What else should I do besides tgp galleries and freesites?

[clickhappy]

I make and submit 2 galleries a day and im starting freesites, but I still have more time after this and I can do more.

Im trying to hit $500 a day by the end of this year so I need more to do than just tgp galleries and free sites, and hit my goal faster.
But I dont know what else to do. Those are kind of the only 2 things I know about.

I could try avs sites but i dont have traffic to send them, except from my tgp galleries and freesites, and I think its better to use that traffic to promote paysites.
I tried making full page ads and buying google adwords traffic to send to them but I lost money on that after a month and stopped it.

any ideas on something I could do to complement my galelries and freesites?

[Andre]

Try your hand at SE. Lots to learn there.

[dissipate]

$500/day... thats pretty high

[maxjohan]

Learn how to convert your traffic first before you do anything else.

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by dissipate

$500/day... thats pretty high

in 12 months, by the end of december.
i can do it if I keep working and get the most out of the time I spend working.

[circlekhabib]

"I could try avs sites but i dont have traffic to send them, except from my tgp galleries and freesites, and I think its better to use that traffic to promote paysites"
no offense but this is fucked up logic and quite incorrect.

[Manowar]

open a program or become an "SEO"

everyone else does

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

"I could try avs sites but i dont have traffic to send them, except from my tgp galleries and freesites, and I think its better to use that traffic to promote paysites"
no offense but this is fucked up logic and quite incorrect.

then educate me.

As far as I know, if I make avs sites then id be depending on getting listed as a new site, which lasts a day, and then getting traffic from other members in the avs network

[vvq]

I would suggest getting partner accounts and doing way more than 2 galleries a day. Try bumping it up to 20-30+ hand submissions a day. Without partner accounts you will not be able to hit $500 a day just on galleries. I would also start your own little TGP and add your own recip on all of your galleries.

Invest a grand in templates from a third world designer and a grand in partner accounts. Keep the productive ones, ditch the shit. Stay focused and try not to go insane. Also promote Traffic Gigolos

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by vvq

I would also start your own little TGP and add your own recip on all of your galleries.

That's what I was going to suggest. As well as a linklist for the free sites. Then you have traffic coming in on both. Set up trades for your TGP's and linklists.

SEO the galleries and free sites you are submitting. Good luck

Bump my thread

and click my sig.

[kektex]

Also try SEO...blogs are great for this.And you can promote your own galleries in your blogs.

[Hardlinks]

Originally Posted by dissipate

$500/day... thats pretty high

You're pretty high too.

[DamageX]

Oh, oh, I know, I know!

[dissipate]

Originally Posted by Hardlinks

You're pretty high too.

Like you dont even know.

[abz]

see sigggy if you gonna be making lots of freesites and galleries you need lots of good content too

[wedouglas]

Originally Posted by dissipate

$500/day... thats pretty high

Ehh for just TGP i'd say that is a high ammount. I would never come close.

Other stuff, no, that isn't very high.

[Hardlinks]

Originally Posted by dissipate

Like you dont even know.

Dont know what?..What 500 a day looks like.

Nigga Please!

[Sly]

Since you're doing free sites, start a link list. Since you're doing galleries, start a TGP.

One of my mistakes was not making a link list when submitting free sites.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Sly

Since you're doing free sites, start a link list. Since you're doing galleries, start a TGP.

One of my mistakes was not making a link list when submitting free sites.

First sensible reply in this thread.

[Tom_PM]

Yes, you MUST start your own "fake tgp" and/or "fake LL" (or real ones if you enjoy reviewing crap all day, haha) and NEVER submit a gallery or free site without a recip to your own niche matching page!

Get a "bookmark this site" link on each niche page of your tgp/LL, and use FHG's and your own galleries (with recips back to tgp's/LL's so it's a real recip trade!) to fill in your niche pages. Make as much real text content as you can on each page. Dont make it spammy, just relevant.

Top lists are not much spoken of anymore these days, but look for some niche top lists and submit your tgp/LL to them as well.

If you do this, you'll get real human clicks coming in from the recips, feed the top lists to get return traffic, and get SE spiders all over you.

Try this frame of mind... TGP's and Link Lists are primarily for sending myself traffic. Sales made from them are the icing on the cake, but first I want the cake first!

