What do you think of the new Proposed Internext Vegas 07 dates?? - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 02-28-2006, 06:26 PM

just got this email.........

"We've received initial feedback from some exhibitors suggesting that we
schedule Internext Las Vegas 2007, immediately following the Adult
Entertainment Expo (AEE) and CES. As a result, we've been able to secure
the Mandalay bay resort for January 15th - l7th, 2007. As suggested, these
dates would follow the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo, which runs January 10th
- 13th, 2007 and the CES, which runs January 8th - 11th, 2007.

Internext would exclusively occupy one level of the meeting space. This
meeting space is just a short walk from the Casino, not far like it was in
2005. The venue features flexible ballroom and meeting space that is
intimate and conducive to networking (not the traditional convention space
with exhibit halls). Registration, Seminars, Booths and other show features
will be located in a very close proximity.

With this in mind, please respond with your ideas and suggestions."

Pesonally I wouldnt mind if it overlapped with AVN and CES by a day or so....what are your thought on this ????????

After Shock Media · 02-28-2006, 06:27 PM

Honestly sounds good to me and a one day lapse between shows means a day off.

MrIzzz · 02-28-2006, 06:28 PM

Xbiz Is All I'm Saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Down With Avn!!!!!!!!!!

After Shock Media · 02-28-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

Xbiz Is All I'm Saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Down With Avn!!!!!!!!!!

you gave up your adult opinion when you left adult and went mainstream

Juicy D. Links · 02-28-2006, 06:29 PM

I aint attending that shit

Xbiz show in July i would rather attend

After Shock Media · 02-28-2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I aint attending that shit

Xbiz show in July i would rather attend

I will bet a dollar you will.

WiredGuy · 02-28-2006, 06:30 PM

I like it. Better than their old proposed date that would put it too close to Phoenix Forum and its during a time where Vegas won't be so packed and crowded. Personally, I'm in support of these dates.
WG

JFK · 02-28-2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I like it. Better than their old proposed date that would put it too close to Phoenix Forum and its during a time where Vegas won't be so packed and crowded. Personally, I'm in support of these dates.
WG

thank you for your constructive opinion

Peaches · 02-28-2006, 06:36 PM

W/O knowing what else is going on in Vegas during that time, on the surface it looks like perfect dates (and a pefect meeting all, though I usually need the excercise in Vegas...)

Juicy D. Links · 02-28-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

thank you for your constructive opinion

No prob anytime

JFK · 02-28-2006, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Honestly sounds good to me and a one day lapse between shows means a day off.

sounds to me like they are listening to webmaster concerns

After Shock Media · 02-28-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

sounds to me like they are listening to webmaster concerns

I agree with that statement. Though I still would rather see both shows under one roof I can deal with a hotel change if I must. Again at least they give me a day between shows to do that as well.

Sly · 02-28-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I like it. Better than their old proposed date that would put it too close to Phoenix Forum and its during a time where Vegas won't be so packed and crowded. Personally, I'm in support of these dates.
WG

I am in agreement with Mr. Guy.

JFK · 02-28-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I agree with that statement. Though I still would rather see both shows under one roof I can deal with a hotel change if I must. Again at least they give me a day between shows to do that as well.

I would like to see both shows under one roof as well

baddog · 02-28-2006, 07:15 PM

I'll be there either way

MandyBlake · 02-28-2006, 07:16 PM

i think a day between is good. i like the dates.

tony286 · 02-28-2006, 07:18 PM

how much will it be ? the summer one is 250 then it goes 300

JFK · 02-28-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

how much will it be ? the summer one is 250 then it goes 300

dont know yet

4Pics · 02-28-2006, 07:37 PM

Looks good, congrats for picking a better time. Now if they could just make it better for us to attend.

Jason · 02-28-2006, 07:41 PM

AVN is taking steps to better the shows.

I know because CECash was asked in detail about the future of the shows and where they can be better.

CECash has supported the AVN show since day one..

So.. Cut them a break.

TondaB · 02-28-2006, 07:45 PM

Interesting, that they would be listening now to what webmasters have to say. I think by changing the dates and putting it in a meeting hall, no exhibits etc, says alot about the state of the Internext shows.

kristin · 02-28-2006, 07:46 PM

Maybe I'm asking a dumb question but AVN is at the Venetian/Sands, correct?

RobbieRye · 02-28-2006, 07:46 PM

The dates seem better, but is it really worth it?

RawAlex · 02-28-2006, 08:35 PM

It depends on what the show is... but the dates are MUCH better, you could easily come in for AVN / CES if you wanted, and stay for the web show, or just come for the web show without issues. THe hotels should be massively cheaper that week, and the lineups at the best eats and drinks should be much more reasonable.

