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Old 06-01-2005, 02:49 PM   #1
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.xxx TLD Near Reality

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.xxx TLD Near Reality
By: MJ McMahon
Posted: 2:46 pm PDT 6-1-2005


TORONTO - That .xxx TLD you first heard about five years ago? It?s about to become a reality.

.xxx was officially handed over to ICM Registry today, after they re-submitted their application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) to operate .xxx as a voluntary sponsored top-level domain (sTLD) last March. The TLD was first proposed to ICANN in 2000 and sat in limbo for some time.

?It took us three years to get the support of the industry and the free speech groups. We had to deal with parents and children?s groups that have their own issues. Obviously, we had to deal with trademark and free speech groups to make sure they are both secure and protected,? Jason Hendeles, vice president of strategic business development for ICM Registry, told AVNOnline.com.

ICM has invested more than $1.5 million towards developing a consensus and support for .xxx. They have worked with industry professionals to develop non-profit organization International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR), which will oversee the TLD. Webmasters who purchase a .xxx domain will agree to abide by the charter of the organization.

?As a voluntary TLD we offer the industry to chance to regularize their business procedures and become a much more legitimized industry as a result of this,? Hendeles said. ?A lot of people are going to jump on it and we?re not forcing anyone to give up their .coms, but those people that are in the .xxx space are all indicating their agreement to act responsibly.?

Primarily, .xxx and IFFOR were designed to combat the scourge of child pornography.

?The application is aimed at creating an identifiable web area that will help battle child pornography, while at the same time enabling responsible adult-entertainment web site operators to self-organize and self-label on a voluntary basis,? said Stuart Lawley, president and chairman of ICM Registry.

The domain is expected to be available by the fourth quarter through any ICANN accredited registrar. With $10 of each registered domain going towards funding of IFFOR, .xxx?s will run slightly higher than .com?s.

?Ideally, those who choose to register their .xxx domain will belong to a more responsible group of adult webmasters. They will have a well funded, well respected organization to speak on their behalf as well as an established set of responsible business practices to live up to,? Hendeles said.

IFFOR will have a seven-person board of directors, some from the online adult industry, and will run without government interference.

?This approach demonstrates that voluntary initiatives that harness the power of technology and the self-organizing principles of the Internet are preferable to efforts that would impose top-down command-and-control regulation,? said Robert Corn-Revere, a partner at Davis Wright Tremaine, LLP and outside counsel to ICM Registry. ?Individuals should be able to use these tools to make their own decisions about what to read or watch, and not have those choices imposed by governments. In this regard, creation of a voluntary .xxx domain is a step in the right direction.?
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:50 PM   #2
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:52 PM   #4
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wow, can you imagine the rush for registering those fuckers?

i mean, .org .net and shit are cool and all....but .xxx just sounds fucking cool
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Fuck those nazis, my beautiful porn will not be sent to the camps.
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and I say this as long as it stays voluntary....
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I hope they give .com owners first right of refusal on the .xxx extension.

Otherwise there isn't much point in migrating your sites over to the .xxx
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Yea - i dont want to have to snag up my domains in .xxx

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and I say this as long as it stays voluntary....
Meh, it'll start voulentary, but eventually they'll mandate it or make non-.xxx webmasters jump through age verification hoops or something like that, knowing the current administration.

The most successful attacks on freedoms are always step-by-step.
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.xxx What a great way to segragate the adult internet and allow ISPs to block access to anything .xxx
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yep.....thats very bad

