US army deserter: unit killed ?30 plus? civilians - GoFuckYourself.com

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 10:34 AM

US army deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim .

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US Marine admits his unit killed innocent Iraqi civilians

Sergant Massey claims his unit killed ?30 plus? innocent Iraqi civilians within 48 hours while on checkpoint duty in Baghdad.

By Stephen Collinson - TORONTO

A former US Marine said Tuesday his unit killed more than 30 innocent Iraqi civilians in just two days, in graphic testimony to a Canadian tribunal probing an asylum claim by a US army deserter.

Marine Sergeant Jimmy Massey appeared as a witness to bolster claims by fugitive paratrooper Jeremy Hinzman that he walked out on the 82nd Airborne Division to avoid being ordered to commit war crimes in Iraq.

Hinzman, 26, claims he would face persecution if sent home to the United States, in a politically charged case which could set a precedent for at least two other US deserters seeking asylum in Canada.

Massey told Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) that men under his command in the 3rd battalion, Seventh Marines, killed "30 plus" civilians within 48 hours while on checkpoint duty in Baghdad.

"I do know that we killed innocent civilians," Massey told the tribunal, relating the chaotic days after the US-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003..

http://www.middle-east-online.com/en...iraq/?id=12084

Hinzman, 26, claims he would face persecution if sent home to the United States,

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 10:46 AM

You know, it's getting to where I can tell who started a thread just by looking at the title.

Let it go, man. We know you hate the US but this is an adult webmaster board. Try to stay on topic once in a while.

theking · 12-08-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
US army deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim .

Hinzman, 26, claims he would face persecution if sent home to the United States,

He will face a Court Martial and if he chooses to call it persecution then so be it. I suppose any criminal can call their trials persecution if they choose too.

Manowar · 12-08-2004, 10:52 AM

not suprising, hope he gets granted asylum

theking · 12-08-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
not suprising, hope he gets granted asylum

He won't be granted asylum according to some Canadian Attorneys I saw interviewed...but because of the Canadian system they doubted his return would be swift.

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
You know, it's getting to where I can tell who started a thread just by looking at the title.

Let it go, man. We know you hate the US but this is an adult webmaster board. Try to stay on topic once in a while.

LOL...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=399861&s=

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
LOL...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=399861&s=

Try to contribute something other than copy & paste news stories and anti-US banter. You can't do it, can you?

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Try to contribute something other than copy & paste news stories and anti-US banter. You can't do it, can you?

I started a thread about my dick ooozing green stuff???
You mean that type... there are so many of these " business" threads here ....

But I admit it is much more serious, important and of influencel to us....

BTW, my income is going down because of the US mismanagement of economy....
OOOOps, it is US bashing....

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
I started a thread about my dick ooozing green stuff???
You mean that type... there are so many of these " business" threads here ....

But I admit it is much more serious, important and of influencel to us....

BTW, my income is going down because of the US mismanagement of economy....
OOOOps, it is US bashing....

Sounds like you aren't cut out to be self-employed. My income is increasing. Better ask your manager at Wendy's if you can go back to full time.

theking · 12-08-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Sounds like you aren't cut out to be self-employed. My income is increasing. Better ask your manager at Wendy's if you can go back to full time.

I think you are right. My financial worth increases every month...via investments in the stock market...as a result I do not have a complaint about the economy. It seems to be only foreigners that complain about the US economy...and when they complain...it can only make me think that America is doing something right.

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Sounds like you aren't cut out to be self-employed. My income is increasing. Better ask your manager at Wendy's if you can go back to full time.

Probably right.

Was employed 3 years out , last 27 self-employed... and taking care of everything since single ( divorced ) by choice...

But I will apply at Wendy's... I hope you will forgive me for getting you fired.

s9ann0 · 12-08-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
You know, it's getting to where I can tell who started a thread just by looking at the title.

Let it go, man. We know you hate the US but this is an adult webmaster board. Try to stay on topic once in a while.

