills. Then when someone disagrees with you, you're quick to attempt to discredit them by claiming they're stupid.

Classic GFY

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

You proberly know Europe from books, and Society news.

Yes, proberly

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK

It's obvious that you don't approach the analysis of a subject from an objective point of view, and you've displayed a lack of even basic critical thinking skills. Then when someone disagrees with you, you're quick to attempt to discredit them by claiming they're stupid.

Classic GFY

But you are stupid.

I have yet to see you post an objective analysis of the situation.

So far, you have ignorantly stated that "the EU wouldn't go down in flames if the constitution is rejected" and then you proceeded to cry about being called dumb.

roly · 04-15-2005, 05:32 AM

i live in europe and i don't want the constitution. close trading links between european states is great as the common market (EEC) was setup for. but i don't want political union with other countries or law making etc in brussels, just close friendly links and free trade within europe.

PenisFace · 04-15-2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

It's obvious that you don't approach the analysis of a subject from an objective point of view, and you've displayed a lack of even basic critical thinking skills. Then when someone disagrees with you, you're quick to attempt to discredit them by claiming they're stupid.

Classic GFY

Perhaps Jawa is a 12clicks character?

polish_aristocrat · 04-15-2005, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace

Perhaps Jawa is a 12clicks character?

12clicks does coke with his underage daughter and gets excited when he sees her nude?

Rui · 04-15-2005, 05:35 AM

You really need to get a clue and stop doing coke with your daughter :/

Evil Jawa · 04-15-2005, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by roly

i live in europe and i don't want the constitution. close trading links between european states is great as the common market (EEC) was setup for. but i don't want political union with other countries or law making etc in brussels, just close friendly links and free trade within europe.

The problem with the EU is that the countries of Europe never agreed on anything to begin with. It's a fundamentally flawed concept.

Kevsh · 04-15-2005, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

You really need to get a clue and stop doing coke with your daughter :/

It's official: Drama Day Friday has begun ...

ADL Colin · 04-15-2005, 06:31 AM

Evil Jawa, you crack me up. You need a jawa avatar.

psili · 04-15-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

12clicks does coke with his underage daughter and gets excited when he sees her nude?

dohhhhh!

BRISK · 04-15-2005, 06:36 AM

The EU has been an evolving concept from it's earliest beginnings over 50 years ago. It has been through the debate and negotiation of many treaties in its history, if one or more countries were to reject the currently proposed constitution, they wouldn't just all get up from the table and walk away from the idea of the EU. If any country were to reject the constitution, it certainly wouldn't help to move the EU forward, but at the same time, it wouldn't be the end. It's not a black or white situation. Rejecting the constitution now could simply be a hurdle in the path towards eventually agreeing to it, or a future revised version of it.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and the US Constitution wasn't exactly a walk in the park either.

wjxxx · 04-15-2005, 07:20 AM

First of all: Chirac is a fucktard.
EU was free trade agreement and it should be only free trade agreement in the future. Political union is sick idea.

Nysus · 04-15-2005, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK

The EU has been an evolving concept from it's earliest beginnings over 50 years ago. It has been through the debate and negotiation of many treaties in its history, if one or more countries were to reject the currently proposed constitution, they wouldn't just all get up from the table and walk away from the idea of the EU. If any country were to reject the constitution, it certainly wouldn't help to move the EU forward, but at the same time, it wouldn't be the end. It's not a black or white situation. Rejecting the constitution now could simply be a hurdle in the path towards eventually agreeing to it, or a future revised version of it.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and the US Constitution wasn't exactly a walk in the park either.

Bingo!

Matt

GatorB · 04-15-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Use what little brain you've got, Copernicus.

Hey Einstien, the USA existed from 1776-1788 WITHOUT a consitituion. Explain that one.

skillfull · 04-15-2005, 10:35 AM

hey , Quebec isnt in the Canadian constitution btw ;)

Pornrex · 04-15-2005, 11:20 AM

Canada is a fucking joke and Quebec is the punch line.

Gunni · 04-15-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Use what little brain you've got, Copernicus.

it's not supposed to be an organized nation...
it is a trade union, ask anyone in Europe if they want Europe to be one nation and you will get no as an answer in 99,9% of the cases.

There are too many cultural differences and language barriers for that ever to be even a slight possibility

Tipsy · 04-15-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation.

An 'organized nation'? What a twat. The EU never has (yet) been one despite most Americans thinking otherwise. But then your posts tend to repeatedly prove the point that your intelligence is too low to troll well.

Pleasurepays · 04-15-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tipsy

An 'organized nation'? What a twat. The EU never has (yet) been one despite most Americans thinking otherwise. But then your posts tend to repeatedly prove the point that your intelligence is too low to troll well.

"most americans thinking..."

i dont think most Americans think very much about the EU at all. there is not much evidence to support the notion that Americans think about much of anything outside US borders.

Johny Traffic · 04-15-2005, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Hint: Your to stupid to post. Stop posting.

12clicks · 04-16-2005, 09:46 AM

ahhhh, I see some of my loser/detractors managed to pay for another month of connectivity.

borked · 04-16-2005, 10:08 AM

If any of the member states votes against the constitution, it doesn't mean there won't be a constitution, it just mean the current draft (and that is what is being voted on, a draft) will have to go back to be rewritten.

