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Old 12-09-2005, 10:22 AM   #1
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Man convicted of manslaughter for "causing" heart attack

2 cousins jump on a guy at a party and beat the shit out of him. When he gets up he goes running after one of them with a knife and the guy has a heart attack and drops dead. Yesterday he was convicted of manslaughter and is awaiting sentence up to 19 years.

http://www.courttv.com/trials/ward/1...rdict_ctv.html
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:29 AM   #2
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:31 AM   #3
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:55 AM   #4
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The next step is convicting someone who tells somebody something that either upsets them enough that they work themselves up to a stroke or heart attack or kill themselves.

Prosecutor: "This defendent knew that telling the victim her husband was having an affair would cause her distress, yet he flagrantly proceeded to do so. If not for his actions the victim would not have blown her head off. They only recourse is that he should spend the rest of his natural life in a prison cell."

12 idiot jurors: "Uh huh!"
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:00 AM   #5
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what a crock of shit. Though I must admit that chasing the dude down the street was a VERY stupid thing to do, there's no way that he should be held accountable for some 300lb dumbshit having a heartattack. it would have happened sooner or later anyway.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:21 AM   #6
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It's the way it's always been. If you are committing a crime, and someone dies during the commission of that crime, you are responsible for their death. Too bad for them.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:25 AM   #7
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It's the way it's always been. If you are committing a crime, and someone dies during the commission of that crime, you are responsible for their death. Too bad for them.

stfu seriously,

he was getting gang beaten by 2 guys. one which was over 300 pounds, he could have died there.

so 2 people stomp you and you just get up and shake their hands?

please shut up idiot.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:28 AM   #8
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The guy is lucky I don't write the laws because since the circumstances of his death don't make any difference to the victim, I would have only a single crime of murder. Come to that, I wouldn't reward someone whose dumb luck or incompetence caused their murder attempt to fail, so attempted murder would carry the same penalty as murder. Add in dangerous driving, driving under the influence, etc, etc.

It is ludicrous that people who, whether deliberately or through thoughtlessness, act with equal disdain for the lives of others, but are treated differently once they arrive in court.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:38 AM   #9
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It's the way it's always been. If you are committing a crime, and someone dies during the commission of that crime, you are responsible for their death. Too bad for them.
So, if the witness across the street had dropped dead during the incident you'd still send the guy to prison?
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:44 AM   #10
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stfu seriously,

he was getting gang beaten by 2 guys. one which was over 300 pounds, he could have died there.

so 2 people stomp you and you just get up and shake their hands?

please shut up idiot.
You just don't run after them with a knife...
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:47 AM   #11
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Add in dangerous driving, driving under the influence, etc, etc.
Jeeze... Last year I was riding down the beach front (I was the only car on the street) and slowed down to 5mph to look at a bunch of pelicans then proceeded to normal speed going home a couple blocks away. A cop who had been sitting at an intersection flew out and pulled me over wanting to check me for sobriety and claimed that I was all over the lane, then gave me a ticket for wreckless driving. Do you really think I should be in prison serving the same time as vehicular homicide becaue a cop wanted to be an asshole?
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:53 AM   #12
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You just don't run after them with a knife...

"You just don't run after them with a knife..."

are you reading the article?

he didnt even stab the guy, and he is charged. faces up to 19 YEARS, for something he didnt even do.

the fat ass deserved to be chased with a knife anyone jumping in on a fight deserves it.

he deserves to get jailtime because of some fat asses eating problems who was also a POS who jumped in on a fight?????? ya right.

you people do not make any sense to me.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:54 AM   #13
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stfu seriously,

he was getting gang beaten by 2 guys. one which was over 300 pounds, he could have died there.

so 2 people stomp you and you just get up and shake their hands?

please shut up idiot.
The dead guy deserved what he got. That wasn't my point. The point was, this is nothing new. It's the law.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:01 PM   #14
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So, if the witness across the street had dropped dead during the incident you'd still send the guy to prison?
The person across the street is not "involved" in the crime. But if it is an armed robbery in a bank, and an old lady in the bank has a heart attack, then yes, LEGALLY the robber is responsible.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:23 PM   #15
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it amazes me he was even charged with anything, let alone convicted

that jury & the prosecutor need to be put away for a very long time, they are obviously a menace to society
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:26 PM   #16
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stfu seriously,

he was getting gang beaten by 2 guys. one which was over 300 pounds, he could have died there.

so 2 people stomp you and you just get up and shake their hands?

please shut up idiot.

whoah there sluggo , i dont think he is arguing the stupidity of it , he is just pointing out the law.. If your commiting a crime and someone dies its manslaughter,.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:29 PM   #17
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What bothers me the most with the courts lately is the judge giving his opinion. Fuck his opinion. it should be by the letter of the law.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:30 PM   #18
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you people do not make any sense to me.
Same people who think it is good for the London police to execute an Asian man because he looks Middle Eastern and might be a terrorist.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:38 PM   #19
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This story has white trash written all over it.

Too bad they didn't all drop dead, lol.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:38 PM   #20
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whoah there sluggo , i dont think he is arguing the stupidity of it , he is just pointing out the law.. If your commiting a crime and someone dies its manslaughter,.

ooo ya its just "too bad for them" because the gov't tells us what we should do and what laws we have to obey by so they must be right.

ya thats just "too bad for them", we should just shut up and agree with everything that our gov't tells us to do.

pointing out the formality of the law instead of poiting out the circumstances of this situation is idiotic.

ya thats just "too bad for them". i think YOU need to slow down there "sluggo".

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Old 12-09-2005, 12:42 PM   #21
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damn george bush, figured we could blame him on this one also
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