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vidsweb · 04-28-2002, 10:30 PM

Yeah, I could see them requiring NDAs because they might have existing clients that are currently paying way more than what they are about to offer you, and they don't want their current clients to know that they can get the same bandwidth for cheaper.

payrollpete · 04-28-2002, 10:31 PM

exactly

pimpshost · 04-28-2002, 10:41 PM

It is not a deal for everybody, therefore I cant publish the name of the provider. You'll probably figure out who it is when we launch the service. And, btw, no it is not Level 3, Verio, Global Crossing, or Exodus.

FATPad · 04-28-2002, 10:47 PM

Cogent's not dying.

You think Cicso pumped all that money into them and didn't realize there would a few year's delay in Cogent becoming a profitable company?

Cicso is not a stupid, and they are extremely well funded. They did not just jump into this whole Cogent business without knowing what to expect.

bash · 04-28-2002, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpshost
It is not a deal for everybody, therefore I cant publish the name of the provider. You'll probably figure out who it is when we launch the service. And, btw, no it is not Level 3, Verio, Global Crossing, or Exodus.

I'm a little confused. Your on one provider now, Cogent, and you have plans to bring in 2 more providers which you can not disclose because you claim both of them made you sign NDA's...

You say it is not level3 but yet you have a level3 button on your webpage?

http://cologroup.com/dedicated_serve...bandwidth.html

payrollpete · 04-28-2002, 11:08 PM

bash

they use level3 as a backup, incase cogent ever goes down, his customers never do.

bash · 04-28-2002, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
bash

they use level3 as a backup, incase cogent ever goes down, his customers never do.

Ok... Thanks. That makes more sense now... So, 100% of his network traffic is carried on Cogent... but he has a big old level3 pipe stashed away that carries no bandwidth because it is only there just incase Cogent goes down?

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bash

Ok... Thanks. That makes more sense now... So, 100% of his network traffic is carried on Cogent... but he has a big old level3 pipe stashed away that carries no bandwidth because it is only there just incase Cogent goes down?

Yes

payrollpete · 04-29-2002, 12:26 AM

i think it carries pipe as well

just not as much

i can't remember, he was telling me about it a month or 2 ago

but it's all good

we have a box with him for traffic stuff, hasn't been down yet

payrollpete · 04-29-2002, 12:26 AM

another perk they offer is remote booters

so if your server ever locks up or goes down, you can just login to a web based panel and reboot your server by pressing a button

very nice

pimpshost · 04-29-2002, 12:46 AM

Level3 is used as backup and Cogent is primary. Suprisingly, Cogent has been one of the most reliable providers I have had.

VeriSexy · 04-29-2002, 12:47 AM

All the telecoms are dieing and they are not making any money. There are only about 3 that make money. They rest will die and get bought cheap buy Sprint, Worldcom and AT&T.

I really like what Cogent has done. Without companys like Cogent pricing would never have come down like this. It only benefits us. Just like what AMD has done to Intel. Without AMD we would all be paying tripple and still be at sub 1Ghz levels.

We need more companys like Cogent to pop up. You can bash Cogent all you want but they are not as bad as you think. Due is right, people have more problems with their servers and software than with Cogent.

If there are only a few companys left we will be paying the roof for bandwidth. They spent billions on equipment and need to make the money back. They will have more power to raise prices.

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 01:04 AM

Yipes and Telseon do the same thing as Cogent, but nobody ever talks about them.

payrollpete · 04-29-2002, 01:11 AM

they probably don't have a big of network as cogent does

VeriSexy · 04-29-2002, 01:17 AM

Yipes is like $3000 for 10Mbps and Telseon I am not sure about. Yipes has far better peering than Cogent and from what I heard it's awesome but the prices are not even close to Cogent. Good to BGP them both though but you need 1000 IPs in order to apply for BGP and most carriers won't give you that many IPs unless you can prove usage.

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...ighlight=yipes

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...hlight=telseon

chodadog · 04-29-2002, 01:32 AM

Without knowing much about this situation.. From what's been presented in this thread, i'd have to go with Jason from cologroup. I'm hoping to get a server with you guys in a few months once i feel my site is in need of it's own server. (currently sharing a server with a friend on rackshack)

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
Without knowing much about this situation.. From what's been presented in this thread, i'd have to go with Jason from cologroup. I'm hoping to get a server with you guys in a few months once i feel my site is in need of it's own server. (currently sharing a server with a friend on rackshack)

Good choice. Get a dedicated server now. Its worth it.

chodadog · 04-29-2002, 02:35 AM

I'd be inclined to agree. But right now, i don't need it. And i'm not a big fan of spending money unless i have to.

Dualcpu · 04-29-2002, 02:57 AM

Pimpshost,

You are not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent.

Previously someone mentioned people only talk about how cheap Cogent is, no one mentions any other positive features.

I wonder if there are any?

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dualcpu
Pimpshost,

You are not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent.

Previously someone mentioned people only talk about how cheap Cogent is, no one mentions any other positive features.

I wonder if there are any?

True, he is biased because he is somewhat dependent on Cogent, but his post was the best and most informative post in this whole thread. Why are you gettin all nasty towards him?

Dualcpu · 04-29-2002, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vidsweb

True, he is biased because he is somewhat dependent on Cogent, but his post was the best and most informative post in this whole thread. Why are you gettin all nasty towards him?

Nasty? Obviously you don't know what that word means ;-)

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dualcpu
Pimpshost,

You are not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent.