if it goes thru it will be 1 hell of a rush of webmasters trying to get 1 word and 2 word porn keywords registered
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.xxx What a great way to segragate the adult internet and allow ISPs to block access to anything .xxx
Yes an many people will switch to different ISPs as soon as thy ban .xxx sites if that's the only domain adult sites are allowed to use. There are many people who use the web mainly for porn. Sure they use it for other things, but if they aren't getting porn then they aren't going to want to shell out $40-$50 a month just for access to espn.com and weather.com
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Yes an many people will switch to different ISPs as soon as thy ban .xxx sites if that's the only domain adult sites are allowed to use. There are many people who use the web mainly for porn. Sure they use it for other things, but if they aren't getting porn then they aren't going to want to shell out $40-$50 a month just for access to espn.com and weather.com
I can see people keeping the .com domains for their porn. Which just means if an ISP blocks .xxx. The .com pornsite owners just get more and more traffic
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If this goes through, the squatting will be crazy......I hope to get in at a good time
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trust me .xxx becomes a reality expect a law within a year making us give up our .com's THis is so bad ,how anyone in this industry can support this is beyond crazy
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I can see people keeping the .com domains for their porn. Which just means if an ISP blocks .xxx. The .com pornsite owners just get more and more traffic
I'm talking about if all adult sites HAD to be a .xxx.

Like I said many people would either be changing providers or dropping internet all together.
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Also Does Avn support this ? If so we should stop supporting them
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Also Does Avn support this ? If so we should stop supporting them
AVN reports the news and throws trade events, we're required to remain objective, not pick a side.
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Like you didnt take a stand on sexyoutdoorsports?

Thats a fucking lowlife cop out Aly and everyone of you fuckers at AVN knows it.

AVN has waffled back and forth on this issue supporting it when the slimebags at ICMRegistry promised AVN money from each registration for their support (via the FSC) the FSC wisely chose not to support .xxx and Im thinking more and more that Bill was fired for it.

AVN needs to quit being for sale to the highest bidder and take a stand for some reason other than a bribe
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Like you didnt take a stand on sexyoutdoorsports?

Thats a fucking lowlife cop out Aly and everyone of you fuckers at AVN knows it.

AVN has waffled back and forth on this issue supporting it when the slimebags at ICMRegistry promised AVN money from each registration for their support (via the FSC) the FSC wisely chose not to support .xxx and Im thinking more and more that Bill was fired for it.

AVN needs to quit being for sale to the highest bidder and take a stand for some reason other than a bribe
Thanks for your opinion Mike. I promise to pass it on.

I've never been called a lowlife fucker before... Guess there's a first time for everything.
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.xxx is only being heavily pushed by individuals who 'own' quality word / keyword phrases already, and of course the ones who started the .xxx registry.

There's no way they can force anyone to switch all adult sites over to .xxx otherwise there would be lawsuites galore.

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I didnt call YOU anything

You know as well as I that your editorial policy on this issue SUCKS

personally I prolly like you but you are speaking for AVN and I am speaking TO AVN
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I didnt call YOU anything

You know as well as I that your editorial policy on this issue SUCKS

personally I prolly like you but you are speaking for AVN and I am speaking TO AVN
That's cool Mike. And I really do promise to pass this on. Thanks!
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anyone see this an an issue from an SEO point of view? won't .XXX generally be excluded by default through all the major search engines. I can see the benefits of .XXX for surfers (both customers and non) but let me quell some of the fears:

Will all my sites be forced into .XXX and my .com's taken away
No. .XXX is voluntary and will remain so.

Do you know how many .com's are registered? It would be impossible to police all domains for whatever they decree adult content.

Also, ICANN works as an international body; although as with most international panels America has alot of influence, it does not control everything. ICANN has stood up for what it believes in before and it will again. ICANN appoints members of the committee, most of them are just regular (albeit very knowledgable) web users so they aren't in it for the money. I know a couple of the guys and they aren't in it for anything other than to further the development of the internet.
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.xxx is extremely bad news for the industy and for anyone who supports free speech.

How long until the right wing starts pushing to make it mandatory?

The people running this are no friends of the adult industry, either.
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.xxx is extremely bad news for the industy and for anyone who supports free speech.

How long until the right wing starts pushing to make it mandatory?

The people running this are no friends of the adult industry, either.
Simple if it's so bad NOBODY buy any .XXX domains and they'll go out of business.
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That quote isn't quite presented correctly, Baddog...

