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Old 03-29-2002, 08:48 AM   #1
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SpaceDog > Unauthorized Content Usage

Space Dog,

Can you please contact me regarding the unauthorized reprint use of our articles at your site.
http://www.terra.es/personal8/69khzz/articles.htm

You are publishing copyrighted material I wrote without permission: http://www.terra.es/personal8/69khzz/KeyConcepts.htm as well a 2257 guideline I wrote http://www.terra.es/personal8/69khzz/2257.htm

In fact, you simply copied our entire tableset and put it into your page without permission.

Please email me regarding this issues at [email protected] I have no problems with you linking to it and will be happy to work with you, but we MUST establish some guidelines First.

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Old 03-29-2002, 09:04 AM   #2
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Naw, I have no ill-intent. I simply have to maintain some kind of control of our content, as it is very valuable to us.
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:18 AM   #4
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fuck him in the ass with a tube-steak

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thank him for leaving all your banners & shit up ; )
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:20 AM   #5
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:23 AM   #6
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Cyndalie,

You are too nice.
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:31 AM   #7
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LOL

Is that what happens when webmasters with no experience open webmaster resource sites?
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:39 AM   #8
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"Spacedogg, please email me" probably would have gotten his attention.
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Old 03-29-2002, 09:42 AM   #9
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A simple

"Spacedogg, please email me" probably would have gotten his attention.
but you know this way is MUCH more interesting.....
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Yea. She should have handled it like Spacedog would.
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Yea. She should have handled it like Spacedog would.
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I am very surprised. Spacedog stealing anothers content.
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Old 03-29-2002, 10:37 AM   #14
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Hey I've seen worse. At least he kept the By-line credits.
We should be flattered, but there are guidelines that need to be established before hand. Not the end of the world, but not to be ignored.
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Old 03-29-2002, 10:44 AM   #15
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"Spacedogg, please email me" probably would have gotten his attention.
Indeed, Would have got a fuck you. see ya in court if it had of been me.






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Old 03-29-2002, 11:20 AM   #16
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There's an acceptable way to use other peoples articles in your sites. It's called linking. ;>

Spacedog a dumbass! News at 11!

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Old 03-29-2002, 11:43 AM   #17
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ya see ya in court bullshit, spend $5k in litigation fees and get how much out of it? $1k if you are lucky?

Just publicly shame him, he'll delete your tables and link to them, end of story.

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Old 03-29-2002, 11:49 AM   #18
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can some person act more immature than him ?

spacedog is needs to format brain:\ as soon as possible and get his shit stright
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Just out of curiousity - what if SpaceDog linked to the site within a frame, so it looked like it was actually part of his site when it wasn't. I've seen TGP's that do this simply so they can have an extra banner floating atop of their submitter's gallery.

What are people's views on this?
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Waaahahahahahahah !!!! SpaceDog fucked up again !!!

What else is new ?
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Old 03-29-2002, 11:54 AM   #21
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Ahhh but Nedder darlin'... Spacedawg would BE assessed her litigation fees when she proved the copyright infringement as well... and the court WOULD collect even if he had to do community service to work it off. ;-)p Educate yourself before spouting off.

Dawg should be d*mned thankful she is treating this as she is instead of him being rounded up by the Feds or a state agency who WOULD be looking alllllll thru his computer systems with a very finetooth comb. They no doubt wouldn't haul him in but they WOULD confiscate his gear to look over.
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Just out of curiousity - what if SpaceDog linked to the site within a frame, so it looked like it was actually part of his site when it wasn't. I've seen TGP's that do this simply so they can have an extra banner floating atop of their submitter's gallery.

What are people's views on this?

If a TGP does it to galleries that ARE submitted to them it's a whole different ball game. This would be more like if someone linked to your images.

What SD did is like stealing your exclusive content, but not hotlinking it.
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Just out of curiousity - what if SpaceDog linked to the site within a frame, so it looked like it was actually part of his site when it wasn't. I've seen TGP's that do this simply so they can have an extra banner floating atop of their submitter's gallery.
Acceptable usage terms are conceived upon agreement and vary per partnership. The point is that there is an agreement where special circumstances are taken into consideration and then anything is possible.
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... and the court WOULD collect even if he had to do community service to work it off. ;-)p Educate yourself before spouting off.
I've sued someone before in small claims court. And it takes a little more than one might assume to "collect" the money. As far as paying an officer to stand in the store, pretty much next to the register, until the amount was reached and paid back.

I won the judgement than waited for payment, nothing. Waited, finally had to retrial and he didnt show for court, judge gave it to me.... person I sued didnt do any community service, I believe that is bullshit. why would doin work to pay off copyright infringement be done for the courts? Its him they owe, not the government.

So it took 2 court appearances, and 2 judges to say, "guilty", and had to pay an officer to collect the money over a weeks time of being at the store locale until the amount was reached.

In the end it took almost 3 years for 2k. it was NOT worth it, but I dont dig on being ripped off. And will prosecute for any reason, if it cant be handled in person.