There is a very worrying paragraph which states that anything in the constitution now cannot me modified. This is very worrying for the socialistic lifestyle of the French who protect their workforce like no other. The constitution as it stands is very AngloSaxon and supports free exchange of labour force, which basically means certain trades, like the building trade in developed Euro countries will be flooded with cheap labour from the ex Soviet Bloc countries.

Basically, Europe is evolving and has been doing for some time. The comment about the fatal flaw being that European countries cannot agree on anything is bullshit. A NO vote now against the constitution will probably mean the final constitution will be even stronger. True, it won't help France's strong stance in Europe, but as it's the people that decide, then that can only be a good thing for the benefit of all involved.

TTiger · 04-16-2005, 11:34 AM

more info here..
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...ution&ie=UTF-8

XxXotic · 04-16-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Hint: Your to stupid to post. Stop posting.

Hint: YOU'RE

if YOU'RE going to tell people they're stupid, at least have the courtesy to know which form of the word to use

VeriSexy · 04-16-2005, 12:26 PM

France makes damn sexy planes!!! Ff they ever need money, China will buy them in a heartbeat

Rich · 04-16-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

What use is the EU without a constitution?

Hint: without the constitution, the EU per se does not exist as an organized nation. Its status is roughly the same as Canada, the US, and Mexico under NAFTA.

Use what little brain you've got, Copernicus.

Wow, you question someone else's intelligence, in same post where you claim the EU is trying to be "an organized nation".

Tell us more, oh wise one.

loverboy · 04-16-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

France makes damn sexy planes!!! Ff they ever need money, China will buy them in a heartbeat

shit, i wonder what new technology US is hiding

gxer · 04-16-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Jawa

http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/news...ION-FRANCE.xml

stop posting and go learn chineese - you'll need it very soon, 10 years max.

jimmyf · 04-16-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by roly

i live in europe and i don't want the constitution. close trading links between european states is great as the common market (EEC) was setup for. but i don't want political union with other countries or law making etc in brussels, just close friendly links and free trade within europe.

if I lived there I'll most likly want something like you posted.

political union No fucking way.

jimmyf · 04-16-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by loverboy

shit, i wonder what new technology US is hiding

I'd bet a ton of it.

DaLord · 04-16-2005, 02:12 PM

Stupidity at its finest. You never fail to find it at GFY.

xclusive · 04-16-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

France makes damn sexy planes!!! Ff they ever need money, China will buy them in a heartbeat

Fastest Jets in the world of course that's just so they can run from a battle lol

borked · 04-16-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaLord

Stupidity at its finest. You never fail to find it at GFY.

Amen, just look at the post below yours!
Does anyone have a brain here that doesn't reside in their dick?

mockingbich · 04-16-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gxer

stop posting and go learn chineese - you'll need it very soon, 10 years max.

In 10 years, the surviving chinese will need to know Hebrew

Nightraven · 04-16-2005, 04:12 PM

At least the Euro is still worth more than the dollar :D

DamageX · 04-16-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaLord

Stupidity at its finest. You never fail to find it at GFY.

Look at it from the bright side, it makes us feel better about ourselves.

DaLord · 04-17-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Look at it from the bright side, it makes us feel better about ourselves.

It's funny though...
Those who can't make a living from this are also the ones who shows the biggest stupidity. Go figure

who · 04-17-2005, 06:52 AM

Well when Turkey joins the E.U., THEN it will perhaps go up in flames...

swedguy · 04-17-2005, 07:30 AM

I hope it gets turned down since the control will be much more centralised. You can not have centralised control for as big region as Europe. All countries are so different and what might work in Sweden or Netherlands, will not work in Estonia or some other of the new EU countries.

swedguy · 04-17-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by .?.

Well when Turkey joins the E.U., THEN it will perhaps go up in flames...

When EU had its last expansion, that's when I think the downhill started.

Jakke PNG · 04-17-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightraven

At least the Euro is still worth more than the dollar :D

You say that like it's a good thing...

Manga1 · 04-17-2005, 07:47 AM

Here's some good info on the constitution http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2950276.stm

04-15-2005, 04:46 AM	#1
Evil Jawa So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 444	Chirac shitting his pants. European Union going down in flames http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/news...ION-FRANCE.xml

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The EU wouldn't go down in flames if the constitution is rejected Exagerate much? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	It will not collapse. And it's already a totally different "thing" then the NAFTA. Where you're from? If you are from Europe, you must be very stupid to give this kinda comments. When you are not, it's ok. You proberly know Europe from books, and Society news. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	It's obvious that you don't approach the analysis of a subject from an objective point of view, and you've displayed a lack of even basic critical thinking skills. Then when someone disagrees with you, you're quick to attempt to discredit them by claiming they're stupid. Classic GFY __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The EU has been an evolving concept from it's earliest beginnings over 50 years ago. It has been through the debate and negotiation of many treaties in its history, if one or more countries were to reject the currently proposed constitution, they wouldn't just all get up from the table and walk away from the idea of the EU. If any country were to reject the constitution, it certainly wouldn't help to move the EU forward, but at the same time, it wouldn't be the end. It's not a black or white situation. Rejecting the constitution now could simply be a hurdle in the path towards eventually agreeing to it, or a future revised version of it. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the US Constitution wasn't exactly a walk in the park either. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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Manga1 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Malakiaville Posts: 952	Here's some good info on the constitution http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2950276.stm