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Old 05-19-2005, 12:18 AM   #1
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ok it official star wars III sucks

just got back from the show, i was expecting something really good
and was really disappointed

the worst part was that everything wrong could have been fixed by proper editing and sequencing.
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don't tell my like that movie.

anikin turned to the dark side to easily.
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don't tell my like that movie.

anikin turned to the dark side to easily.
If you saw EP1 Yoda said Anakin was too old to study to be a Jedi. They like to have them before age 5 not 10.

Think about it if you got Jedi powers right now tell me with 100% certainty you would do things you shouldn't. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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No, movie didn't suck. It was just 'alright', which isn't to say it wasn't exponentially better than 1 and 2.
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Except for the writing, acting, and directing, it was fucking great!

Oh, yeah, the audience full of infantile closet-cases was kind of annoying too.
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Oh, yeah, the audience full of infantile closet-cases was kind of annoying too.

Okay, now I admit I never have, nor will I ever likely find myself in a room of Star Wars fans . . . but isn't that what you would expect to find when you got there?
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just got back from the show, i was expecting something really good
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the worst part was that everything wrong could have been fixed by proper editing and sequencing.
u obviously have no taste in movies..the movie rocked
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If you saw EP1 Yoda said Anakin was too old to study to be a Jedi. They like to have them before age 5 not 10.

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If you saw EP1 Yoda said Anakin was too old to study to be a Jedi. They like to have them before age 5 not 10.

Think about it if you got Jedi powers right now tell me with 100% certainty you would do things you shouldn't. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
lmao ..... please get a life
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If you saw EP1 Yoda said Anakin was too old to study to be a Jedi. They like to have them before age 5 not 10.

Think about it if you got Jedi powers right now tell me with 100% certainty you would do things you shouldn't. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Coming from people who wait 8 hours in line to see Star Wars.
Well not me, I saw the news saying they were going to show star wars at silver city (11 PM) and I decided I would go since I live so close by.

Figured it would be fun to see all the star wars geeks in costumes.

Spoiler alert don't scroll down if you want to see this movie



































The fact is George sort of touched on the fact that if you turn a hero into a villain he doesn't believe what he is doing is evil. (In the battle with obi wan he says that he sees the council as evil)
He sees the good guys as bad guys and that is how he justifies everything he is doing.


Change a couple of scenes and the sequences that turn ani into darth vader and this point comes across clearly.

For example instead of having palentine talk about his master in the opera house to make the argument that the sith and the jedi are actually the same.

He should have given the back-story about how the sith came into being.

palentine: Anikin did master yoda ever tell you how the sith came to be
Anikin: No
palentine: 10,000 years ago there was a galactic empire, the jedi were a vast army far greater than the clone army of the republic. They maintain the peace for the empire. They obeyed the principles of the jedi caring only for others. These battalions of jedi were lead by normal beings with no force powers themselves. All was well until a general was struck down in battle and a jedi knight was forced to take the mantle of leadership. He led his battalion to victory and was given a promotion to general himself. Ultimately he craved move power and believed that he being the emperor would best serve the empire. His ambition corrupted him and he became the first darth lord of the sith. His battalion followed him and he trained them all to use the power of the dark side of the force.

Though they were outnumbered 20 to 1 the power of the dark side gave them victory over the remain jedi knights. However in victory the sith tasted defeat because each member of the battalion believed that deserved to be the emperor. The resulting battle for power did not end until there was only one sith lord left. While his power was immense it was not great enough to keep the peace for an entire galaxy. The sith lord went into hiding and Petty warlord believing they should be emperor destroyed the empire and plunged the galaxy into 9000 years of barbarism.

Billions of people were killed; entire civilizations were wiped out until finally the republic was born out of the ashes of that great disaster.


Have the palintine explain that he believes that he has created the same situation by putting the jedi in charge of the clone battalions. And the he does not believe that not only will the jedi refuse to give up that power they have but that they will want to take over the republic.

And anikin killing mace windu because he wants to kill the palintine instead of bringing him to justice makes more sense.

