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Old 11-16-2005, 12:28 PM   #1
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Teen Charged With Killing Girls Parents[PIC OF THE BASTARD]



LITITZ, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- An 18-year-old Pennsylvania man accused of killing the parents of his 14-year-old girlfriend and fleeing with her to Indiana is being held without bail on charges of criminal homicide, kidnapping and reckless endangerment.

David Ludwig was flown back to Pennsylvania and arraigned late Tuesday. Earlier in the day, he had waived an extradition hearing in Indiana.

Donald Totaro, the district attorney in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, said he would decide later whether to seek the death penalty.

Ludwig's girlfriend, Kara Beth Borden, was flown back to Pennsylvania separately on a private jet, accompanied by investigators. She walked from the plane without handcuffs to an unmarked sedan and got inside.

Investigation continues

Totaro said she had been reunited with family members, and a legal guardian was appointed for her.

Police have said they were still investigating the circumstances of the case to determine whether the girl was kidnapped by Ludwig or fled with him willingly.

Asked if the kidnapping charge lodged against Ludwig indicated that prosecutors believe she was a victim, Totaro said, "That's correct."

But he also said that "we are still investigating this case, and at this point in time, we are trying to determine what exactly happened in the home."

Girl seen as victim

Chief Richard Garipoli of the Warwick Township, Pennsylvania, police -- the agency leading the investigation -- said Tuesday that Borden "is the victim in this case until I hear otherwise."

"She's devastated, and it's important that we put her back with her family where she belongs," he told reporters.

Police in Lititz, about 80 miles west of Philadelphia, discovered the bodies of Michael and Cathryn Borden, both 50, on Sunday morning. Each had been shot once in the head, police said.

Ludwig was captured and Kara Beth Borden was taken safely into custody by police Monday in Indiana after a high-speed chase and crash. (Watch as Indiana police arrest Ludwig -- 1:42)

Trooper David Cox, who apprehended Ludwig, described Borden as "just frantic, crying, screaming" when she emerged from the car. (Full story)

Questions over extent of relationship

Court documents made public in Pennsylvania suggested a close relationship between the two teens.

The couple had been dating since May, police said.

A "close friend" of Ludwig's told investigators Monday that he was "well aware that Ludwig and Kara Borden were involved in an ongoing, secret, intimate relationship of a sexual nature," according to an affidavit used to secure search warrants for the homes of both Ludwig and Borden.

The 19-year-old friend said he often spoke to Ludwig about the relationship, the affidavit said. The friend also told investigators Ludwig and Borden "often communicated via instant messages and text messages on the Internet."

Their communication, according to the affidavit, included "flirtatious messages" as well as "inappropriate images of one another via various electronic media" such as their computer systems and cell phones.

Teens had Web sites

Each had a Web site. Borden's talked about attending prayer groups and her interest in soccer and baby-sitting.

On his site, Ludwig quoted lyrics from a Christian rock band and discussed his affinity for computers and volleyball. He worked as a lifeguard and at an electronics store during the summer.

Garipoli said he had not heard whether the two had a sexual relationship, but "if later on down the line the detectives in my unit find out that there was some kind of illegal activity going on, those charges will be added."

Friends of the Borden family said they were stunned.

The Rev. Kevin Eshleman described the Bordens as "a good family" dealing with typical teenage issues. Of Kara, he said: "I think she loved her parents."

"I can't comprehend any way in which she would conspire against her parents," he told CNN. "It just is almost incomprehensible to think that she would be a part of something like that."

Teen Skyler Jones described Kara as "an amazing friend." She added, "Her parents always made us feel at home at her house. It was just a nice place to be."

