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Old 06-18-2005, 04:47 PM   #1
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Has anybody ever tried these poker cheats?

This guy was beating my ass at Multipoker and then we got to talking...I was trying to take his mind off the game.

He told me to go to http://www.cheat-poker.net/

Was he kicking my ass because I suck or becuase he was cheating? Maybe both.

Anyways, has anybody bought an eBook like this or is it a scame?

Thanks Yall
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:53 PM   #2
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:54 PM   #3
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quick plug. if anyone wants to buy secretpokertricks.com hit me up. will sell cheap

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Old 06-18-2005, 04:55 PM   #4
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buy it... and then let me know when you are ready and we can play heads up!!
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:56 PM   #5
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quick plug. if anyone wants to buy secretpokertricks.com hit me up. will sell cheap

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anyways, back to my post..
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:57 PM   #6
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I seriously doubt if someone was really cheating he would reveal it to you.
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:57 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure it was because you used that website cause look:

Here is a Preview of just a few of the "Cheat Poker Secrets"
* "Visual X-ray Technique" - Actually see what cards your opponents are holding... every hand!
* "The Perpetual Bot" - Discover how to get your hands on an online poker bots that wins thousands.
* "Buddy Eye System" - Like having 6 sets of eyes at any table you want to play at.
* "Mind Control Tricks" - Learn to force your opponent into doing whatever you desire.
* "And Many More..."
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Old 06-18-2005, 04:58 PM   #8
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Looks good, but it does seem to good to be true.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:01 PM   #9
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:02 PM   #10
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I'm pretty sure it was because you used that website cause look:

Here is a Preview of just a few of the "Cheat Poker Secrets"
* "Visual X-ray Technique" - Actually see what cards your opponents are holding... every hand!
* "The Perpetual Bot" - Discover how to get your hands on an online poker bots that wins thousands.
* "Buddy Eye System" - Like having 6 sets of eyes at any table you want to play at.
* "Mind Control Tricks" - Learn to force your opponent into doing whatever you desire.
* "And Many More..."

How gullible are you people? If someone was able to do that shit why in the fuck would they start selling the info? They would make a hell of a lot more money using it and keeping it a secret rather than making a site, trying to promote the site and all the other shit involved. Wake up.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:03 PM   #11
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:04 PM   #12
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I wonder if that partypoker table showing all the cards is hours of photoshop.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:06 PM   #13
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I wonder if that partypoker table showing all the cards is hours of photoshop.

Of course it is. Look at this statement from the site:

"IN MY FIRST TWO WEEKS I MADE OVER $10,000!"

If you were able to see everyones cards you would make $10,000 in less than an hour. Someone should buy it and see what it really does and once you find out its a scam post all the shit on here and do a chargeback.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:07 PM   #14
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lol...a few people wanna go in on it with me? I'm curious as to what it is but don't wanna pay $50 for bullshit
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:08 PM   #15
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lol...a few people wanna go in on it with me? I'm curious as to what it is but don't wanna pay $50 for bullshit
I was going to ask the same

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Old 06-18-2005, 05:09 PM   #16
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Ill put in $10. Ill send you the money via PayPal. You can email me the download link...icq# 253-800-208 If you do a charge back keep my money
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:10 PM   #17
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:10 PM   #19
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Ill put in $10. Ill send you the money via PayPal. You can email me the download link...icq# 253-800-208 If you do a charge back keep my money
cool..I'll ICQ you when at least a couple of more people are in
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:12 PM   #20
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From what I understand, online poker sites do not send you the data about the other player's cards until the showdown to prevent things of this nature from happening.

The best way to beat online poker is to just get good. There's so many bad players out there, if you can't make money doing this, you're doing something wrong.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:14 PM   #21
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poker bots do work. if you can make an algorithm that generates $1-$2 a day. you can make some bank. there are people that do this. it's not easy, and people sell their algorithms for thousands of dollars. it takes a lot of patience, money to blow, and time. your bot will need to see thousands upon thousands of hands before you know it's solid to run on hundreds of servers.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:22 PM   #22
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I'll put $10 in just to see what this is, but I still think its bullshit. He says "Then it hit me, while Internet casino security is state of the art and virtually impenetrable, other peoples computers that were playing on these sites were hardly protected, if at all".

