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Old 01-06-2006, 03:54 PM   #1
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fuck americas medical system!

as many of you know I went to the hospital because I dropped some weights on my toes while lifting early last month.About 2 days ago I recieved a bill not from the hospital but from the doctor for treating me.SInce when in th fuck did doctors start billing seperate from the hospital? Fuck the bullshit,im moving to canada!
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Old 01-06-2006, 03:56 PM   #2
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It depends on their contract with the hospital. Normally, PPO health care systems take care of direct doctor billings like this situation.
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Old 01-06-2006, 03:58 PM   #3
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Old 01-06-2006, 04:00 PM   #4
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Sure move to Canada. Wait 4 days to get an appointment to checkout a broken bone.
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Old 01-06-2006, 04:01 PM   #5
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Wait till you get the hospital bill. They will bill you for the doctor, and the ER.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:36 PM   #6
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And of course you get to look forward to the bill from the radiologist who read your x-ray's, even after an ER doc or whomever checked them out in the ER.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:36 PM   #7
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shouldn't your insurance be taking care of all that?
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:37 PM   #8
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Damn, how much ??
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yeah the health system in the US likes to rape everyone up the pooper
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I broke my leg in the fall.. I think I'm up to about $10,000.
I still have another surgery ahead of me, so a simple broken leg = big bling.
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I broke my leg in the fall.. I think I'm up to about $10,000.
I still have another surgery ahead of me, so a simple broken leg = big bling.
You actually saying you have laid out $10K so far on a broken leg and an op to go yet??

Now.. PurrrsianPussyKat, was this a mangled leg needing a complete makeover or you just needed the bones fixed?

If the later.. sheesh, I'd expect a four month vacation for recovery in that package!

How is it that US medical centers can operate at one third of the cost outside US territory than in it?
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How is it that US medical centers can operate at one third of the cost outside US territory than in it?
probably because a hosptial is ran like a business. hospitals hands are tied when it comes to treating anyone regardless of insurance, so people who can pay get to pick up the slack for the non paying patients to insure profits. a bum gets hit by a car and rakes up a 100k in medical bills. who do you think pays that? the gov?
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as many of you know I went to the hospital because I dropped some weights on my toes while lifting early last month.About 2 days ago I recieved a bill not from the hospital but from the doctor for treating me.SInce when in th fuck did doctors start billing seperate from the hospital? Fuck the bullshit,im moving to canada!
as many of you know , i like to jerk off, last month it got so bad i siged up for some free membership porn site.. about 2 days ago i recieved a bill from the website. When the fuck did porn sites start charging for free memberships
Fuck this bullshit , i'm moving to thailand
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:02 AM   #15
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You actually saying you have laid out $10K so far on a broken leg and an op to go yet??

Now.. PurrrsianPussyKat, was this a mangled leg needing a complete makeover or you just needed the bones fixed?
A friend of mine paid a similar amount to fix a broken leg. It wasn't a "simple" broken leg, in that she needed surgery to have some metal hardware installed on the bone, but I think it was just one operation. No insurance either; I think her payments lasted five years or so.
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probably because a hosptial is ran like a business. hospitals hands are tied when it comes to treating anyone regardless of insurance, so people who can pay get to pick up the slack for the non paying patients to insure profits. a bum gets hit by a car and rakes up a 100k in medical bills. who do you think pays that? the gov?
It's the same elsewhere bringer... they are run as business and not supported by any govt. But the difference is the costs of care/surgery are around one third of the costs in the US. These are the same medical "chains" as in the US.

The medical and staffing rates sure are nowhere near one third. OK.. example... a heart bi-pass. Same quality of staff, same heart valve etc. It may be higher now, but the estimated cost in the US was around $70K. At that time the same medical centers - owned by US companies, but outside US jurisdiction, were pricing that op and aftercare at under $20K.

They are getting a fair amount of biz from US folks who travel (eg to Costa Rica) and have their bi-pass ops done here. None of this is govt supported. (There are "govt hospitals" as well which are free - and no waiting lists.)

Was just wondering what pushes the cost up to what seems almost a rip off level for healthcare - something that should be "accessible" in economic terms to anyone without loans spanning years.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:21 AM   #17
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A friend of mine paid a similar amount to fix a broken leg. It wasn't a "simple" broken leg, in that she needed surgery to have some metal hardware installed on the bone, but I think it was just one operation. No insurance either; I think her payments lasted five years or so.
Suppose if it's not quite straight-foward "bone fix" it could be "anything" in money terms arg. But sounds like the op you mention is a common one with a metal splint implant.
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as many of you know , i like to jerk off, last month it got so bad i siged up for some free membership porn site.. about 2 days ago i recieved a bill from the website. When the fuck did porn sites start charging for free memberships
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