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Jensen · 06-10-2005, 09:50 AM

I've been buying bets from http://www.atsbets.com about a year and I'm doing pretty good. I'm currently buying from 2 of the experts but looking to spread my risk further. Would anyone be interresting in sharing the costs of profitable bets?

Last 30 days from their 8 experts:
name - win - loss - hit% - profit

Jack Pappano 62 - 20 (75%) +50.6 units
Rodney Whitehurst 52 - 24 (68%) +26.1 units
Red Hansen 45 - 31 (59%) +14.9 units
Peter Schoenke 38 - 36 (51%) +9.6 units
JB Floyd 39 - 31 (55%) +7.9 units
Mike Harmon 40 - 36 (52%) +2.7 units
Jimmy Toliver 39 - 45 (46%) -5.2 units
Roger Pitzer 36 - 48 (42%) -16.2 units

Total: 351-271 (56%) +90.4 units

Aka if you for instance staked $100 per bet you would have profited $100 x 90.4 units = a profit of $9040 during that 30 day period...

Cost for all of them with a discount would be around $4500 a month total so would be cool with a small group to share the cost and profit with. Any takers?

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Ordo · 06-10-2005, 09:51 AM

So your saying, I put up $100 and I make $9,000 in a month?

Or your saying $100 a day for 30 days?

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 09:54 AM

it's not that easy no

I'm looking for partners that are willing to share the total cost of $4500 a month.. after that you have to stake an amount per bet..

$100 was a random number to illustrate how well they are doing.. you could bet $1 per match or $10000, that would be none of my business..

JJ Gold · 06-10-2005, 10:17 AM

Nobody and I mean NOBODY can hit over 70% in sports betting over the long term. Everything returns to the mean.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 10:20 AM

couldn't agree with you more JJ Gold.. thats why they have an average of 56% total last 30 days as you can see above..

JJ Gold · 06-10-2005, 10:23 AM

Jensen.....good deal. I am not familiar with these guys but I am very wary of all touts. It basically comes down to the fact that if they could pick winners consistently they would be better off to bang the games themselves as opposed to selling the plays.

Best of luck to you.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 10:31 AM

JJ Gold - thanx... I don't fully agree with you on your logics thought. If they could pick winners consistently, why wouldn't they sell their bets after they have made the bets themselves? Extra cash for them.

Course, there are cheaters all over the place and I'm not going to act like I haven't been fucked before. Couple of years ago I paid a tout $4000 for the MLB season and he did a runner. So now I prefer to pay monitoringsites like ATSBets since they act as a broker and keeps the records updated fair and square.

JJ Gold · 06-10-2005, 10:35 AM

I wish you luck Jensen. It has just been my experience that most of these touts do not even play their own selections. Many give out both sides of the game and then are certain to have some happy customers. I will look at the ats website and check it out.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 10:40 AM

let me know if you like it JJ .. seemes like you've been burned in the past aswell :/

Bigdogg · 06-10-2005, 10:59 AM

I've lost more money when paying for tips then I did when I picked games myself. And god forbid they have a winning week, cuz they are like Vultures asking for more money every fuckn time..

tranza · 06-10-2005, 11:06 AM

I rather bet on the stock market....

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 11:09 AM

Bigdogg: seemes like you've been burned yourself.. time to check out monitoringservices like usasportsmonitor.net or the one I'm using, atsbets.com

DeezNutz · 06-10-2005, 11:13 AM

Touts are bullshit. Biggdogg nailed it. They give out two sides, retain some customers, and ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS ask for more after you get some winners. If you don't bet your house on the big game they win, the day after they call you a pussy and say "I guaranteed it it's not my fault you didn't bet big." They are all bullshit. And I WAS in a very paralell biz, so I know what goes on.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 11:18 AM

DeezNutz: read what I've written... do you think I would recommend such a service on GFY? Get serious...

Matt M · 06-10-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Touts are bullshit. Biggdogg nailed it. They give out two sides, retain some customers, and ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS ask for more after you get some winners. If you don't bet your house on the big game they win, the day after they call you a pussy and say "I guaranteed it it's not my fault you didn't bet big." They are all bullshit. And I WAS in a very paralell biz, so I know what goes on.

Couldn't agree more. I did some web development for a major handycapper in Vegas, and let me tell you what. I saw everything that goes on behind the sceens. The "pro handycappers" never bet on the games that they picked,and hardly bet at all personnally(interesting huh). Noone ever averaged higher then 52%, and once you take away the vig, you are loosing 6% a month no matter how good you think you are doing. The only people that make money, are the ones that are selling their "pics". Think about that for a sec.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 11:26 AM

Matt M: for the love of... please read what I'm actually writing above. This is why i'm using monitoring sites...

Matt M · 06-10-2005, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

Matt M: for the love of... please read what I'm actually writing above. This is why i'm using monitoring sites...

I did,and I understand the differences. Not pointing fingers at you at all,or saying you are an idiot. I was just getting cought up in the conversation of the thread.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 11:34 AM

Matt M: ok sorry about that.. just got a bit frustrated as I bet there is a lot of people that don't know the difference..