With CES ending on the 11th, it won't even be that hard to come in on the 12th and still get 1 day at the AVN show (and go to the awards show) and then do the web show right after.

With CES moving to a Monday to Wednesday, that sort of changes everything, don't it?

Alex

Niko Bimini · 02-28-2006, 08:46 PM

Doesn't matter to me. I vowed this year I would never go back!

And now with the new dates being so close to the Phoenix Forum dates..................its a no brainer for me. NO MORE AVNVegas!

Save your money and come to the Phoenix show which is a much better show anyway.

But thats just my

homegrownmof1 · 02-28-2006, 09:46 PM

I think AVN needs to be given credit for listening and trying to change for the positive.

GlamourGirlContent · 02-28-2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimini

Doesn't matter to me. I vowed this year I would never go back!

And now with the new dates being so close to the Phoenix Forum dates..................its a no brainer for me. NO MORE AVNVegas!

Save your money and come to the Phoenix show which is a much better show anyway.

But thats just my

Maybe a stupid question but I think I'm not online...
What are the dates for Phoenix??

Cash · 02-28-2006, 10:03 PM

It sounds very good, it would give the possibility to visit the other 2 as well ...

Peaches · 02-28-2006, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimini

Doesn't matter to me. I vowed this year I would never go back!

And now with the new dates being so close to the Phoenix Forum dates..................its a no brainer for me. NO MORE AVNVegas!

Save your money and come to the Phoenix show which is a much better show anyway.

But thats just my

They only moved it about 1.5 weeks - still 2.5 months away from the Phoenix show.

czarina · 02-28-2006, 10:26 PM

I am in support of anything BUT them.

Zprogramz · 02-28-2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

Xbiz Is All I'm Saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Down With Avn!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah right. Xbiz does a show in Vegas in the middle of July (can you say 120 degrees outside) in between 2 big shows (Cybernetexpo & Fl Internext) and you like that?

Those new proposed dates are good and Mandalay is great.

Z

DaddyHalbucks · 02-28-2006, 10:34 PM

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boneprone · 02-28-2006, 11:26 PM

They should go back to what worked in the past rather than try to mix and match a new formula with internext.

These past few years with the January have been horrible since trying new things.

Go back to pre-2003.

There's nothing wrong with the Venetian, granted it is not packed with competition from other shows the entire 3-4 days.

Competition with Hospitality Suites, resturants, exhibit rooms, and space in general.

GO back to how it was in the day. The shows were bigger, yet more comfortable and enjoyable.

boneprone · 02-28-2006, 11:36 PM

That cirlce bar at Mandalay Bay is horrible..... The music is way to much, and chilling and networking is difficult. Even with a scream as you talk back and forth, you cant hear one another. They have 30 minute breaks between the music, but its hardley enough.

One of the highlights of the Venetian year after year is the abilty to network and talk at the cirlce bar late at night. With the exception of this last year because it was packed due to a bone head scheduling of internext powers that be, but the circle bar is usually one of the best features of internext.

The circle bar or round bar at the Mandalay Bay is useless. So is the one at Venetian if the scheduling is that of which it was this past January.

Its not rocket science here people.. Yet year after year it blows my mind how clueless and careless the planning of internext goes, gradually getting worse and worse.

Changes for the worse, not the better seems to be the trend.
If its working, change it, and if it doesn work embrase it.. Seems to be the theme...

Not sure how they can justify all the wrong turns they have done over the years. YOu could just tell things wouldnt work before the show even started.

boneprone · 02-28-2006, 11:39 PM

And Im sure people will say that Vegas Internext is getting worse becasue of the change in market dynamics yada yada yada..

Not true..

Vegas Internext is getting worse year by year becasue of the decsions that are being made. Year after year.

And thats the bottom line.

RawAlex · 03-01-2006, 12:25 AM

Boneprone, I think that AVN could easily get the band excused for a few days to make the circle bar at MB work out... if that is the biggest complaint you have about going there, I am sure someone will take care of it.

Alex

reynold · 03-01-2006, 12:30 AM

i like the dates but i doubt if i can attend the event.

Elli · 03-01-2006, 12:34 AM

The dates are much, much better. And frankly I like the Mandalay rooms.

But the lack of the circle bar would be pretty sad. Hmmm...

Mr Pheer · 03-01-2006, 12:39 AM

I bet the show will have more turnout since more hotel rooms will be available and for cheaper prices instead of having the show during the biggest event in Las Vegas (the CES show)

2HousePlague · 03-01-2006, 12:41 AM

A little overlap was good for me. But then I enjoy mixing it up with outsiders, for business --

ronaldo · 03-01-2006, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Pesonally I wouldnt mind if it overlapped with AVN and CES by a day or so....what are your thought on this ????????

