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Kristian · 03-04-2006, 10:27 AM

Does registering a domain as private matter?

Kristian · 03-04-2006, 10:36 AM

Anyone know? If memory serves I believe it has a negative effect with google. That is also my gut instinct, especially with all the spammers and their splogs registering privately, through proxies.

jrap · 03-04-2006, 10:43 AM

I have at least a dozen private domains, and have not noticed any negative effects from any of the search engines.

Manowar · 03-04-2006, 10:48 AM

Some people say it does

DamageX · 03-04-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian

Anyone know? If memory serves I believe it has a negative effect with google. That is also my gut instinct, especially with all the spammers and their splogs registering privately, through proxies.

I have a feeling that such a practice would earn you a penalty only if combined with other practices deemed not to be fair play by them. Otherwise, dealing a penalty to all private-whois domain names would be throwing away the baby with the bathwater... Of course, I could be wrong, but that's what my common sense tells me would be logical to consider.

ssp · 03-04-2006, 10:49 AM

Once again, Manowar provides the world with the definitive answer.

Kristian · 03-04-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

I have a feeling that such a practice would earn you a penalty only if combined with other practices deemed not to be fair play by them. Otherwise, dealing a penalty to all private-whois domain names would be throwing away the baby with the bathwater... Of course, I could be wrong, but that's what my common sense tells me would be logical to consider.

That makes a lot of sense to me too. Unless anyone can provide something concrete against this view, I'll go with this and hope for the best.

baddog · 03-04-2006, 12:58 PM

never heard it does, but I will try to remember to ask and get back to you

Kristian · 03-04-2006, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

never heard it does, but I will try to remember to ask and get back to you

thanks baddog.

i went ahead with the privacy but would still like to have some facts.

baddog · 03-04-2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian

thanks baddog.

i went ahead with the privacy but would still like to have some facts.

Well, have to give you a firm "I don't know." Never really tested it. We had a couple that were private for a short period of time, but they aren't any longer so can't really say.

Sorry.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-04-2006, 01:35 PM

here would be my opinion.. when you need to figure something out about how google ranks.. just mock up a theoretical situation in your head..

If google had 2 sites that were "tied" in rank for everything , one had a whois with unique details ( i.e. a unique owner ) and one had a whois that also showed up on 1000 other domains, what site would likely be the most valid ?

Trax · 03-04-2006, 01:42 PM

Rabbitsreviews is using Domains by Proxy
nuff said

suesheboy · 03-04-2006, 02:24 PM

bad idea if you are looking to long term SE traffic.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-04-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

Rabbitsreviews is using Domains by Proxy
nuff said

only if the question is .. can a site be successfull and have a masked owner ?

I dont think anyone questions that.. The question was does it affect rank. Its quite obvious its not a "huge" factor in ranking.. but i certainly wouldnt say it has NO effect just yet..

StatsJunky · 03-04-2006, 02:34 PM

The real question is does google check things like whois info for domains? Aside from the basic things like the registration date and dns servers? That would be a huge amount of data to keep track of besides the simple numbers.

woj · 03-04-2006, 03:32 PM

Having hidden whois can't help it, and MAY give your site a slight penalty, so why risk it?

WiredGuy · 03-05-2006, 10:26 AM

I would think that how long the domain has been registered is worth more than the privacy feature. I can't say forsure though on whether the privacy thing hurts or not. Quite a few of my domains have privacy on them and they don't seem to be penalized for it.
WG

Juilan · 03-05-2006, 11:21 AM

think I remember something in the google patent about penalizing it...

Kevsh · 03-05-2006, 12:13 PM

Wow, an SEO question where no one claims to know the answer. ;)

Seriously, a very good point and worth looking into.

PussyTeenies · 03-05-2006, 12:24 PM

it doesn't matter
since google spiders the ip class and backlinks and keywords
never once heard of a googlebot doing a =whois on a domain first

Linkster · 03-05-2006, 01:14 PM

Google does use whois information - two years ago when buying DMOZ expireds was all the rage for backlinks they applied for and were recently approved as a Registrar. This gave them access to the whois with their bots, and so far all I can see that it has been used for has been for what some people call a sandbox - something I dont personally agree exists - but is an effect of a domain that someone uses being previously owned and a dampening effect for the new owner to prevent old links from counting.