I said you're getting nasty because you accuse him of claiming he was making an objective opinion. Can you show me where he ever said his opinion was objective?

Dualcpu · 04-29-2002, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vidsweb

I said you're getting nasty because you accuse him of claiming he was making an objective opinion. Can you show me where he ever said his opinion was objective?

Read carefully.
He is not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent as he uses them intensively himself.

Thank you for asking.

vidsweb · 04-29-2002, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dualcpu

Read carefully.
He is not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent as he uses them intensively himself.

Thank you for asking.

Pimpshost never said his view was objective. So why are you accusing him of it?

Snake Doctor · 06-15-2007, 04:12 PM

I know I'm bumping a really really old thread here, but I was searching for something else and came across this.

I find it hilarious how most of the "smart guys" in the hosting biz predicted that cogent would go out of business and bandwidth prices would go back up.

5 years later and cogent is still here and bandwidth is cheaper than it's ever been.

mattz · 06-15-2007, 04:21 PM

I'm guessing really cheap, I currently have 100mbps for 999 a month, so about 10 bucks per mbit

Snake Doctor · 06-15-2007, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattz

I'm guessing really cheap, I currently have 100mbps for 999 a month, so about 10 bucks per mbit

That's a pretty sick price, never seen one that low.

Who's it with? Managed or unmanaged? What are you paying for server rent etc?

04-28-2002, 10:30 PM	#51
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	Yeah, I could see them requiring NDAs because they might have existing clients that are currently paying way more than what they are about to offer you, and they don't want their current clients to know that they can get the same bandwidth for cheaper. __________________ Just give'r

04-28-2002, 10:41 PM	#53
pimpshost Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,052	It is not a deal for everybody, therefore I cant publish the name of the provider. You'll probably figure out who it is when we launch the service. And, btw, no it is not Level 3, Verio, Global Crossing, or Exodus. __________________ Jason (Vegas King Condo) Cell 702-371-8941 Web LuxuryinLasVegas.com - High Rise Condos

04-28-2002, 10:47 PM	#54
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Cogent's not dying. You think Cicso pumped all that money into them and didn't realize there would a few year's delay in Cogent becoming a profitable company? Cicso is not a stupid, and they are extremely well funded. They did not just jump into this whole Cogent business without knowing what to expect. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

04-29-2002, 12:46 AM	#61
pimpshost Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,052	Level3 is used as backup and Cogent is primary. Suprisingly, Cogent has been one of the most reliable providers I have had. __________________ Jason (Vegas King Condo) Cell 702-371-8941 Web LuxuryinLasVegas.com - High Rise Condos

04-29-2002, 12:47 AM	#62
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	All the telecoms are dieing and they are not making any money. There are only about 3 that make money. They rest will die and get bought cheap buy Sprint, Worldcom and AT&T. I really like what Cogent has done. Without companys like Cogent pricing would never have come down like this. It only benefits us. Just like what AMD has done to Intel. Without AMD we would all be paying tripple and still be at sub 1Ghz levels. We need more companys like Cogent to pop up. You can bash Cogent all you want but they are not as bad as you think. Due is right, people have more problems with their servers and software than with Cogent. If there are only a few companys left we will be paying the roof for bandwidth. They spent billions on equipment and need to make the money back. They will have more power to raise prices. __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

04-28-2002, 10:31 PM	#52
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	exactly

04-28-2002, 11:08 PM	#56
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	bash they use level3 as a backup, incase cogent ever goes down, his customers never do.

04-29-2002, 12:26 AM	#59
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	i think it carries pipe as well just not as much i can't remember, he was telling me about it a month or 2 ago but it's all good we have a box with him for traffic stuff, hasn't been down yet

04-29-2002, 01:04 AM	#63
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	Yipes and Telseon do the same thing as Cogent, but nobody ever talks about them. __________________ Just give'r

04-29-2002, 01:11 AM	#64
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	they probably don't have a big of network as cogent does

04-29-2002, 01:17 AM	#65
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Yipes is like $3000 for 10Mbps and Telseon I am not sure about. Yipes has far better peering than Cogent and from what I heard it's awesome but the prices are not even close to Cogent. Good to BGP them both though but you need 1000 IPs in order to apply for BGP and most carriers won't give you that many IPs unless you can prove usage. http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...ighlight=yipes http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...hlight=telseon __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com Last edited by VeriSexy; 04-29-2002 at 01:24 AM..

04-29-2002, 01:32 AM	#66
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Without knowing much about this situation.. From what's been presented in this thread, i'd have to go with Jason from cologroup. I'm hoping to get a server with you guys in a few months once i feel my site is in need of it's own server. (currently sharing a server with a friend on rackshack)

04-29-2002, 02:35 AM	#68
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I'd be inclined to agree. But right now, i don't need it. And i'm not a big fan of spending money unless i have to.

04-29-2002, 02:57 AM	#69
Dualcpu Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 488	Pimpshost, You are not in a position to provide any objective views on Cogent. Previously someone mentioned people only talk about how cheap Cogent is, no one mentions any other positive features. I wonder if there are any?

06-15-2007, 04:12 PM	#75
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I know I'm bumping a really really old thread here, but I was searching for something else and came across this. I find it hilarious how most of the "smart guys" in the hosting biz predicted that cogent would go out of business and bandwidth prices would go back up. 5 years later and cogent is still here and bandwidth is cheaper than it's ever been.

06-15-2007, 04:21 PM	#76
mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	I'm guessing really cheap, I currently have 100mbps for 999 a month, so about 10 bucks per mbit