Matt M · 06-10-2005, 11:36 AM

Not a problem Jensen. See what happens when you pick such a hot topic to discuss.

Jensen · 06-10-2005, 11:38 AM

guess so Matt M

Violetta · 06-10-2005, 02:49 PM

4500 is alot! Good luck on your search for "partners"

06-10-2005, 09:50 AM	#1
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	Want to make a killing on sports? I've been buying bets from http://www.atsbets.com about a year and I'm doing pretty good. I'm currently buying from 2 of the experts but looking to spread my risk further. Would anyone be interresting in sharing the costs of profitable bets? Last 30 days from their 8 experts: name - win - loss - hit% - profit Jack Pappano 62 - 20 (75%) +50.6 units Rodney Whitehurst 52 - 24 (68%) +26.1 units Red Hansen 45 - 31 (59%) +14.9 units Peter Schoenke 38 - 36 (51%) +9.6 units JB Floyd 39 - 31 (55%) +7.9 units Mike Harmon 40 - 36 (52%) +2.7 units Jimmy Toliver 39 - 45 (46%) -5.2 units Roger Pitzer 36 - 48 (42%) -16.2 units Total: 351-271 (56%) +90.4 units Aka if you for instance staked $100 per bet you would have profited $100 x 90.4 units = a profit of $9040 during that 30 day period... Cost for all of them with a discount would be around $4500 a month total so would be cool with a small group to share the cost and profit with. Any takers? admin \| at \| unrealbank \| dot \| com

06-10-2005, 09:51 AM	#2
Ordo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,186	So your saying, I put up $100 and I make $9,000 in a month? Or your saying $100 a day for 30 days? __________________ Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

06-10-2005, 10:59 AM	#10
Bigdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Six1Nine Posts: 892	I've lost more money when paying for tips then I did when I picked games myself. And god forbid they have a winning week, cuz they are like Vultures asking for more money every fuckn time.. __________________ FTP

06-10-2005, 11:06 AM	#11
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I rather bet on the stock market.... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-10-2005, 11:36 AM	#19
Matt M Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Beach Posts: 738	Not a problem Jensen. See what happens when you pick such a hot topic to discuss. __________________ No Thanks, I have my own...... ICQ: 156837862

06-10-2005, 09:54 AM	#3
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	it's not that easy no I'm looking for partners that are willing to share the total cost of $4500 a month.. after that you have to stake an amount per bet.. $100 was a random number to illustrate how well they are doing.. you could bet $1 per match or $10000, that would be none of my business..

06-10-2005, 10:17 AM	#4
JJ Gold Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,969	Nobody and I mean NOBODY can hit over 70% in sports betting over the long term. Everything returns to the mean.

06-10-2005, 10:20 AM	#5
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	couldn't agree with you more JJ Gold.. thats why they have an average of 56% total last 30 days as you can see above..

06-10-2005, 10:23 AM	#6
JJ Gold Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,969	Jensen.....good deal. I am not familiar with these guys but I am very wary of all touts. It basically comes down to the fact that if they could pick winners consistently they would be better off to bang the games themselves as opposed to selling the plays. Best of luck to you.

06-10-2005, 10:31 AM	#7
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	JJ Gold - thanx... I don't fully agree with you on your logics thought. If they could pick winners consistently, why wouldn't they sell their bets after they have made the bets themselves? Extra cash for them. Course, there are cheaters all over the place and I'm not going to act like I haven't been fucked before. Couple of years ago I paid a tout $4000 for the MLB season and he did a runner. So now I prefer to pay monitoringsites like ATSBets since they act as a broker and keeps the records updated fair and square.

06-10-2005, 10:35 AM	#8
JJ Gold Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,969	I wish you luck Jensen. It has just been my experience that most of these touts do not even play their own selections. Many give out both sides of the game and then are certain to have some happy customers. I will look at the ats website and check it out.

06-10-2005, 10:40 AM	#9
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	let me know if you like it JJ .. seemes like you've been burned in the past aswell :/

06-10-2005, 11:09 AM	#12
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	Bigdogg: seemes like you've been burned yourself.. time to check out monitoringservices like usasportsmonitor.net or the one I'm using, atsbets.com

06-10-2005, 11:13 AM	#13
DeezNutz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 12	Touts are bullshit. Biggdogg nailed it. They give out two sides, retain some customers, and ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS ask for more after you get some winners. If you don't bet your house on the big game they win, the day after they call you a pussy and say "I guaranteed it it's not my fault you didn't bet big." They are all bullshit. And I WAS in a very paralell biz, so I know what goes on.

06-10-2005, 11:18 AM	#14
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	DeezNutz: read what I've written... do you think I would recommend such a service on GFY? Get serious...

06-10-2005, 11:26 AM	#16
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	Matt M: for the love of... please read what I'm actually writing above. This is why i'm using monitoring sites...

06-10-2005, 11:34 AM	#18
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	Matt M: ok sorry about that.. just got a bit frustrated as I bet there is a lot of people that don't know the difference..

06-10-2005, 11:38 AM	#20
Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	guess so Matt M

06-10-2005, 02:49 PM	#21
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	4500 is alot! Good luck on your search for "partners" __________________ M&A Queen