(The "sandbox" appeared at the same time coincidently as the dampening effect for the prior registered domains so to me they have always just been the same thing)

As far as private registrations, I believe Matt Cutts mentioned that in his blog some time ago - http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/false-whois-data/ and basically distinguished between fake info and private info for his suggestions for reporting domains.

bdld · 03-05-2006, 01:25 PM

i haven't seen whois-privacy affect rankings, maybe in the future but not now. there are two other whois factors that affect domains though.

QuadsZilla · 03-12-2006, 02:41 PM

It has absolutely no baring in Google, Yahoo, or MSN. Any reports to the contrary are rubbish. Registering as private is preferred in case you want to sell the domain later, because changing the domain contact owner CAN have an effect (if it remains private, there is no visible change to the SEs)

Nookster · 03-12-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrap

I have at least a dozen private domains, and have not noticed any negative effects from any of the search engines.

I agree

03-04-2006, 10:27 AM	#1
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StatsJunky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Checking My Stats Posts: 639	The real question is does google check things like whois info for domains? Aside from the basic things like the registration date and dns servers? That would be a huge amount of data to keep track of besides the simple numbers. __________________ erik AT suthnet.com Last edited by StatsJunky; 03-04-2006 at 02:35 PM..

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03-04-2006, 10:36 AM	#2
Kristian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,733	Anyone know? If memory serves I believe it has a negative effect with google. That is also my gut instinct, especially with all the spammers and their splogs registering privately, through proxies.

03-04-2006, 10:43 AM	#3
jrap Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 448	I have at least a dozen private domains, and have not noticed any negative effects from any of the search engines.

03-04-2006, 10:48 AM	#4
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Some people say it does

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03-04-2006, 12:58 PM	#8
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	never heard it does, but I will try to remember to ask and get back to you

03-04-2006, 01:42 PM	#12
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	Rabbitsreviews is using Domains by Proxy nuff said

03-05-2006, 10:26 AM	#17
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,469	I would think that how long the domain has been registered is worth more than the privacy feature. I can't say forsure though on whether the privacy thing hurts or not. Quite a few of my domains have privacy on them and they don't seem to be penalized for it. WG __________________ I play with Google.

03-05-2006, 11:21 AM	#18
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03-05-2006, 12:13 PM	#19
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Wow, an SEO question where no one claims to know the answer. ;) Seriously, a very good point and worth looking into.

03-05-2006, 12:24 PM	#20
PussyTeenies Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Haarlem and Amsterdam, capital of the porn world ;-) Posts: 6,496	it doesn't matter since google spiders the ip class and backlinks and keywords never once heard of a googlebot doing a =whois on a domain first __________________ Need adult hosting? Contact us! WARM Hosting Need an IT solution? or someone to check your site and security? Nossie - IT Professional

03-05-2006, 01:14 PM	#21
Linkster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: DeltaHell Posts: 3,216	Google does use whois information - two years ago when buying DMOZ expireds was all the rage for backlinks they applied for and were recently approved as a Registrar. This gave them access to the whois with their bots, and so far all I can see that it has been used for has been for what some people call a sandbox - something I dont personally agree exists - but is an effect of a domain that someone uses being previously owned and a dampening effect for the new owner to prevent old links from counting. (The "sandbox" appeared at the same time coincidently as the dampening effect for the prior registered domains so to me they have always just been the same thing) As far as private registrations, I believe Matt Cutts mentioned that in his blog some time ago - http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/false-whois-data/ and basically distinguished between fake info and private info for his suggestions for reporting domains. __________________ Porn Links Crak for your bank account - Get Addicted FREE LIVE CAM SHOWS

03-05-2006, 01:25 PM	#22
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i haven't seen whois-privacy affect rankings, maybe in the future but not now. there are two other whois factors that affect domains though.

03-12-2006, 02:41 PM	#23
QuadsZilla Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 40	It has absolutely no baring in Google, Yahoo, or MSN. Any reports to the contrary are rubbish. Registering as private is preferred in case you want to sell the domain later, because changing the domain contact owner CAN have an effect (if it remains private, there is no visible change to the SEs) __________________ seoblackhat.com