Hell even killing all the jedi younglings could be justified if they had just had palintine tell him to kill them all and anikin objecting with something like "even the younglings"
And palintine responding "unfortunately anikin they have seen the power the master have been granted they will want the same power and their training prevents them from having these memories taken from them"


Just have anikin wave his hand at the younglings and say "forget" and the kid say something "what are you doing master anikin" before he turns on his light saber and you get the point across that anikin is doing what he is doing to save the galaxy.

don't turn anikin into darth vader until after amedala dies and blame the name change on him wanting to give up anikin life because it means nothing without padmin you could actually create empathy for the character.
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The fact is George sort of touched on the fact that if you turn a hero into a villain he doesn't believe what he is doing is evil. (In the battle with obi wan he says that he sees the council as evil)
He sees the good guys as bad guys and that is how he justifies everything he is doing.


Change a couple of scenes and the sequences that turn ani into darth vader and this point comes across clearly.

For example instead of having palentine talk about his master in the opera house to make the argument that the sith and the jedi are actually the same.

He should have given the back-story about how the sith came into being.

palentine: Anikin did master yoda ever tell you how the sith came to be
Anikin: No
palentine: 10,000 years ago there was a galactic empire, the jedi were a vast army far greater than the clone army of the republic. They maintain the peace for the empire. They obeyed the principles of the jedi caring only for others. These battalions of jedi were lead by normal beings with no force powers themselves. All was well until a general was struck down in battle and a jedi knight was forced to take the mantle of leadership. He led his battalion to victory and was given a promotion to general himself. Ultimately he craved move power and believed that he being the emperor would best serve the empire. His ambition corrupted him and he became the first darth lord of the sith. His battalion followed him and he trained them all to use the power of the dark side of the force.

Though they were outnumbered 20 to 1 the power of the dark side gave them victory over the remain jedi knights. However in victory the sith tasted defeat because each member of the battalion believed that deserved to be the emperor. The resulting battle for power did not end until there was only one sith lord left. While his power was immense it was not great enough to keep the peace for an entire galaxy. The sith lord went into hiding and Petty warlord believing they should be emperor destroyed the empire and plunged the galaxy into 9000 years of barbarism.

Billions of people were killed; entire civilizations were wiped out until finally the republic was born out of the ashes of that great disaster.


Have the palintine explain that he believes that he has created the same situation by putting the jedi in charge of the clone battalions. And the he does not believe that not only will the jedi refuse to give up that power they have but that they will want to take over the republic.

And anikin killing mace windu because he wants to kill the palintine instead of bringing him to justice makes more sense.

Hell even killing all the jedi younglings could be justified if they had just had palintine tell him to kill them all and anikin objecting with something like "even the younglings"
And palintine responding "unfortunately anikin they have seen the power the master have been granted they will want the same power and their training prevents them from having these memories taken from them"


Just have anikin wave his hand at the younglings and say "forget" and the kid say something "what are you doing master anikin" before he turns on his light saber and you get the point across that anikin is doing what he is doing to save the galaxy.

don't turn anikin into darth vader until after amedala dies and blame the name change on him wanting to give up anikin life because it means nothing without padmin you could actually create empathy for the character.
Shouldn't this have its own thread?
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don't tell my like that movie.

anikin turned to the dark side to easily.
He did most of the evil stuff at first to save his wife. If there was a chance that you could save the person you loved most in the world and your child would you turn against the council which was full of ungrateful SOBs? If you were more powerful than 99% of the council. Proved yourself after countless battles, did the impossible and saved the Chancellor, killed the separatist leader wouldn't you expect to be promoted to master atleast?

I think he just said fuck it. I've never gotten anything I've ever deserved. The Jedi's cost me my mothers life. Hell if I am going to take there side and teachings again and cost me a nice piece of ass like Natalie Portman ;)

I mean its not like he got brainwashed he choose to rule the galaxy and get what he feels he deserves. His plan was just fucked royally by Obi Wan chopping him up into little pieces therefore robbing him of his power to take down the emperor and become the master.

Found it ironic that him trying to save her life was what cost it in the first place. He didn't kill her... she lost the will to live after Anakin turned to the darkside.
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Well not me, I saw the news saying they were going to show star wars at silver city (11 PM) and I decided I would go since I live so close by.

Figured it would be fun to see all the star wars geeks in costumes.

