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Old 08-18-2005, 12:59 AM   #1
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Mother dies after attack by 'hoodies' in city centre

A mother who was attacked by "hoodies" while she stood at a bus stop six weeks ago has died.



Tracey Cullum, 31, was with her 12-year-old son, a female friend and three other children when she was punched to the ground.

She was telling off a group of hooded youths who had pushed to the front of the queue for the No 29 bus in the centre of Birmingham when one of them hit her in the face, knocking her to the ground and breaking her ankle.

The incident is thought to have caused a blood clot to her heart, which remained undetected until she collapsed and died last Friday.

Her boyfriend, Mark Holliday, said yesterday: "I still can't believe that she has gone. She was so fantastic, so kind and bubbly, she put everyone she met at ease.

"She just drifted away from me and I didn't even get the chance to tell her I loved her. She kept whispering to me for help while she was half-conscious but there was nothing I could do.

"After the incident at the bus stop we thought this mess was all over, we were trying to get on with our lives, and then she was just taken away from us by these pieces of scum.

"These people have taken a mother away from her son, and I have lost my rock. No one can believe that we will never see her again."

Miss Cullum, a mature student, and a friend had taken their children with two school friends to a Saturday afternoon dance event in the centre of Birmingham on July 2. They were waiting at a bus stop in the Colmore Row area.

Having told some youths off, she turned round to see where her son, Ashley, was. When she turned back was punched to the ground. The thugs fled.

Miss Cullum was taken to City Hospital where she was treated for a broken ankle and minor facial injuries, then released.

Mr Holliday, 37, an engineer, said she had been fine until last Friday night when she passed out on the landing as she went to bed. She was taken to hospital but was dead on arrival.

A post mortem examination has found that she died of a coronary embolism - a blood clot to the heart.

Mr Holliday said: "I want these scumbags to be caught so that Ashley will grow up knowing that we live in a society where we don't stand for violence like this."

Police believe that there is a link between the initial assault and her subsequent death and have appealed for witnesses to the attack.

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Old 08-18-2005, 01:15 AM   #2
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those hoodies must be caught and sent to deathrow.
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Poor woman I hope they find the fucker who did it
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:24 AM   #4
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I smell a distraught child going up to a roof with a silenced .308 to mete out a little street justice in the future.



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Old 08-18-2005, 01:33 AM   #5
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those hoodies must be caught and sent to deathrow.

Cmon now lets be realistic , we dont know the details. Obviously its never proper to hit a woman , but deathrow.. ?? let me run a scenario by you..

Some kids are waiting for the bus , a mother and her kids walk up and budge in line. One of the teens say rudely "That fat-ass lady just budged in line" , so the lady turns around and says " what did you just say " and nobody says anything , then she says " it was probably you , ( pointing to a punk girl ) you should mind your elders you little heroin addicted slut before i give you a good whack like your welfare father should be doing " , when she turned around the hooded girl thumps her in the back of the head, she goes down hits the pavement..

Its obvious she wasn't beaten with the intention of killing her so murder is out the window right off the bat.

I know its easy to want to make them pay but often there are other circumstances.

i know because i have lived this story from both ends.

I had a good friend of mine with a wife and kids , get drunk and get in a fight with some guy at bar ( the guy bumped him and spilled his beer ) he challenged the guy to a fight and the guy declined so he punched him in the head, guy hit the ground hard and died instantly. 8 years .

I also had a friend of mine quite recently get in a fistfight when some people tried to crash a girlfriends party, one of the party crashers pulled out a knife and a scuffle ensued and he was stabbed in the neck and died on the way to the hospital. The guy got 3 years..

When my friend went to prison i thought it was so unfair that his wife and kid would be without a father for 8 years because of a simple mistake EVERYONE has done before.

But when my friend died recently i was equally as mad that the guy who killed him only got 3 years.. my friend will never come back and this guy only loses 3 years of his life.
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Old 08-18-2005, 05:32 AM   #6
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I smell a distraught child going up to a roof with a silenced .308 to mete out a little street justice in the future.



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Old 08-18-2005, 05:57 AM   #7
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Smokey unfortunately your scenario doesn't ring true to what happens in the U.K

'Hoodies' are truants/delinquants that have nothing better to do than make other peoples lives a misery. They go around in gangs, irritating people, stealing, causing damage to property. Simply because they have nothing better to do.

I.E - Chav

The press in Britain has recently been having fun mocking a group for which pejorative descriptions have been created such as ?non-educated delinquents? and ?the burgeoning peasant underclass?. The subjects of these derogatory descriptions are said to be set apart by ignorance, fecklessness, mindless violence and bad taste.

To illustrate the last of these, critics point to their style of dress: a love of flashy gold jewellery (hooped earrings, thick neck chains, sovereign rings and heavy bangles, which all may be lumped together under the term bling-bling); the wearing of white trainers (in what is called ?prison white?, so clean that they look new); clothes in fashionable brands with very prominent logos; and baseball caps, frequently in Burberry check, a favourite style. The women, the Daily Mail wrote recently in a characteristic burst of maidenly distaste, ?pull their shoddily dyed hair back in that ultra-tight bun known as a ?council-house facelift?, wear skirts too short for their mottled blue thighs, and expose too much of their distressingly flabby midriffs?.

