is it possible to build a 500k + TGP/MGP today cleanly?

[MrIzzz]

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edit:::: start 1 today and build it quickly....


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[DanielS]

Only if you buy quality traffic and you're able to get quality trades...

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by max2003

Only if you buy quality traffic and you're able to get quality trades...

this has always been true. problem is where would one buy that much quality traffic per day?

[Snake Doctor]

There is a very fast way to get a 500K/day TGP.






















Buy a TGP that's doing 1 million a day.

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

this has always been true. problem is where would one buy that much quality traffic per day?

We can do it, however you might want to set aside $6-10,000 a month for traffic purchasing and be prepared to take a loss for several months.

But the answer is YES, we can do it and we have the traffic.

DH

[John Marco]

You could do it if you could invest about $30k/mo in traffic

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

There is a very fast way to get a 500K/day TGP.

Buy a TGP that's doing 1 million a day.

lenny!!!!!!!!!!

dude thats tooo funny but true as well

[defresto]

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

this has always been true. problem is where would one buy that much quality traffic per day?

If you have the budget to pay around 3.5$ per k for quality skimmed traffic it's no problem. I could get you 500k easily. If the budget is about 2$ per 1k it's hard but possible.

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

We can do it, however you might want to set aside $6-10,000 a month for traffic purchasing and be prepared to take a loss for several months.

But the answer is YES, we can do it and we have the traffic.

DH

yooooooooooo send me 500k a day for free and i will be your best friend

[John Marco]

Originally Posted by defresto

If you have the budget to pay around 3.5$ per k for quality skimmed traffic it's no problem. I could get you 500k easily. If the budget is about 2$ per 1k it's hard but possible.

He means a clean TGP with no skimmed trades, I believe, which would just rely on book markers and trades from text links... It would take a significant budget and at least a year to do this realistically

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by defresto

If you have the budget to pay around 3.5$ per k for quality skimmed traffic it's no problem. I could get you 500k easily. If the budget is about 2$ per 1k it's hard but possible.

hmmm, interesting. i dont have a budget for 500k bought traffic, but at least now i know someone may be able to handle it

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by John Marco

He means a clean TGP with no skimmed trades, I believe, which would just rely on book markers and trades from text links... It would take a significant budget and at least a year to do this realistically

yup, pretty much what i meant by clean. it would take purchasing alot of big hardlinks at first....

[defresto]

Actually there is a good strategy to see if the site is good.
I use it before launching any surfer-oriented project.
Small script that installes a cookie. You send like 20k of traffic and see how many come back.
Make changes to the site and send another 20k.
If you want to have a stable TGP people have to bookmark.
If you set 75% to galleries and your total prod from bought traffic and trades is about 400% and the external prod is good at the same time you could rocket your site to 500k also buying just around 50k a day the first 10-15 days.

[John Marco]

Originally Posted by defresto

Actually there is a good strategy to see if the site is good.
I use it before launching any surfer-oriented project.
Small script that installes a cookie. You send like 20k of traffic and see how many come back.
Make changes to the site and send another 20k.
If you want to have a stable TGP people have to bookmark.
If you set 75% to galleries and your total prod from bought traffic and trades is about 400% and the external prod is good at the same time you could rocket your site to 500k also buying just around 50k a day the first 10-15 days.

he doesn't want to skim AT ALL.. he wants the only trades to be from outgoing text links, so he won't be sending a lot of traffic to trades. The entire traffic would rely upon bookmarkers, which is really hard to do.. If you spent $1k/day on Google traffic (or another 'quality' traffic source), you could get around 20,000 hits.. probably about 10% bookmark a clean site.. do the math

your cookie idea is great btw

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by defresto

Actually there is a good strategy to see if the site is good.
I use it before launching any surfer-oriented project.
Small script that installes a cookie. You send like 20k of traffic and see how many come back.
Make changes to the site and send another 20k.
If you want to have a stable TGP people have to bookmark.
If you set 75% to galleries and your total prod from bought traffic and trades is about 400% and the external prod is good at the same time you could rocket your site to 500k also buying just around 50k a day the first 10-15 days.

do you have a link for that cookie script or is it custom?

[defresto]

Originally Posted by John Marco

He means a clean TGP with no skimmed trades, I believe, which would just rely on book markers and trades from text links... It would take a significant budget and at least a year to do this realistically

Ups sorry...
I just got used that mostly none of the TGPs exist now without trades.

Here are my calculations.
I have a small 100% trade free TGP where i run bookmarker-tests.
I now have about 3000 daily hits from bookmarkers only.
It's peanuts, but i didn't send a lot of traffic there, just tests.

If you buy 100k traffic you would have about 40 daily hits to your site after a month passes from that campaign. The web is overfilled with free TGPs nowdays and you won't get bookmarkers that easy even if you site rocks.
So to get 500k bookmarkers a day you have to buy:
1,250,000k.... * 3$ = 3 750 000 $$$

You can get traffic for free?
Fuck it -> sell it.