Neighbor Tom Mannon said, "She seemed to be a typical all-American girl, just a sweet kid on the street."
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:30 PM   #2
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It probablly went from "I hate my parents, I wish they were dead" to the nightmare of it actually happening. See what you get for listening to too much Christian Rock and playing volleyball?
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I'm still waiting for the chopper footage of the obvious car chase.. theres gotta be one somewhere.. What a fruit loop.
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Why is this murder different than any other? I don't get why you guys feel this one is so important.
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Why is this murder different than any other? I don't get why you guys feel this one is so important.

uh murders are mostly over drugs, this one is over some crazy kid shooting 2 parents in their own home, then kidnapping the daughter? (fucking read)

how the do you not see it special?
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I DO think that before the fucker shot her parents, she was probably very "in crush" with him as only a 14 yr old can be "in crush". But once he shot them, I think the only reason she went was out of fear for her own safety
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Where do you come up with this stuff?

and I bet the chick isn't a victim.
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and I bet the chick isn't a victim.
no she probably isnt.
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I DO think that before the fucker shot her parents, she was probably very "in crush" with him as only a 14 yr old can be "in crush". But once he shot them, I think the only reason she went was out of fear for her own safety

If this happened in TX, they would both be on death row within a month.
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and I bet the chick isn't a victim.
the guy (?) has had "super mario" sigs for as long as they've posted.

something tells me, they spend too much time inside.
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Yeah, she probably is.
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Hopefully they'll blame this on religion. Somehow it'll get twisted and be blamed on porn in the end though.
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something tells me, they spend too much time inside.

Good point, but I think he is a chick.
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Yeah, she probably is.

i was agreeing with you.
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the guy (?) has had "super mario" sigs for as long as they've posted.

something tells me, they spend too much time inside.

the guy (?) has "designed galleries" for as long as they've posted.

something tells me, they spend to much time inside. (busy reading the bible probably)
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Then why do you think she was kidnapped?
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Then why do you think she was kidnapped?
i was explaining to you why it would be a big deal. the article says so far it does look like a kidnapping.

but i think that she may have a little more part in it but im not to sure how much, thus i was agreeing with you,

did i really have to explain that?
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the guy (?) has "designed galleries" for as long as they've posted.

something tells me, they spend to much time inside. (busy reading the bible probably)
i know.

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i just did some galleries that are converting really good.

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who gives a flying fuck

i dont give two shits about this whole ordeal

another day another murder

big fucking whoop-de-doo, how sad, yea right

death is reality

I think more people should be murdered, i hope the murder rate increases in 2006.
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Each had a Web site. Borden's talked about attending prayer groups and her interest in soccer and baby-sitting.

On his site, Ludwig quoted lyrics from a Christian rock band and discussed his affinity for computers and volleyball. He worked as a lifeguard and at an electronics store during the summer.
the Teens had websites = they had myspace

myspace breeds murderers

its so lovely and ironic when Christian boys kill
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its so lovely and ironic when Christian boys kill


its starting to seem like that, alot fo murders they talk about now the guy/girl always has a myspace.
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i dont give two shits about this whole ordeal

another day another murder

big fucking whoop-de-doo, how sad, yea right

death is reality

I think more people should be murdered, i hope the murder rate increases in 2006.
As long as it doesnt involve you or anyone you know......
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As long as it doesnt involve you or anyone you know......
i've got weapons placed all throughout my house , if some pathetic 14 year old Christian kid came in and tried to kill me, he would get chopped up into pieces before he could even say "hi".

if I or anyone i know gets murdered, its not really a big deal when you think about the big picture. nothing more then another person that wont be able to pay income tax or any other sort of taxes.

why do you think the government wants to crackdown on murders? it's because dead people cant pay taxes. they dont care about you , they dont care about your safety, all you are to them is another statistic.
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Did they actually say they want to put her back with her dead parents since that is where she belongs?
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i've got weapons placed all throughout my house , if some pathetic 14 year old Christian kid came in and tried to kill me, he would get chopped up into pieces before he could even say "hi".

if I or anyone i know gets murdered, its not really a big deal when you think about the big picture. nothing more then another person that wont be able to pay income tax or any other sort of taxes.

why do you think the government wants to crackdown on murders? it's because dead people cant pay taxes. they dont care about you , they dont care about your safety, all you are to them is another statistic.
Dude....no.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:22 PM   #46
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i bet he was scientologist..
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:38 PM   #47
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He sure has purty lips..he will be popular in the slammer
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:54 PM   #48
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:59 PM   #49
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:04 AM   #50
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Their lives are now fucked up, I feel for the girls siblings though
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