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I could have sued a cat toy company for a faulty and dangerous toy that did not have proper labeling. My cat ate a peice of it and had to have it surgically removed. Cost me $1,000 to save his life, it was a $500 cat less than a year old.

Instead of suing I emailed them and suggested changes to their products to make them safer and got them to change their package labeling.

Dualcpu is right. I am too nice. I was more concerned with it harming other cats whose owner would most likely put it to sleep than fork over that kind of money. There's a easy way and a hard way to learn a lesson. It takes too much of my energy to get upset. I just try to recitfy the problem best I can and put it behind me.

No email yet. I'd be happy to work with ya SpaceDog, email me so we can setup some guidelines.

Have a good holiday weekend everyone!

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In order to win a civil suit you must prove malicious Intent. Spacedog is to stupid to have Malicious Intent.

Leave him alone, in reality he is not a bad webmaster. Hes trying to make some decent sites, and isn't out to screw anyone. So he makes a few dumb mistakes, well we all have, ..Havent we?
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A simple

"Spacedogg, please email me" probably would have gotten his attention.
Best way to get his attention is to make a thread asking about a sponsor.

"see sig"

also, I agree with Wired Dr, I doubt there was any bad intention.


Spacedog aint so bad.

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Cyndalie,

You sound like a respectable person, I hope your friendly approach will get the situation worked out with this "spacedog" individual.

Good luck.
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I am very surprised. Spacedog stealing anothers content.
In typical violator fashion, he's probably going to claim that "I thought it was public domain" or "I thought you'd be happy." Yeesh. Nobody would go and borrow their neighbor's car without asking, but intellectual property seems be regarded as a public resource once it's published.
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All you idiots that suggest Cyndalie sue SpaceDog, get some fucking law education. Cyndalie has to first send SpaceDog a cease and desist letter. If he fails to remove the infringing material, she can then sue him for copyright infringement. And yes, SpaceDog would have to reimburse all or part of Cyndalie's legal fees and if Cyndalie could prove it, lost revenue or other damages.

However, do you think SpaceDog has one penny to spend on such fees? You can't squeeze blood out of rock or however the saying goes.

Cyndalie approached this issue correctly.
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**In order to win a civil suit you must prove malicious Intent** Wrong! ;-)

You do NOT take a copyright infringement case to small claims if you have any sense. They cannot follow up to enforce the judgements... You file in the court of common pleas where the judge has the power of contempt of court etc etc. Been there, done that. Won 3 times for 3 and collected every last nickel as well. One with a fight that the judge got in to to enforce, Garnished the boys wages to get it but we got it. Malicious intent? Notta chance to have to prove that.

You ONLY have to prove the content the person is using IS and DOES belong to you. Even if they aren't charging access to see your materials, all they have to do is have ONE banner to an aff program on their site, that proves the use to benefit financially on them and they are screwed. If they ARE charging for access, it's so much the easier to win.

But even if they have a totally clean site, you can win a small judgement as well as them paying the attorney fees that you incur. Others have no rights to financially benefit at your expense.
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Umm.. scuse me......


That is out right prepostperous,,

I emailed YOU specifically & requested permission to reprint that article.. You gave me WRITTEN permission to reprint that...It is YOU that has provided me the banner to link to you with..

You have any further questions contact me via email.. you should have it in you files already!!!!!!
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I could have sued a cat toy company for a faulty and dangerous toy that did not have proper labeling. My cat ate a peice of it and had to have it surgically removed. Cost me $1,000 to save his life, it was a $500 cat less than a year old.

Instead of suing I emailed them and suggested changes to their products to make them safer and got them to change their package labeling.

Dualcpu is right. I am too nice. I was more concerned with it harming other cats whose owner would most likely put it to sleep than fork over that kind of money. There's a easy way and a hard way to learn a lesson. It takes too much of my energy to get upset. I just try to recitfy the problem best I can and put it behind me.

No email yet. I'd be happy to work with ya SpaceDog, email me so we can setup some guidelines.

Have a good holiday weekend everyone!

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I tend not to sue (I never have before) largely because I believe that what goes around comes around (and for the most part it's been true!) - that's also why I try to be nice and helpful to everyone!
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That is out right prepostperous,,

I emailed YOU specifically & requested permission to reprint that article.. You gave me WRITTEN permission to reprint that...It is YOU that has provided me the banner to link to you with..

You have any further questions contact me via email.. you should have it in you files already!!!!!!
Actually SpaceDog, YOU should have it in your file.

Anytime you get permissions to use other people's work you should always keep on record them giving you permission (such as the email you said she sent you) - It really comes in handy in situations like these!

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I meant my email address..
Actually, it's your job to email her now.
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Spacedog, your email [email protected] is not working, daemon error.

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Spacedog, your email [email protected] is not working, daemon error.


Yeah.. I havent set up mail on server..

I use another email address..
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Yeah.. I havent set up mail on server..

I use another email address..
Well I was trying to say bro, is, I am trying to email you...hit me up if you dont care to post your addy [email protected]
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/me looks back at all the file drawers and thinks of the printouts and emails that have been totally forgotten... lol

Easy enough mistake ta do!
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