I hear what you are saying but this board has never been on topic and I'm more interested to read this than some bullshit about the wheels on someones new car or someone asskissing a program or some 14 year old talking about a girl they think they fucked

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by spanno
I hear what you are saying but this board has never been on topic and I'm more interested to read this than some bullshit about the wheels on someones new car or someone asskissing a program or some 14 year old talking about a girl they think they fucked

So two wrongs make a right?

SuckOnThis · 12-08-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by theking
He will face a Court Martial and if he chooses to call it persecution then so be it. I suppose any criminal can call their trials persecution if they choose too.

So exactly what makes him a criminal? Because he happens to have a conscience? Or in your mind is he a traitor that decided he simply wants free health care?

SuckOnThis · 12-08-2004, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
You know, it's getting to where I can tell who started a thread just by looking at the title.

Let it go, man. We know you hate the US but this is an adult webmaster board. Try to stay on topic once in a while.

I bet if this thread was about how to clean your gun you would be all for it.

jimmyf · 12-08-2004, 12:21 PM

Wonder if the Marine deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim told them how he came about killing innocent civilians.

wonder if he told them he was on a check point and was ordered 2 stop all vehicles and if they do not stop shoot.

Wonder if he told them the reason they didn't stop?

Anyone know why they didn't stop?

There is a good answer 2 why they didn't stop.. go find it

theking · 12-08-2004, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
So exactly what makes him a criminal? Because he happens to have a conscience? Or in your mind is he a traitor that decided he simply wants free health care?

The same thing that makes anyone a criminal...he violated law...in this case military law...and no he is not a traitor...he is a deserter. BTW...if Congress had officially declared war he would be facing possible execution...which can be given for desertion.

crockett · 12-08-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
Wonder if the Marine deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim told them how he came about killing innocent civilians.

wonder if he told them he was on a check point and was ordered 2 stop all vehicles and if they do not stop shoot.

Wonder if he told them the reason they didn't stop?

Anyone know why they didn't stop?

There is a good answer 2 why they didn't stop.. go find it

Put yourself in a country that has been taken over by a foreign army that you know little about, other than the propaganda sold to you by your govt. You have heard of them killing countless civilians and you don't speak their language. Would you not be just a tad bit scared that they may kill you too?

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I bet if this thread was about how to clean your gun you would be all for it.

I know how to clean my guns. If I want to read and talk incessantly about guns, I would go to a forum for gun owners rather than posting about it on an adult webmaster board.

jimmyf · 12-08-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
Put yourself in a country that has been taken over by a foreign army that you know little about, other than the propaganda sold to you by your govt. You have heard of them killing countless civilians and you don't speak their language. Would you not be just a tad bit scared that they may kill you too?

because they where scared..... that is not why they didn't stop... and it has happened more than 1 or 2 times...

liquidmoe · 12-08-2004, 01:12 PM

Personally I liked this post, I havent heard about this news article read and it was an interesting read.

I get most of my news from GFY anyway, yeah yeah, dumb idea, but there are so many people just posting news articles you can pick up quite a few interesting world facts.

BuckLover · 12-08-2004, 01:15 PM

Well we kinda already know this stuff is going on!

TheJimmy · 12-08-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
Personally I liked this post, I havent heard about this news article read and it was an interesting read.

I get most of my news from GFY anyway, yeah yeah, dumb idea, but there are so many people just posting news articles you can pick up quite a few interesting world facts.

and I agree with spanno....much better thread than some of the other assinine shit we get to mill through...

baddog · 12-08-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

BTW, my income is going down because of the US mismanagement of economy....

That is the best fucking news I have heard this millenium.

Oh, BTW, do you mean to tell me that you are going to accept the word of a deserter as being gospel?

You truly are an ignorant shit, aren't you?

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
That is the best fucking news I have heard this millenium.

Oh, BTW, do you mean to tell me that you are going to accept the word of a deserter as being gospel?