So he would have to have some sort of spyware, but you wouldnt even know the persons IP address or anything else about the person you were playing. I think he's playing on peoples greed.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:26 PM   #23
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I'll put $10 in just to see what this is, but I still think its bullshit. He says "Then it hit me, while Internet casino security is state of the art and virtually impenetrable, other peoples computers that were playing on these sites were hardly protected, if at all".

So he would have to have some sort of spyware, but you wouldnt even know the persons IP address or anything else about the person you were playing. I think he's playing on peoples greed.

Well, I will give you a full report. If its complete bullshit then I will share it with the world...
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:27 PM   #24
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poker bots do work. if you can make an algorithm that generates $1-$2 a day. you can make some bank. there are people that do this. it's not easy, and people sell their algorithms for thousands of dollars. it takes a lot of patience, money to blow, and time. your bot will need to see thousands upon thousands of hands before you know it's solid to run on hundreds of servers.

Id much rather "pitch in" on something like this then the ebook..heh
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:28 PM   #25
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Here's what they say about cheating on http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/cheating.php

Some people worry about hackers. It's been many, many years since the last major instance of hacking affected anyone wagering money in an online Hold 'Em game. Since then we've had breakthroughs like the SSLv3/TLSv1 encryption algorithm and multi-layered random number sequencers. Not only do we have these very technical advances, but all the ones you would expect in a real casino.

The most common form of online cheating is player collusion. That's when two or more players reveal to each other what cards they hold. This form is more difficult to pull off in a live game, but playing online gives players the chance to have a fellow player on the phone with them, or sitting next to them at another computer.

Fortunately most of these players are the ones who have no idea how to use that advantage. These two must coordinate well together, which takes practice. Online poker rooms not only look for telltale signs of collusion, but check to see if two players always play at the same table together. They would have to use "hit and run" tactics when using this form of cheating. Colluding players would have to hit up a high-limit table, then flee to another online poker room with their winnings and never look back.

To make a long story short, it is barely worth it to try it. But just in case, here are some things to look for...

1. A team of players who try to "steamroll" other players out of the game. This means reraising each other to make non-colluding players call multiple bets at once.

2. Players who never play fast pre-flop. That's the time to talk about what they hold. Watch whoever is under the gun and be mindful of reaction time.

3. A group of players who hike up bets by reraising with someone in between them. This gets the maximum amount of bets out of a third party. The alarm should really go off if one of those reraising players has a piss poor hand, or if one of them folds with one bet to go despite a massive pot. There's a time to bluff and a time to fold and most people have an idea when that is, so be on the lookout for players who exercise horrible judgement like that. Identify that person as a potential goldmine for yourself or a potential cheater.

Once again, it's VERY rare for someone to even attempt these sort of things. Still, never accuse anyone of cheating. Either contact the poker room's administrators or just get up and leave. Poker rooms like PacificPoker have around 45 or 55 tables going on at once, so you have options.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:40 PM   #26
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I just got my hands on the ebook....its total bullshit. Do you hear that? Its the sound of a charge back! This bastard sells other shit in his ebook.
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I just got my hands on the ebook....its total bullshit. Do you hear that? Its the sound of a charge back! This bastard sells other shit in his ebook.

What type of stuff does it say?
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:45 PM   #28
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Worst photoshop EVER. The bottom of every opponents cards are cut LOL the only cards that are properly there are the ones that belong to the player.