This upsurge of popular distaste towards one group may be evidence for a cultural shift back towards a class-ridden British society?at least the fear that it might be so is causing some alarm in liberal circles. Critics point to the copying of the style by many younger television celebrities as a further dumbing-down of that medium. Much of the attention is due to the experience of a Web site, which was intended to be humorous but which was infiltrated by extremists who threatened to turn it into a hate site.
From a linguistic perspective the most interesting aspect is the wide variety of local names given to the type. Scots call them neds (often said to be an acronym of ?non-educated delinquents?, but that?s a folk etymology, given credence by being mentioned as fact during a debate in the Scottish parliament in 2003; it?s actually from an abridged form of the given name Edward, which was attached to this group in the period of the teddy-boys, who dressed in a version of Edwardian costume), while Liverpudlians prefer scallies (a term of long-standing for a boisterous, disruptive or irresponsible young man); Kev is common around London (presumably from the given name Kevin, common among this group and popularised through the portrayal on his television show by the comedian Harry Enfield of an idiotic teenager with that name). Other terms recorded from various parts of the country are smicks, spides, moakes and steeks (all from Belfast), plus bazzas, scuffheads, stigs, skangers, yarcos, and kappa slappers (girls who wear Kappa brand tracksuits, slapper being British slang for a promiscuous or vulgar woman).
The term that has become especially widely known in recent weeks, at least in southern England, is the one borrowed for the name of the Web site, chav. A writer in the Independent thought it derived from the name of the town of Chatham in Kent, where the term is best known and probably originated. It is also commonly said that it's an acronym, either from ?Council House And Violent? or ?Cheltenham Average? (the word being widely known in that area). As usual, we must treat supposed acronymic origins with the greatest suspicion; these examples are definitely recent after-the-event inventions as attempts to explain the word, though very widely known and believed.
But it seems that the word is from a much older underclass, the gypsies, many of whom have lived in that area for generations. Chav is almost certainly from the Romany word for a child, chavi, recorded from the middle of the nineteenth century. We know it was being used as a term of address to an adult man a little later in the century, but it hasn?t often been recorded in print since and its derivative chav is new to most people.
Other terms for the class also have Romany connections; another is charver, Romany for prostitute. Yet another is the deeply insulting pikey, presumably from the Kentish dialect term for gypsy that was borrowed from turnpike, so a person who travels the roads.
Did chavi die out, only to be reinvented recently? That seems hardly likely from the written and anecdotal evidence, and many correspondents report that it is well known to them as a spoken term in various parts of the country; what we?re seeing is a term that has been in active but inconspicuous use for the last 150 years suddenly bursting out into wider popular use in a new sense through circumstances we don?t fully understand.

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anyone who supports the death of a woman for speaking her mind to pieces of shit has isues.

that woman didnt deserve to die.

you cant justify that.

i think we've all been insituations like he.
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We don't have deathrow in England.
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This sucks ... just read the whole story ... shit happens but ... we are so low as a society just to get there in the first place
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Sorry to hear that! hope the hoodies will be caught and send to deathrow!
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hate to say this but england is going downhill

last i was there i noticed more of these hood gang type people than last time and it was only 2 years. friend of mine's girlfriend was robbed of her handbag and someone else i know was attacked at a bus stop.

england is becoming a place for criminals and gangs
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I smell a distraught child going up to a roof with a silenced .308 to mete out a little street justice in the future.



Hoodies beware!

Someone should really start taking out the thugs. It's not very safe anymore
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damn funky fresh homie G's! thugs should be brainwashed! why live your life ruining other people's lives
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If I was that kid, I would dedicate my life to finding those kids and tear down and destroy everyone one of their lives.
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London police just need to shoot a few for no reason. That'll put these bitches into check.
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They wont get death row. Number one it was not premeditated and number two she did not die instantly which will also help their case. They may do some time but they wont get death row. Unless of course they have criminal records, then it's a whoooleee different story.
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Isn't it funny (sad) how the mere power of words can incite such violence? People must be wound up pretty tight these days to sucker-punch others because they don't like what they hear.

So much for living in a free society... people who can't listen to others' dissenting opinions without violence should move to places like Iraq and Afghanistan where they are free to torture and kill people for saying anything wrong!
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Isn't it funny (sad) how the mere power of words can incite such violence? People must be wound up pretty tight these days to sucker-punch others because they don't like what they hear.

So much for living in a free society... people who can't listen to others' dissenting opinions without violence should move to places like Iraq and Afghanistan where they are free to torture and kill people for saying anything wrong!

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hate to say this but england is going downhill

last i was there i noticed more of these hood gang type people than last time and it was only 2 years. friend of mine's girlfriend was robbed of her handbag and someone else i know was attacked at a bus stop.

england is becoming a place for criminals and gangs
I feel your predicament but let's not drag the whole country on this issue.
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