Spoiler alert don't scroll down if you want to see this movie



































The fact is George sort of touched on the fact that if you turn a hero into a villain he doesn't believe what he is doing is evil. (In the battle with obi wan he says that he sees the council as evil)
He sees the good guys as bad guys and that is how he justifies everything he is doing.


Change a couple of scenes and the sequences that turn ani into darth vader and this point comes across clearly.

For example instead of having palentine talk about his master in the opera house to make the argument that the sith and the jedi are actually the same.

He should have given the back-story about how the sith came into being.

palentine: Anikin did master yoda ever tell you how the sith came to be
Anikin: No
palentine: 10,000 years ago there was a galactic empire, the jedi were a vast army far greater than the clone army of the republic. They maintain the peace for the empire. They obeyed the principles of the jedi caring only for others. These battalions of jedi were lead by normal beings with no force powers themselves. All was well until a general was struck down in battle and a jedi knight was forced to take the mantle of leadership. He led his battalion to victory and was given a promotion to general himself. Ultimately he craved move power and believed that he being the emperor would best serve the empire. His ambition corrupted him and he became the first darth lord of the sith. His battalion followed him and he trained them all to use the power of the dark side of the force.

Though they were outnumbered 20 to 1 the power of the dark side gave them victory over the remain jedi knights. However in victory the sith tasted defeat because each member of the battalion believed that deserved to be the emperor. The resulting battle for power did not end until there was only one sith lord left. While his power was immense it was not great enough to keep the peace for an entire galaxy. The sith lord went into hiding and Petty warlord believing they should be emperor destroyed the empire and plunged the galaxy into 9000 years of barbarism.

Billions of people were killed; entire civilizations were wiped out until finally the republic was born out of the ashes of that great disaster.


Have the palintine explain that he believes that he has created the same situation by putting the jedi in charge of the clone battalions. And the he does not believe that not only will the jedi refuse to give up that power they have but that they will want to take over the republic.

And anikin killing mace windu because he wants to kill the palintine instead of bringing him to justice makes more sense.

Hell even killing all the jedi younglings could be justified if they had just had palintine tell him to kill them all and anikin objecting with something like "even the younglings"
And palintine responding "unfortunately anikin they have seen the power the master have been granted they will want the same power and their training prevents them from having these memories taken from them"


Just have anikin wave his hand at the younglings and say "forget" and the kid say something "what are you doing master anikin" before he turns on his light saber and you get the point across that anikin is doing what he is doing to save the galaxy.

don't turn anikin into darth vader until after amedala dies and blame the name change on him wanting to give up anikin life because it means nothing without padmin you could actually create empathy for the character.
Goddamn you missed the entire point of the movie... Anakin didn't believe any of the shit Palpatine was saying about the Jedi trying to take over. Why do you think he went back to the Jedi temple to rat him out to Mace. Only thing Anakin cared about was saving Padme's life. Along the way he just craved more and more power. If he would of killed Obi Wan he would of eventually got to the emperor himself. Thats what the Emperor meant at the theater about him killing his master. The Sith apprentice will always kill the master when he is strong enough to do so.

9000 years of barbarism? WTF you talking about Willis. Every single Sith Lord was eventually stopped by the Jedi Order. There were times when the sith roamed the universe in vast numbers. Due to the constant bickering and fueding there numbers dwindled. The strongest then decided that there will be only two. The Master and the Apprentice. For years the Sith disappeared from view until they surfaced again with Palpatine and the destruction of the Jedi Order.
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Well not me, I saw the news saying they were going to show star wars at silver city (11 PM) and I decided I would go since I live so close by.

Figured it would be fun to see all the star wars geeks in costumes.

Spoiler alert don't scroll down if you want to see this movie



































The fact is George sort of touched on the fact that if you turn a hero into a villain he doesn't believe what he is doing is evil. (In the battle with obi wan he says that he sees the council as evil)
He sees the good guys as bad guys and that is how he justifies everything he is doing.


Change a couple of scenes and the sequences that turn ani into darth vader and this point comes across clearly.

For example instead of having palentine talk about his master in the opera house to make the argument that the sith and the jedi are actually the same.

