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lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 07:00 AM

Anyone have any word on what happens if their DC loses juice? Will domains still propogate? Or is it game over if domains can't be transfered out?

lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 07:07 AM

Reading has it their diesel is about to expire today without a resupply.

"We haven't lost service once during this entire disaster, and we have three weeks of backup power secured," CEO Sigmund Solares

WTF happend to the three weeks?

lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 07:16 AM

correction:

Reading DNic has several days of diesel left, however the last standing OC3 downtown has only untill today. Resupply still waiting.

NetRodent · 09-03-2005, 07:29 AM

Directnic does not control the root name servers. If you have domains registered through directnic and directnic goes down, you won't be able to make changes but your domains should still resolve.

Of course if Directnic also provides you with dns or hosting, you'll be up shit creek without a paddle.

Peaches · 09-03-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NetRodent

Of course if Directnic also provides you with dns or hosting, you'll be up shit creek without a paddle.

They have actually been working all week to roll their hosting customers to other hosts if needed. There is a damn good back up plan sitting there waiting

NetRodent · 09-03-2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

They have actually been working all week to roll their hosting customers to other hosts if needed. There is a damn good back up plan sitting there waiting

Hopefully so. However, somethingawful.com is still down. If they had a backup plan ready to go, I would think it would have already been used.

I'm not trying to knock Directnic. I think that they've managed to stay online given the anarchy surrounding is nothing short of amazing.

Peaches · 09-03-2005, 07:42 AM

http://www.somethingawful.com resolves for me and it's saying they are moving their servers themselves from NOLA to KC.

Tanker · 09-03-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lotusmike

Reading has it their diesel is about to expire today without a resupply.

"We haven't lost service once during this entire disaster, and we have three weeks of backup power secured," CEO Sigmund Solares

WTF happend to the three weeks?

they have lots of desiel where they are! its thier upstream thats out of fuel

the connections they have coming into thier building works on thier end its the other end of the connection in another building in the city

those people didnt secure enough fuel or cant get anymore

lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NetRodent

Directnic does not control the root name servers. If you have domains registered through directnic and directnic goes down, you won't be able to make changes but your domains should still resolve.

Of course if Directnic also provides you with dns or hosting, you'll be up shit creek without a paddle.

We DNS through them. And I'm getting intermittent connectivity to their site. Argh!

directfiesta · 09-03-2005, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lotusmike

We DNS through them. And I'm getting intermittent connectivity to their site. Argh!

DirectNic has and is doing a great job ...

But you should , since your actual DNS is with them, set up supplementary name servers. I recommend that:

1 - setup a free dns account at http://www.zoneedit.com
2 - once done, add , if you can login the DN administration , the new name servers. They will propagate if they are still up for a while.
3- go to http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx , and see if the new name servers are added.
4 - once added, it is up to you to maybe remove the DN DNS .

Good luck

lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

DirectNic has and is doing a great job ...

But you should , since your actual DNS is with them, set up supplementary name servers. I recommend that:

1 - setup a free dns account at http://www.zoneedit.com
2 - once done, add , if you can login the DN administration , the new name servers. They will propagate if they are still up for a while.
3- go to http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx , and see if the new name servers are added.
4 - once added, it is up to you to maybe remove the DN DNS .

Good luck

If NS is already assigned through DNic and we are not planning to change NS for several months, does it matter? If DNic name servers went down, would the last good known NS' still stick?

directfiesta · 09-03-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lotusmike

If NS is already assigned through DNic and we are not planning to change NS for several months, does it matter? If DNic name servers went down, would the last good known NS' still stick?

The problem you have is :

If Dnic goes down, the info in the root servers ( and other main ISP cache servers ) is to look the DNS at Directnic... DNic cannot follow thru with the request, in others words cannot tell the surfer that the site is located at 111.222.333 ; so you are fucked, sorry.

On the other hand, if you add/change NS , the root servers ( and others ) will update to know that the NS are NS.somewhereewlse.com . They will look up ns.som... and see that it resolves to 111.222.333 . So everything works.

You have nothing to loose to do as suggested. You do not even have to delete the Dnic NS info.

For my clients, they all have from 4 to 6 different nameservers, so if ever ( and it happened ) the name server is down, the others take over.

This has to be done asap, so that the update gets doene as soon as possible. When and if Dnic is off the net, there is nothing more to do.

mkx · 09-03-2005, 10:21 AM

I have my servers name server domain at directnic so all my sites point to ns1.mydirectnicdomain.com and ns2.mydirectnicdomain.com. Should I be worrying?

directfiesta · 09-03-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mkx

I have my servers name server domain at directnic so all my sites point to ns1.mydirectnicdomain.com and ns2.mydirectnicdomain.com. Should I be worrying?

If there main OC3 provider or themself goes down, yes .

Why risk it .

If you are not confortable with zoneedit , I can temporarely set you up free DNS for you guys that are actually on Domain Name Servers located at directNic.

DatingGold · 09-03-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

They have actually been working all week to roll their hosting customers to other hosts if needed. There is a damn good back up plan sitting there waiting

We have some of our real small sites hosted there and hey haven't contacted us...

Peaches · 09-03-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold

We have some of our real small sites hosted there and hey haven't contacted us...

They are busy dealing with other HOSTS, i.e. companies (and big ones) they can direct the traffic to if needed

BTW, per Buff's blog, they just got in a large amount of diesel - they're fine

lotusmike · 09-03-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

They are busy dealing with other HOSTS, i.e. companies (and big ones) they can direct the traffic to if needed

BTW, per Buff's blog, they just got in a large amount of diesel - they're fine

What about their upstream.... ?

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lotusmike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 323	Reading has it their diesel is about to expire today without a resupply. "We haven't lost service once during this entire disaster, and we have three weeks of backup power secured," CEO Sigmund Solares WTF happend to the three weeks?

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lotusmike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 323	correction: Reading DNic has several days of diesel left, however the last standing OC3 downtown has only untill today. Resupply still waiting.

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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	http://www.somethingawful.com resolves for me and it's saying they are moving their servers themselves from NOLA to KC.

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mkx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	I have my servers name server domain at directnic so all my sites point to ns1.mydirectnicdomain.com and ns2.mydirectnicdomain.com. Should I be worrying?