?It took us three years to get the support of the industry and the free speech groups. We had to deal with parents and children?s groups that have their own issues. Obviously, we had to deal with trademark and free speech groups to make sure they are both secure and protected,? Jason Hendeles, vice president of strategic business development for ICM Registry, told AVNOnline.com.

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That quote isn't quite presented correctly, Baddog...

?It took us three years to get the support of the industry and the free speech groups. We had to deal with parents and children?s groups that have their own issues. Obviously, we had to deal with trademark and free speech groups to make sure they are both secure and protected,? Jason Hendeles, vice president of strategic business development for ICM Registry, told AVNOnline.com.

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Which free speech groups supported this?
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let me guess after Bill was ousted the good old Free Screech Cabal reversed it's position and chose to take the money (8.00 per sale of every domain)

If that's true I am so going to make sure everyone in this biz knows that AVN and the FSC sold us out.
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i wonder how icann will handle all the people that already have .xxx domains....will they get to keep them, because after all, those were privately registered and nothing to do with this new .xxx proposal
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let me guess after Bill was ousted the good old Free Screech Cabal reversed it's position and chose to take the money (8.00 per sale of every domain)

If that's true I am so going to make sure everyone in this biz knows that AVN and the FSC sold us out.
I just discussed this with Paul, Mike, and he strongly disagrees with what you're saying. You two should chat.
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let me guess after Bill was ousted the good old Free Screech Cabal reversed it's position and chose to take the money (8.00 per sale of every domain)

If that's true I am so going to make sure everyone in this biz knows that AVN and the FSC sold us out.
I thought the FSC voted "no" and moved on to other things.

Does anyone know what the current FSC position on this is?
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i wonder how icann will handle all the people that already have .xxx domains....will they get to keep them, because after all, those were privately registered and nothing to do with this new .xxx proposal
The current .XXX software links have no validity in a TLD. They were never a TLD and only worked with some proprietary software.
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That quote isn't quite presented correctly, Baddog...

?It took us three years to get the support of the industry and the free speech groups. We had to deal with parents and children?s groups that have their own issues. Obviously, we had to deal with trademark and free speech groups to make sure they are both secure and protected,? Jason Hendeles, vice president of strategic business development for ICM Registry, told AVNOnline.com.

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I do not know whether some free speech groups supported the idea or not. I just had not heard that the adult industry did . . . or were they talking about some other industry?
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Maybe they meant that the censorship industry supported .xxx, not the adult industry?
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Anyone know whats going to happen with current .xxx-registrations through new.net?
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The current .XXX software links have no validity in a TLD. They were never a TLD and only worked with some proprietary software.
Maybe ICANN will give those registrars a priority, as alot of people already got .xxx domains, but my guess is it will start off clean.
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Like you didnt take a stand on sexyoutdoorsports?

Thats a fucking lowlife cop out Aly and everyone of you fuckers at AVN knows it.

AVN has waffled back and forth on this issue supporting it when the slimebags at ICMRegistry promised AVN money from each registration for their support (via the FSC) the FSC wisely chose not to support .xxx and Im thinking more and more that Bill was fired for it.

AVN needs to quit being for sale to the highest bidder and take a stand for some reason other than a bribe


Mike you hit the nail on the head-
There is a lot more to this story....
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:45 PM   #47
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Some excellent, constructive points from Connor at YNOT here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=475347

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well if it does, I'm ready!
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:59 PM   #49
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AVN reports the news and throws trade events, we're required to remain objective, not pick a side.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

When you get the news wrong, you call yourselves a TRADE MAGAZINE

When you get the stories right you are a NEWS ORGANIZATION-

Sounds like AVN is schizophrenic, they have two personalities- just like most of the people who work there.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

When you get the news wrong, you call yourselves a TRADE MAGAZINE

When you get the stories right you are a NEWS ORGANIZATION-

Sounds like AVN is schizophrenic, they have two personalities- just like most of the people who work there.

This really isn't very complicated, KB. Try and follow along:

AVN runs Adult Business-to-Business publications and events. It is neither solely one nor the other. This is not an unusual business model. It's quite common actually.
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