I just saw THE DOWNFALL... best WW2 movie ever. - GoFuckYourself.com

Frile · 06-04-2005, 11:10 PM

I just finished The Downfall

http://www.downfallthefilm.com/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/

And i can say without hesitation it's one of the best ww2 historic film i ever saw. Amazing acting, specially Bruno Ganz as Hitler as well as unbelievable wardrobe, they reproduced to the minimal detail everything related to the deployed wehrmacht, SS, SA, luftwaffe, HJ units in Berlin, april 1945.

If you like history (specially ww2) a must see.

NTSS · 06-04-2005, 11:13 PM

I love old war movies. Thanks I'll check it out

Frile · 06-04-2005, 11:16 PM

This one it's new, from late 2004... it's shocking because it's the first movie about Hitler made by Germany, and a quite objective one. Also, since it's spoken in german the atmosfere of the time it's greatly improved.

Shoplifter · 06-05-2005, 01:12 AM

I saw it in the theatre a couple months ago. It's a must see.

Should be out on DVD soon.

Paul Markham · 06-05-2005, 01:48 AM

I got it ordered on DVD.

Frile · 06-05-2005, 05:40 PM

Couldn't help it and i just saw it again lol

Sosa · 06-05-2005, 05:53 PM

I will have to check it out. I love war movies

nico-t · 06-05-2005, 05:54 PM

its pretty good

onlyreal · 06-05-2005, 06:48 PM

it is not good

if you really want to see real ww2 movie

there is two movie

1-)The Longest Day(best movie ever)
2-)Tora Tora

Rob · 06-05-2005, 06:49 PM

Better than Private Ryan or Band of Brothers? If so, I'm going out to get it right now and it's 9:46 P.M. here!

I'm a huge history buff. from 1900 on, I know it all.

Rob · 06-05-2005, 06:51 PM

Damn, great reviews and it's a foreign film. I have to get this movie. Thanks for the heads up.

Kevsh · 06-05-2005, 06:52 PM

I'll check it ou.
As for other war films not yet mentioned, try Das Boot (The Boat), easily one of the best ever.

sniperwolf · 06-05-2005, 07:45 PM

i like seeing a piece of history.. Must see this one..thanks

Wiggles · 06-05-2005, 08:18 PM

i watched the original with english subs, fucking amazing movie!

directfiesta · 06-05-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Damn, great reviews and it's a foreign film. I have to get this movie. Thanks for the heads up.

Saw it a few months ago in the theatre....

Worth every minute.

But those looking for the John Wayne USA Rules war movie, well it is not about the USA but about the final days of the 3rd Reich...So you better wait for the movoie " Operation Freedom " soon playing near you.

reynold · 06-05-2005, 10:14 PM

Nothing Beats Saving Private Ryan...

INever · 06-05-2005, 10:30 PM

The Downfall shows what it is like to lose a war and your own nation because of one sick, dumb, mean and crazy fuck.

thewebgarage · 06-05-2005, 11:13 PM

as good as private ryan is my take

Red Ezra · 06-06-2005, 02:14 AM

the best WWII movie you will ever jerk off too i smy movie hearts & minds - check it out history buffs and let me know whatcha think...

hornycash · 06-06-2005, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Better than Private Ryan or Band of Brothers?

yes, it shows the reality and not only 90 minutes of us patriotism

Frile · 06-10-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyreal

it is not good

if you really want to see real ww2 movie

there is two movie

1-)The Longest Day(best movie ever)
2-)Tora Tora

Why you say it's not good? I would like to know. I'm a big history fan and this movie was awesome, never saw so many details put into a ww2 film...

those 2 movies are very good too, specially "tora tora tora" (you missed one)

DesignWise · 06-10-2005, 01:15 PM

great! thanks for the link man...

TTiger · 06-10-2005, 01:24 PM

try hitler : the rise of evil
a classic
http://www.cbs.com/specials/rise_of_evil/

FilthyRob · 06-10-2005, 01:25 PM

Looks good

Trax · 06-10-2005, 01:26 PM

i agree that this movie is amazing
it should have gotten the oscar for best international movie for sure

i recommend everyone to watch that one... it was well worth the money i spent (unlike other movies i've seen in the past weeks grrr)

loverboy · 06-10-2005, 01:45 PM

my second best actually
my vote goes to "The Band of Brothers"

Libertine · 06-10-2005, 01:49 PM

Crappy movie. The story is too long-winded in all the wrong places and the acting is mediocre and unconvincing. Overall, it's simplistic and dull.