You can built a clean TGP, but it would be a bad investment.

[marketsmart]

i will tell you how when we launch our new product next month. the costs are minimal compared to other sources...

[defresto]

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

do you have a link for that cookie script or is it custom?

It's custom and it's now integrated in my management script (:
I have some nice scripts i use for myself, but i plan to give them away or sell later. They are all very simple, but very usefull at the same time.
If i have the time to make it a standalone script i'll give it to you.

[John Marco]

Originally Posted by defresto

Ups sorry...
I just got used that mostly none of the TGPs exist now without trades.

Here are my calculations.
I have a small 100% trade free TGP where i run bookmarker-tests.
I now have about 3000 daily hits from bookmarkers only.
It's peanuts, but i didn't send a lot of traffic there, just tests.

If you buy 100k traffic you would have about 40 daily hits to your site after a month passes from that campaign. The web is overfilled with free TGPs nowdays and you won't get bookmarkers that easy even if you site rocks.
So to get 500k bookmarkers a day you have to buy:
1,250,000k.... * 3$ = 3 750 000 $$$

You can get traffic for free?
Fuck it -> sell it.

You can built a clean TGP, but it would be a bad investment.

So your math is:

$350 gets you 40 bookmarkers
$3500 gets you 400 bookmarkers
$35000 gets you 4000 bookmarkers
$350000 gets you 40000 bookmarkers
$3.5mil gets you 400k bookmarkers?

So you paid $30k to get your 3000 bookmarkers?

[rotterdammer]

He propably filled the site with his own traffic

[defresto]

Originally Posted by John Marco

So your math is:
So you paid $30k to get your 3000 bookmarkers?

I used a different strategy and got good quality traffic cheap.
So i really spent about 3k$ for that and got abot 7.3k$ in sales.
But if i have sold those clicks i could get much more money.
So from the $$ side i am in +. If we take in consideration what this traffic was really worth i lost about 27k$ during this campaign.

The traffic i got to the site was high-quality textlinks clicks. It's rather hard finding a buyer who would pay something like 9$ per 1k textlink clicks.

[defresto]

Originally Posted by rotterdammer

He propably filled the site with his own traffic

That could also be an option. But i prefer to sell skimmed traffic rather then feed my tgp. Cause if you send your own traffic it doesn't mean it's free. It's free for you but you could get the money for it.

I just found a strategy to get $$ from purshasing ads and the textlinks clicks were for free for me. From an investment of about 3k$ i got about 3.2k$ direct sales and about 4k$ from the sales from this tgp. If i could sell that ammount of textclicks i got i would sureley done more $$.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by defresto

Ups sorry...
I just got used that mostly none of the TGPs exist now without trades.

Here are my calculations.
I have a small 100% trade free TGP where i run bookmarker-tests.
I now have about 3000 daily hits from bookmarkers only.
It's peanuts, but i didn't send a lot of traffic there, just tests.

If you buy 100k traffic you would have about 40 daily hits to your site after a month passes from that campaign. The web is overfilled with free TGPs nowdays and you won't get bookmarkers that easy even if you site rocks.
So to get 500k bookmarkers a day you have to buy:
1,250,000k.... * 3$ = 3 750 000 $$$

You can get traffic for free?
Fuck it -> sell it.

You can built a clean TGP, but it would be a bad investment.

Not necessarily, it just depends on the time you need to recoup the investment. Surely a 500K no skim site can make a nice chunk of change, if not from anything else then at least by selling gallery spots. But I do agree with you that the traffic needed for this would be worth more if sold by the K.

[2HousePlague]

What's a TGP -

2hp

[darksoul]

Originally Posted by defresto

It's rather hard finding a buyer who would pay something like 9$ per 1k textlink clicks.

Not really, I would buy it if its high quality, ofcourse it has to be better than
hunter's which is about 300 prod at $6/k
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[defresto]

Originally Posted by DamageX

Not necessarily, it just depends on the time you need to recoup the investment. Surely a 500K no skim site can make a nice chunk of change, if not from anything else then at least by selling gallery spots. But I do agree with you that the traffic needed for this would be worth more if sold by the K.

Well yes. Surelly if we calculate a ROI over let's say 5 years we would see that it is a good investment bringing something like 20% per year. But i can't calculate the amount of bookmarkers that will stay after a year...

Mostly big TGPs get their traffic from recips and free links. Big sites always get tons of free links, good SE positions and word of mouth. I have first heared about thehun.com from friends years back. But the times are different now.

There surelly exist ways of building clean TGPs nowdays, but i prefer quicker money. If you set something like 15% to trade that won't turn away that much of bookmarkers. It's more about the quality of galleries to earn bookmarkers then about skim ammounts.

[sumphatpimp]

we have way more than enough tgp's.
thank you for asking.

I would much rather spend that time, money and effort on little third world pigmys to build and mantain a network of blogs all interconnected, trading traffic, all niche.
then when you get that traffic up, the possibilities is endless.