Ideally, that's what I'd like to see as well, but given the choice between that and identical dates, I'll take the one day break in between.

boneprone · 03-01-2006, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Boneprone, I think that AVN could easily get the band excused for a few days to make the circle bar at MB work out... if that is the biggest complaint you have about going there, I am sure someone will take care of it.

Alex

Ok.. Lets see..... Im almost certain nothing will be done.

And what about the ugly hookers???

Do you think AVN could bus in the better looking hookers from the Venetian to come hang at the Mandlay Bay for a few nights?

boneprone · 03-01-2006, 01:57 AM

On a serious note, nothing wrong with Mandalay Bay.. My point is why all the changes year after year.. Why tweak what was working, only to later find the changes didnt work.. Instead of going back to how things were, they build more on the previous mistakes rather than taking them back..

"THE HOTEL" makes the whole Mandlay Bay issue easier to swallow..
Without it the regular Mandlay Bay as a whole is subpar to the Venetian at many levels.

The whole feel of the show is not the same..

MikeSmoke · 03-01-2006, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone

The circle bar or round bar at the Mandalay Bay is useless. So is the one at Venetian if the scheduling is that of which it was this past January.
Changes for the worse, not the better seems to be the trend.
If its working, change it, and if it doesn work embrase it.. Seems to be the theme...

Agreed, and as long as we're talking about going back to the future, the NatNet Suite worked even better than the circle bar - maybe there's some way to recreate *that* without risking the debacle that sadly ended it.

JFK · 03-01-2006, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimini

Doesn't matter to me. I vowed this year I would never go back!

And now with the new dates being so close to the Phoenix Forum dates..................its a no brainer for me. NO MORE AVNVegas!

Save your money and come to the Phoenix show which is a much better show anyway.

But thats just my

did you actually read the dates I posted ??

JFK · 03-01-2006, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

I am in support of anything BUT them.

You need to keep an open mind

Phoenix · 03-01-2006, 07:15 AM

ill be in amsterdam...lol

Peaches · 03-01-2006, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Agreed, and as long as we're talking about going back to the future, the NatNet Suite worked even better than the circle bar - maybe there's some way to recreate *that* without risking the debacle that sadly ended it.

I was getting ready to mention the "old way" of networking between events

Too bad we started getting people into the industry who were classless enough not to know what a bidet is for.....

HAPPYPEEKERS · 03-01-2006, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I am in agreement with Mr. Guy.

As am I

JFK · 03-01-2006, 08:11 AM

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02-28-2006, 06:26 PM	#1
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	What do you think of the new Proposed Internext Vegas 07 dates?? just got this email......... "We've received initial feedback from some exhibitors suggesting that we schedule Internext Las Vegas 2007, immediately following the Adult Entertainment Expo (AEE) and CES. As a result, we've been able to secure the Mandalay bay resort for January 15th - l7th, 2007. As suggested, these dates would follow the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo, which runs January 10th - 13th, 2007 and the CES, which runs January 8th - 11th, 2007. Internext would exclusively occupy one level of the meeting space. This meeting space is just a short walk from the Casino, not far like it was in 2005. The venue features flexible ballroom and meeting space that is intimate and conducive to networking (not the traditional convention space with exhibit halls). Registration, Seminars, Booths and other show features will be located in a very close proximity. With this in mind, please respond with your ideas and suggestions." Pesonally I wouldnt mind if it overlapped with AVN and CES by a day or so....what are your thought on this ???????? __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

02-28-2006, 06:27 PM	#2
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02-28-2006, 06:28 PM	#3
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02-28-2006, 06:30 PM	#7
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02-28-2006, 07:16 PM	#16
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02-28-2006, 06:29 PM	#5
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I aint attending that shit Xbiz show in July i would rather attend

02-28-2006, 06:36 PM	#9
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	W/O knowing what else is going on in Vegas during that time, on the surface it looks like perfect dates (and a pefect meeting all, though I usually need the excercise in Vegas...)

02-28-2006, 07:15 PM	#15
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I'll be there either way

02-28-2006, 07:18 PM	#17
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	how much will it be ? the summer one is 250 then it goes 300

02-28-2006, 07:37 PM	#19
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Looks good, congrats for picking a better time. Now if they could just make it better for us to attend.

02-28-2006, 07:41 PM	#20
Jason Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,287	AVN is taking steps to better the shows. I know because CECash was asked in detail about the future of the shows and where they can be better. CECash has supported the AVN show since day one.. So.. Cut them a break. __________________ I stay busy.