$49.95 is a perfect price point. Cheap enough for suckers to cough up their money.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:49 PM   #29
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ok. whats it say?
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:52 PM   #30
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http://www.winholdem.net/

check out that program. study up, check out the various formulas posted in the forums. spend hours, days, weeks, months, creating a formula and putting it through hands. it only needs to generate a couple bucks a day, hour, whatever you set your goal for. once your formula has been proven to bring in positive cashflow while being left unattended for weeks at a time, get some partners (yer gonna need a lot of accounts at as many online poker rooms as possible), start loading your bots onto servers. run as many tables and corresponding bot instances as you can on every server. hire someone to monitor them.

i've only dabbled in this, i'm no expert. but there are people running some serious operations, making some serious bank off online poker. maybe not with this program, but it's a start.
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C'mon man, just post the jist of it here. If the guy on the table told you to use it he obviously owns the site and scammed you from the start. Fuck him.
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:04 PM   #33
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a few of us went in on the Ebook and although I didn't learn anything earth shattering, I can say that I will have a similiar ebook for sale soon
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:16 PM   #34
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I seriously doubt if someone was really cheating he would reveal it to you.
Agreed. Most playas you have to catch them when they are down (sad as it is, like the "Gambler" song) before they will even HINT their tactics).

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I seriously doubt if someone was really cheating he would reveal it to you.
It's a damn good sales pitch though, if you're selling an eBook.
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It's a damn good sales pitch though, if you're selling an eBook.

I guess if you consider lying a good sales pitch
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so none of you poker cheats wants to play heads up??
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I went in on the ebook as well.

I see exactly how it gives you a step by step way to see the other players cards.
But it does involve some hacking and it is complicated.

As for the rest, it does give some really good information on playing better which is worth the $16 i pitched in.
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Hey guys, that fucker seems to be a hack too! I am going to publish the link here. Only for refrence. Since you did not pay for the rights to the ebook, I urge you not to click and download it. It would be wrong to click becuase your stealing from the author.

http://www.cheat-poker.net/cheatonlinepoker.pdf
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Send some money to the Nigerian govenment at the same time you purchase that Fake Ebook you'll have about the same success
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If you want a advantage check this site out http://www.poker-edge.com it was made by a few college students who run several servers that request the hand histories for every single hand played 24/7 on the party poker "network". Using this information you get a great deal of info on the player such as how ofter they see the flop, agression, what type of cards they play, how they act on the flop/turn/river call/fold/raise , what tables they play at 1/2 5/10 NL etc.. Its $20 a mth to see the higher limits but seriously i made that back in 1 hand using the information. The main feature is that it shows whos a fish(loose) and whos shark(tight) find a table with 4-6 fish and 1-2 shark, once u play a hand look whos in the pot and make your moves. One of the things i love is when you arent in a pot and ur watching a fish heads up with someone and you know exactly what hes gonna do and what cards he has. You can even see your own stats to see what ya doing wrong/right.

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How gullible are you people? If someone was able to do that shit why in the fuck would they start selling the info? They would make a hell of a lot more money using it and keeping it a secret rather than making a site, trying to promote the site and all the other shit involved. Wake up.
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An old plan never tested

Here's an idea a few of my friends and I came up with but never tested. It was stolen from the movie Rounders and I think it could be possible.

The idea was to have 6-8 people in our office go into a room that has 10 seats available. We were all in the same office together and so we would no what cards we all had. Basically, we would just muscle the 1-2 players into folding or statistically have the odds in our favor that one of us would have a good hand. We had the ability to come in from different networks so our IP's would all be different.

If anyone ever tests this and does well, please send me 40% of all winnings...
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:18 AM   #49
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HAHA!!!!


Visual X-ray Technique:

..."this program is called TightVNC and it is an absolutely amazing
program that allows you to view the desktops of other people's
computers. Thats right, other peoples computers.
You will be able to see exactly what your opponent's hole cards are!..."

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Old 06-19-2005, 04:22 AM   #50
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Here's an idea a few of my friends and I came up with but never tested. It was stolen from the movie Rounders and I think it could be possible.

The idea was to have 6-8 people in our office go into a room that has 10 seats available. We were all in the same office together and so we would no what cards we all had. Basically, we would just muscle the 1-2 players into folding or statistically have the odds in our favor that one of us would have a good hand. We had the ability to come in from different networks so our IP's would all be different.

If anyone ever tests this and does well, please send me 40% of all winnings...
It won't work because you're forgetting that the poker program also "steals" a percentage of each round. So everybody's always losing in a way.
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