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Old 01-31-2006, 06:25 AM   #101
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Old 01-31-2006, 08:36 AM   #102
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Your mistake is assuming that everyone in the world is paying 10 cents per gig. I just checked, example, blue gravity. $1.00 per gig (off their semi-dedicated page).

Your second mistake is assuming that serving 1 million images per day didn't somehow going to take away resources from other things. You are also forgetting server overhead, network overhead, etc.

In the meantime, Juicy, how are you doing on those guys? Do you feel bad because you have to review and approve each account and now you are on fusker?

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Old 01-31-2006, 09:10 AM   #103
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This kind of crap isn't anything new and if only one or two affiliates are going to see threads like this as more than just another chance to spam their sigs, where's the incentive for sponsors to deal with it?

Almost a week and three of this board's best-known sponsors are still up on that page and not a definitive comment from any of them. Pretty sad...
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Old 01-31-2006, 09:52 AM   #104
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In the meantime, Juicy, how are you doing on those guys? Do you feel bad because you have to review and approve each account and now you are on fusker?
Interesting point. That kind of defeats the purpose of reviewing and approving ?
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:41 AM   #105
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:26 PM   #106
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:54 PM   #107
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:19 PM   #108
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This kind of crap isn't anything new and if only one or two affiliates are going to see threads like this as more than just another chance to spam their sigs, where's the incentive for sponsors to deal with it?

Almost a week and three of this board's best-known sponsors are still up on that page and not a definitive comment from any of them. Pretty sad...
This brings up a good question. If you were getting paid pretty well by one of the sponsors on the page, would you stop using them because of their assumed continuous support of these kind of sites (passwords, warez, torrent, fusker, etc) ?
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:48 PM   #109
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pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:12 PM   #110
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This brings up a good question. If you were getting paid pretty well by one of the sponsors on the page, would you stop using them because of their assumed continuous support of these kind of sites (passwords, warez, torrent, fusker, etc) ?
I have done it several times. I visit GFY to catch up on the sponsor news that for whatever reason they choose not to mail out and to watch for threads like this. Sponsors' reactions, or lack of them, tell me much more about them than any self-promos.

There are no "golden" sponsors any more, so replacing one doesn't cost a thing. I cannot stop a sponsor who wants to help keep this industry like the wild west, just so he can bank a few more dollars this year. But I don't have to support him.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:26 PM   #111
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I have done it several times. I visit GFY to catch up on the sponsor news that for whatever reason they choose not to mail out and to watch for threads like this. Sponsors' reactions, or lack of them, tell me much more about them than any self-promos.

There are no "golden" sponsors any more, so replacing one doesn't cost a thing. I cannot stop a sponsor who wants to help keep this industry like the wild west, just so he can bank a few more dollars this year. But I don't have to support him.
In the case of AFF for example though, you spend a lot of time and money building a good recurring income with them. I know you're very well aware of how attached you can grow to a great recurring sponsor. I was asking myself the same question, as I posted it here. I do use AFF, and have a decent recurring with them. They seem to accept traffic from anyone, ethical (for whatever that seems to mean around here anymore) or not. I don't know the answer yet, whether I would drop them or not because they are continuing to support these Fuskers.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:26 PM   #112
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pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.
There are a lot webmasters that came into this business because the could sell ice to Eskimos. Some has a more technical background. Not everybody is technical enough to put up a hotlink protection, and it's not a requirement. Copyright theft is illegal, no matter how you look at it.

Supporting illegal sites like Fusker interferes with honest webmasters business.

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Old 01-31-2006, 04:14 PM   #113
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pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.
Honestly, that sounds like the answer of a man who would take money from anyone for anything.

If you bothered to read the thread, you would know I am already well protected, thanks very much, and that isn't the issue in the slightest.

The question comes to this: Why are the companies from some of the largest posters here comfortable to see their advertising on the pages of people who's sole business model is to steal from others?

I understand that "make money" theory, but affiliates should know that they are competing for those sales with people who have much lower costs than they do to do business, and steal to make sure it happens.

Sponsors should wake up. I am surprised that nobody has DMCA'ed a sponsor for aiding theft of copyright materials.

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Old 01-31-2006, 04:44 PM   #114
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Your mistake is assuming that everyone in the world is paying 10 cents per gig. I just checked, example, blue gravity. $1.00 per gig (off their semi-dedicated page).

Your second mistake is assuming that serving 1 million images per day didn't somehow going to take away resources from other things. You are also forgetting server overhead, network overhead, etc.
Whatever, like I said, if you don't want the traffic, I can take it.
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:15 PM   #115
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I was asking myself the same question, as I posted it here.
This business is very slowly maturing and eventually support of the kind of sites you mentioned will no longer be acceptable. But no-one can do more than guess at the timescale nor as to which sponsors will clean up their acts soon enough to remain successful. On the other hand you might switch to a a sponsor with higher professional standards but proves not to have what it will take to be around 10 years from now.

In the end I figure only time will tell if I made the right financial choice, so I might just as well do what I believe is right.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:12 PM   #116
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Lars replied in another thread, jayeff.

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Thats fine however when youa re the 21st most visited english site on the interenet and the largest affialite program by a factor of 10 over the next biggest affialite program, you get everyone piling on inclusigna lot of shitty thieves, we do our very best to address all complaints, And out of all companies we are actually one of the most conservative sites you will find we turn down traffic every day from sites, so you may not see it but I do and I know we go to great leangths to take care of this kind of thing. My in house Councel has informed me that a better email to send complaints to is

legal (at) friendfinderinc.com

so go ahead fire away any sites you feel are infringing and we will take the appropraite action.
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