You truly are an ignorant shit, aren't you?

LOL...

Just to clear up on " income", I am referring to real estate I own in Florida. My intentions were to sell ans settle in Panama... With the 2002 value of that property, I could get in Panama a big 4 bedroom beach front house. Today, I can get a 2 bedrooms...
But this is probably to diifficult for you to understand...
BTW, you debt just increased today.. have fun paying it...

And yes, I will take his word way before I would take the one of Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld... Just logic and experience....

PS:

To
Armed & Hammered

I posted a new thread with pictures ... It should be off the usual intellect level of this " Adult webmastter board " ...

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 01:52 PM

Are you even old enough to be on GFY?

baddog · 12-08-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
LOL...

Just to clear up on " income", I am referring to real estate I own in Florida.

swampland rarely retains its value

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Are you even old enough to be on GFY?

Correction:

" I am too old to be on GFY "

kmanrox · 12-08-2004, 02:03 PM

who fucking cares?

TheFrog · 12-08-2004, 02:05 PM

animals.

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Correction:

" I am too old to be on GFY "

Then leave.

r3ap3r · 12-08-2004, 02:07 PM

It's a reality of war. Men, Women and Children will die.

SuckOnThis · 12-08-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
That is the best fucking news I have heard this millenium.

Oh, BTW, do you mean to tell me that you are going to accept the word of a deserter as being gospel?

You truly are an ignorant shit, aren't you?

Thats funny. The Bush admin took an Iraqi deserters word as gospel about WMD and used it to propogate people like you to invade a country.

ThunderBalls · 12-08-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Then leave.

Yea leave. Because like all right wing gun nuts if we do not agree with what you say then you are not allowed to say it, unless of course you are shooting someone in the process, then you may say whatever you want at the time. Guns are God.

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Yea leave. Because like all right wing gun nuts if we do not agree with what you say then you are not allowed to say it, unless of course you are shooting someone in the process, then you may say whatever you want at the time. Guns are God.

Shut your chili hole, idiot. I'm so left-wing even Al Franken thinks I'm a whack job. I can tolerate just so much useless anti-American bullshit from one Canadian jerkoff before I lose my temper.

Mr. Pat · 12-08-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
US army deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim .

Hinzman, 26, claims he would face persecution if sent home to the United States,

thanks for posting this DF, better this than the pictures of some girl shitting the runs all over herself.

directfiesta · 12-08-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Shut your chili hole, idiot. I'm so left-wing even Al Franken thinks I'm a whack job. I can tolerate just so much useless anti-American bullshit from one Canadian jerkoff before I lose my temper.

BTW, can you point me out, in the original post. comments that are "anti-american".

I didn't write the article, but you could even point that " anti-american" stuff...

I think you confuse " anti-american" with " anti-war " mainly when unjustified and illegal ....
Probably to complicated for you ....

Aside from that, I admit I like your work.

2HousePlague · 01-03-2006, 01:01 AM

I can't decide what's worse: the desertion or the betrayal of trust --

innocentisabelle · 01-03-2006, 01:03 AM

proud to be canadian

leggs · 01-03-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

US army deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim .

Hinzman, 26, claims he would face persecution if sent home to the United States,

And people wonder why, despite being Canadians, my husband and I do NOT want to live in Canada.

Thats all Canada ever does.

Clean up someone else's mess.
Bring food after someone else blows them up.
Apologize for for the idiot behavour of other nations.
Arbitrate for screaming morons.
etc. etc. etc.

Well on behalf of Canada.

FUCK EM!!!

Send the bastards home and let them deal with it in the American cout systems.

I'm sick and tired of my damn tax dollars being used as a snot rag for the benefit of other nations.

He wasn't drafted, he was recruitted! It's his problem not ours! He should have thought about that before he went nuts saluting the flag and sighned the papers.

The last time we let the military scaredy cats in they brought their damn dope. And we are still paying for it! Canada wouldn't have a drug problem if it wasn't for them!

stickyfingerz · 01-03-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

LOL...