I'm not saying to use your ad spots to advertise your own site, but thats how important it is to always be thinking ahead. Your marketing doesnt begin *and* end with making a gallery! It only begins there.

[Antonio]

that's simple, get another host, couple of more domains, 'dedicated' proxy and now you can double your daily submitions



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[circlekhabib]

"then educate me"
you fuckers always want everthing handed to you.
"As far as I know, if I make avs sites then id be depending on getting listed as a new site, which lasts a day, and then getting traffic from other members in the avs network"
no offense but your problem is this "as far as I know"
you don't know. you haven't tried so how the fuck could you.
damn quit listening to people who know fuck all about nothing.

the best money in avs is in selling the passes. the sites make
a good alternative site if a surfer doesn't want the paysite your
offering. so you do have traffic for them.
second of all. avs linklist traffic is prolly the best traffic there is.
thirdly most avs's suck balls, some shave and have fuck all for
linklist traffic.
the only one I recommend is sexkey.
what better alternative to your surfers than a free
sexkey membership.
sexkey's rules are far more lax than any free site linklist.
they even allow exit console chains.
sexkey has and still sends traffic consistently to my sites that have
been up for 4-5 years.
although it is best to have unique hard to find content,
sponsor crap is fine as well. full size samples are not
needed either. i don't use them.
fuck giving away more than you have to.
free porn is not your friend.
and
remember if you don't wanna send your own traffic to your tours
the search engines will over time.
sexkey only asks you make an effort to sell passes.

there's some food for thought for ya.
there's a saying I heard from a wise old bastard
dare to be different
never follow the crowd

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

"then educate me"
you fuckers always want everthing handed to you.

lol, then dont laugh at my shit if you dont want to say why youre laughing.

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

no offense but your problem is this "as far as I know"
you don't know. you haven't tried so how the fuck could you.
damn quit listening to people who know fuck all about nothing.

Last year after reading about the money people are making with avs, I did a big black avs, because the avs dude I talked to said thats a huge niche. So I dropped over $900 in designs and movie content and image content and traffic. I even paid a gfy'er $300 for some yahoo groups promotion thing, bought traffic, and promoted it myself. I mean I was serious about promoting this thing. After 4 months it was doing like 1:3,500 and I made $53. I felt like a retard and just deleted the whole thing cuz I was pissed.
Just telling you what happened.

thanks for the rest of your post, lol

[Sly]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

lol, then dont laugh at my shit if you dont want to say why youre laughing.




Last year after reading about the money people are making with avs, I did a big black avs, because the avs dude I talked to said thats a huge niche. So I dropped over $900 in designs and movie content and image content and traffic. I even paid a gfy'er $300 for some yahoo groups promotion thing, bought traffic, and promoted it myself. I mean I was serious about promoting this thing. After 4 months it was doing like 1:3,500 and I made $53. I felt like a retard and just deleted the whole thing cuz I was pissed.
Just telling you what happened.

thanks for the rest of your post, lol

Honestly $900 isn't very much to lose. Think about it, you're basically paying $900 to be educated on a new area. Pretty cheap really. You should have tweaked and modified it.

Oh, another thing, never ever delete a site unless you absolutely have to. It will make money over the years to come. Last year I made $800 from a shitty little site I built in 2003, took absolutely no work and put $800 in my pocket. Its like free money, the site already paid for itself in 2003. Oh, in 2004 the same site made me $1,200. That's $2,000 free, this year its made $50 so far. If it closes out at $500, even $300 I'll be plenty happy.

[circlekhabib]

naw I'm not laughing at you.
many tutorials and what is taught on boards has a hidden agenda.
your best interest is not included.
reread what sly posted and go learn ssi
and stay small and work your way up.
sly is very experienced, ive seen him grow his
empire since he started in biz. take what advice
he offers you. it won't have a hidden
agenda unlike 99% of those that post here
that are fuckwits or won't ever get past
the tgp mentality

[pawsregd]

Originally Posted by vvq

I would suggest getting partner accounts and doing way more than 2 galleries a day. Try bumping it up to 20-30+ hand submissions a day. Without partner accounts you will not be able to hit $500 a day just on galleries. I would also start your own little TGP and add your own recip on all of your galleries.

What he said. Also, get some paid gallery spots . Contact me and we can go over some of the spots we have available....see sig