02-28-2006, 07:45 PM	#21
TondaB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,162	Interesting, that they would be listening now to what webmasters have to say. I think by changing the dates and putting it in a meeting hall, no exhibits etc, says alot about the state of the Internext shows. __________________ ICQ: 61462417

02-28-2006, 07:46 PM	#22
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Maybe I'm asking a dumb question but AVN is at the Venetian/Sands, correct? __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

02-28-2006, 07:46 PM	#23
RobbieRye Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Middle of Nowhere Posts: 616	The dates seem better, but is it really worth it? Last edited by RobbieRye; 02-28-2006 at 07:48 PM..

02-28-2006, 08:35 PM	#24
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	It depends on what the show is... but the dates are MUCH better, you could easily come in for AVN / CES if you wanted, and stay for the web show, or just come for the web show without issues. THe hotels should be massively cheaper that week, and the lineups at the best eats and drinks should be much more reasonable. With CES ending on the 11th, it won't even be that hard to come in on the 12th and still get 1 day at the AVN show (and go to the awards show) and then do the web show right after. With CES moving to a Monday to Wednesday, that sort of changes everything, don't it? Alex

02-28-2006, 08:46 PM	#25
Niko Bimini Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vast Desert Wasteland aka Phoenix Arizona Posts: 2,372	Doesn't matter to me. I vowed this year I would never go back! And now with the new dates being so close to the Phoenix Forum dates..................its a no brainer for me. NO MORE AVNVegas! Save your money and come to the Phoenix show which is a much better show anyway. But thats just my __________________ ... ICQ# 264612090 Proudly hosting with www.MOJOHOST.com

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02-28-2006, 10:26 PM	#30
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	I am in support of anything BUT them.

02-28-2006, 10:34 PM	#32
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	1. I like Las Vegas in January, but any date overlapping the CES show is a disaster. So, if there are a few days in between, that is good. 2. Along these lines, I have a great domain for sale: AdultBusinessExpo.com EMAIL [email protected] Where X= DaddyHalbucks And Y= CS __________________ Boner Money

02-28-2006, 11:26 PM	#33
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	They should go back to what worked in the past rather than try to mix and match a new formula with internext. These past few years with the January have been horrible since trying new things. Go back to pre-2003. There's nothing wrong with the Venetian, granted it is not packed with competition from other shows the entire 3-4 days. Competition with Hospitality Suites, resturants, exhibit rooms, and space in general. GO back to how it was in the day. The shows were bigger, yet more comfortable and enjoyable. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 02-28-2006 at 11:29 PM..

02-28-2006, 11:36 PM	#34
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	That cirlce bar at Mandalay Bay is horrible..... The music is way to much, and chilling and networking is difficult. Even with a scream as you talk back and forth, you cant hear one another. They have 30 minute breaks between the music, but its hardley enough. One of the highlights of the Venetian year after year is the abilty to network and talk at the cirlce bar late at night. With the exception of this last year because it was packed due to a bone head scheduling of internext powers that be, but the circle bar is usually one of the best features of internext. The circle bar or round bar at the Mandalay Bay is useless. So is the one at Venetian if the scheduling is that of which it was this past January. Its not rocket science here people.. Yet year after year it blows my mind how clueless and careless the planning of internext goes, gradually getting worse and worse. Changes for the worse, not the better seems to be the trend. If its working, change it, and if it doesn work embrase it.. Seems to be the theme... Not sure how they can justify all the wrong turns they have done over the years. YOu could just tell things wouldnt work before the show even started. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 02-28-2006 at 11:38 PM..

02-28-2006, 11:39 PM	#35
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	And Im sure people will say that Vegas Internext is getting worse becasue of the change in market dynamics yada yada yada.. Not true.. Vegas Internext is getting worse year by year becasue of the decsions that are being made. Year after year. And thats the bottom line. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

03-01-2006, 12:25 AM	#36
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Boneprone, I think that AVN could easily get the band excused for a few days to make the circle bar at MB work out... if that is the biggest complaint you have about going there, I am sure someone will take care of it. Alex

03-01-2006, 12:30 AM	#37
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	i like the dates but i doubt if i can attend the event.

03-01-2006, 12:34 AM	#38
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03-01-2006, 12:39 AM	#39
Mr Pheer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,892	I bet the show will have more turnout since more hotel rooms will be available and for cheaper prices instead of having the show during the biggest event in Las Vegas (the CES show)

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03-01-2006, 01:57 AM	#43
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	On a serious note, nothing wrong with Mandalay Bay.. My point is why all the changes year after year.. Why tweak what was working, only to later find the changes didnt work.. Instead of going back to how things were, they build more on the previous mistakes rather than taking them back.. "THE HOTEL" makes the whole Mandlay Bay issue easier to swallow.. Without it the regular Mandlay Bay as a whole is subpar to the Venetian at many levels. The whole feel of the show is not the same.. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 03-01-2006 at 01:58 AM..

03-01-2006, 07:15 AM	#47
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