Frile · 06-10-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Crappy movie. The story is too long-winded in all the wrong places and the acting is mediocre and unconvincing. Overall, it's simplistic and dull.

mmm, acting it's not mediocre, and for christ sake, unconvincing? Right... im sure it was going to be more convincing if Hitler spoke in english right? Give me a brake... the atmosphere was exactly the same as in that time, not even mention the fact of spoken german. If you pay attention and if you know a thing or two about history, you will notice the filmmakers even reproduced the exact front of the german Chancellory... quite amazing if you consider the actual building was demolished in 1945...

directfiesta · 06-10-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Crappy movie. The story is too long-winded in all the wrong places and the acting is mediocre and unconvincing. Overall, it's simplistic and dull.

LOL... get the John Wayne "Rangers" one... that should fit you like a glove...

xclusive · 06-10-2005, 03:31 PM

thanks for the heads up i love history

Libertine · 06-10-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frile

mmm, acting it's not mediocre, and for christ sake, unconvincing? Right... im sure it was going to be more convincing if Hitler spoke in english right? Give me a brake... the atmosphere was exactly the same as in that time, not even mention the fact of spoken german. If you pay attention and if you know a thing or two about history, you will notice the filmmakers even reproduced the exact front of the german Chancellory... quite amazing if you consider the actual building was demolished in 1945...

The problem with most people is that they see too few good movies to understand that the mere facts that a movie is in another language than English and that it happens to give a view of events that isn't entirely black and white are enough to make you believe the movie is a good one.
I do not consider this movie a bad one because it tries to give a somewhat balanced view and attempts to be historically accurate, but rather because it fails in its attempts to bring the situation to life in a believable way.

In Der Untergang the acting is wooden, for the most part. The people act like they are acting, not like they are really living. The actor playing Hitler, for example, loses himself in - admittedly accurate - detail and thereby loses the life of the character.

Or look at Traudl. Der Untergang takes her memories as entirely true and correct, not biased in any way. It fails to take into account the obvious fact that the memories of a woman in her early twenties in such a time and place will be greatly distorted afterwards.

Ultimately, this movie fails to achieve its goal because WWII is still too fresh, too near to depict in an objective, vivid way. Historical accuracy and detail are not enough to create a good movie, and depicting Hitler as a man instead of a pure monster is little more significant than pointing out that grass is green.

Violetta · 06-10-2005, 04:02 PM

thanks for the tip. Will check it out!

Libertine · 06-10-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

LOL... get the John Wayne "Rangers" one... that should fit you like a glove...

Would that your mother had chosen abortion. The world would be a better place for it, a more intelligent one if nothing else.

wedouglas · 06-10-2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah, saw it a while back. Bruno Ganz war sehr gut.

Libertine · 06-10-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

The problem with most people is that they see too few good movies to understand that the mere facts that a movie is in another language than English and that it happens to give a view of events that isn't entirely black and white are enough to make you believe the movie is a good one.

That should be:

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkworld

The problem with most people is that they see too few good movies to understand that the mere facts that a movie is in another language than English and that it happens to give a view of events that isn't entirely black and white aren't enough to make it a good movie.

Typing while drinking is bad.

nico-t · 06-10-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frile

Why you say it's not good? I would like to know. I'm a big history fan and this movie was awesome, never saw so many details put into a ww2 film...

those 2 movies are very good too, specially "tora tora tora" (you missed one)

yeah theyre good if u like stiff acting work and have got 15 hours of spare time

nico-t · 06-10-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TTiger

try hitler : the rise of evil
a classic
http://www.cbs.com/specials/rise_of_evil/

i saw this one too, though its not as intense as der untergang.
Its also in english, maybe thats why it doesnt give the realistic feeling of der untergang, plus it displays hitler too much as an caricature. But it was a good flick.

directfiesta · 06-10-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Would that your mother had chosen abortion. The world would be a better place for it, a more intelligent one if nothing else.

Since she didn't, I must consider myself lucky to not be YOU.

Got a good movie for you :

taibo · 06-10-2005, 06:29 PM

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06-04-2005, 11:10 PM	#1
Frile Spam me with dialer programs Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 196	I just saw THE DOWNFALL... best WW2 movie ever. I just finished The Downfall http://www.downfallthefilm.com/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/ And i can say without hesitation it's one of the best ww2 historic film i ever saw. Amazing acting, specially Bruno Ganz as Hitler as well as unbelievable wardrobe, they reproduced to the minimal detail everything related to the deployed wehrmacht, SS, SA, luftwaffe, HJ units in Berlin, april 1945. If you like history (specially ww2) a must see.

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Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,724	I saw it in the theatre a couple months ago. It's a must see. Should be out on DVD soon.

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Frile Spam me with dialer programs Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 196	Couldn't help it and i just saw it again lol

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onlyreal Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 853	it is not good if you really want to see real ww2 movie there is two movie 1-)The Longest Day(best movie ever) 2-)Tora Tora

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	i agree that this movie is amazing it should have gotten the oscar for best international movie for sure i recommend everyone to watch that one... it was well worth the money i spent (unlike other movies i've seen in the past weeks grrr)

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