Just to clear up on " income", I am referring to real estate I own in Florida. My intentions were to sell ans settle in Panama... With the 2002 value of that property, I could get in Panama a big 4 bedroom beach front house. Today, I can get a 2 bedrooms...
But this is probably to diifficult for you to understand...
BTW, you debt just increased today.. have fun paying it...

And yes, I will take his word way before I would take the one of Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld... Just logic and experience....

PS:

To
Armed & Hammered

I posted a new thread with pictures ... It should be off the usual intellect level of this " Adult webmastter board " ...

Super old thread bump?

Well since its bumped did you sell your super snazzy florida property early? lol Funny if you did.

reynold · 01-03-2006, 03:17 AM

An isolated case--Bush just said..

Webby · 01-03-2006, 03:47 AM

God.. what a pathetic thread.

df posts about a US soldier who claims to have killed civilians and prefers to depart from his military "career" and live in Canada. And.. what's the response??

A load of utter garbage and pigswill from those who complain the world "hates us" while demonstrating the biggest load of hate they can muster.

Bloody hypocrites.

ronbotx · 01-03-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Try to contribute something other than copy & paste news stories and anti-US banter. You can't do it, can you?

That is DirectFiesta's only skill..... period.

Jimmy Massey is a known liar as well.... but that doesn't effect DF from posting this crap.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003841.htm

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003844.htm
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...=Sea rch+News

stev0 · 01-03-2006, 08:32 AM

sounds like he did the right thing...

directfiesta · 01-03-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

That is DirectFiesta's only skill..... period.

Jimmy Massey is a known liar as well.... but that doesn't effect DF from posting this crap.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003841.htm

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003844.htm
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...=Sea rch+News

You are pretty much of an idiot .....

I posted that in december 2004.

The Michelle Malkin ( the holder of the sole thruth ... lol ) articles are from 2005 ...

I don't have the talents of CLEO : I don't see in the future and cannot post articles from the future .

Now, if you would read other posts , in other sections, you could see that I don't only " cut & paste " ( just like here ... )....

But I take notice of your deep toughts on the content of the article.

Now go back to torturing brown people.

crockett · 01-03-2006, 08:35 AM

Worst place the guy could have went was Canada. I believe there is and agreement between Canada and the US that they will have to hand him over. He should have went to France or one of the other countries that greatly apposed the war.

mardigras · 01-03-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

this is an adult webmaster board. Try to stay on topic once in a while.

"Fucking around" is on topic for this forum... I don't see you jumping Juicy for 71,000 mostly non-business posts

mardigras · 01-03-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by reynold

An isolated case--Bush just said..

Aren't they all?

mardigras · 01-03-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

God.. what a pathetic thread.

df posts about a US soldier who claims to have killed civilians and prefers to depart from his military "career" and live in Canada. And.. what's the response??

A load of utter garbage and pigswill from those who complain the world "hates us" while demonstrating the biggest load of hate they can muster.

Bloody hypocrites.

Haven't you heard? The rules were changed... Questioning your government is now unpatriotic. Absence of blind faith makes one dispicable.

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jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	Wonder if the Marine deserter testifying in Canada for an asylum claim told them how he came about killing innocent civilians. wonder if he told them he was on a check point and was ordered 2 stop all vehicles and if they do not stop shoot. Wonder if he told them the reason they didn't stop? Anyone know why they didn't stop? There is a good answer 2 why they didn't stop.. go find it __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	God.. what a pathetic thread. df posts about a US soldier who claims to have killed civilians and prefers to depart from his military "career" and live in Canada. And.. what's the response?? A load of utter garbage and pigswill from those who complain the world "hates us" while demonstrating the biggest load of hate they can muster. Bloody hypocrites. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Worst place the guy could have went was Canada. I believe there is and agreement between Canada and the US that they will have to hand him over. He should have went to France or one of the other countries that greatly apposed the war. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.