He should have given the back-story about how the sith came into being.

palentine: Anikin did master yoda ever tell you how the sith came to be
Anikin: No
palentine: 10,000 years ago there was a galactic empire, the jedi were a vast army far greater than the clone army of the republic. They maintain the peace for the empire. They obeyed the principles of the jedi caring only for others. These battalions of jedi were lead by normal beings with no force powers themselves. All was well until a general was struck down in battle and a jedi knight was forced to take the mantle of leadership. He led his battalion to victory and was given a promotion to general himself. Ultimately he craved move power and believed that he being the emperor would best serve the empire. His ambition corrupted him and he became the first darth lord of the sith. His battalion followed him and he trained them all to use the power of the dark side of the force.

Though they were outnumbered 20 to 1 the power of the dark side gave them victory over the remain jedi knights. However in victory the sith tasted defeat because each member of the battalion believed that deserved to be the emperor. The resulting battle for power did not end until there was only one sith lord left. While his power was immense it was not great enough to keep the peace for an entire galaxy. The sith lord went into hiding and Petty warlord believing they should be emperor destroyed the empire and plunged the galaxy into 9000 years of barbarism.

Billions of people were killed; entire civilizations were wiped out until finally the republic was born out of the ashes of that great disaster.


Have the palintine explain that he believes that he has created the same situation by putting the jedi in charge of the clone battalions. And the he does not believe that not only will the jedi refuse to give up that power they have but that they will want to take over the republic.

And anikin killing mace windu because he wants to kill the palintine instead of bringing him to justice makes more sense.

Hell even killing all the jedi younglings could be justified if they had just had palintine tell him to kill them all and anikin objecting with something like "even the younglings"
And palintine responding "unfortunately anikin they have seen the power the master have been granted they will want the same power and their training prevents them from having these memories taken from them"


Just have anikin wave his hand at the younglings and say "forget" and the kid say something "what are you doing master anikin" before he turns on his light saber and you get the point across that anikin is doing what he is doing to save the galaxy.

don't turn anikin into darth vader until after amedala dies and blame the name change on him wanting to give up anikin life because it means nothing without padmin you could actually create empathy for the character.

Beware of the dark side. Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight.
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Thanks for the info I was going to go see it this weekend
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Old 05-19-2005, 04:23 PM   #38
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Beware of the dark side. Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight.
Master Yoda how did it feel getting owned by Palpatine
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Master Yoda how did it feel getting owned by Palpatine

Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:08 PM   #40
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We can't speak in behalf of those million viewers brotha--
though personally, I love the film!
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george lucas is a genius... how dare you say that..LOL...




fear leads to hatred....hatred leads to the dark side....
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:37 PM   #42
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Thanks for the info I was going to go see it this weekend
He said "Spoiler alert" in his post.

If you want another spoiler , Anakin will get 2 kids, one named Luke, and the other will be Lea.

And the best part, Anakin will become Darth Vader!
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COuld hav been waaaaaayy better!
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I thought it was good. Not incredible, but good. I do think however that he turned to the dark saide to easy.
I have to agree with your assessment. It wasn't Return Of the King by any means, but it was a good movie, and a relief that it was good seeing as how the other two totally blew and were major disappointments.

The plot did have holes and he did turn way too easily to the darkside; I also think he was given an 'out' or an excuse to do so and I would have rather Lucas chalked it straight up to ambition.........and the acting was better than the first two, although at times I have to admit it was really clunky dealing with some of those pedestrian lines they had to try and emote with. One major complaint was after the slaughter of the children. Ben's reaction was totally underplayed. He should have been shaking with emotion and fighting back tears in relaying this horror to Amidila. Instead we had a rather wooden response to a true horror.

That said, the action was fantastic, the machines phenomenal. Nobody does techology like George. Nobody. I just wish there were more moments when he would slow things down and pull us in emotionally more.
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For me, I guess, this movie would be in the "Return of the Jedi" territory, and maybe even slightly better......in fact, I will rank it 3rd, after "Empire Strikes Back" and "Star Wars(a new hope)." So over-all, I am pleased but it wasn't brilliant by no means.

One thing that makes me laugh everytime at a Star Wars movie is, once again, females in the theater were an endangered species.
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It was a great film.
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Okay, now I admit I never have, nor will I ever likely find myself in a room of Star Wars fans
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