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04-07-2006, 07:57 AM | #201 | |
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is he even a webmaster? thought he only messed with vbullentin and thought he was cool?
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just an update: awe is still screwing their webmasters on rebills
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but hey, they are "thinking" about changing the way they track rebills so dont worry about it, let em take as much money they can from their webmasters
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can some other camsponsor make a cobranded page named livejasmin so i can send my livejasmin elsewhere please?
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I was checking other cam programs on the rev share thingy....
Can't find anything about losing rebills on my customers. Any other cam rev share doing this or is AWE the only one.
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04-07-2006, 10:35 AM | #209 |
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"You earn 20% commission on all sales forever! Don't miss this opportunity to expand your revenue generation." Courtsey of Cams.com
Pretty clear about their rev share terms.
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I can't speak for every webmaster, but since the topic was beaten to death on their own board, I'd assume most know about it. Whether they made it clear or not we are still promoting them.
It's simple really: If you feel it's unfair, don't sign up. If you just found out and don't like it, pull your links and see if you make more somewhere else. If anyone knows CamSense, they start at 10% lifetime. To me, that's way too low and well below competitors. However, they convert and retain well so I stick with them. In the end, it's your choice. |
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"This program offers you 30% revshare on all sales forever! " clearly stated.
Hey, another program that offers 30%. You should really switch over to Big Cash Crew. CLICK HERE.
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We pay 30% rev share for life! It is tracked by DataBase not some bullshit cookie system. Our stats kick ass over all others so you can really optimize AND we have a great list of sites.
www.tricams.com www.topcams.com www.homesexnetwork.com www.livebycam.com www.ratedXcams.com www.clubXlive.com |
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this is about how this thread can be summed up.. you either understand what " 14 days" is , or you dont and want to whine and complain, make up hypothetical scenario's and imaginary stats.. Go with who pays you the most .. if you want to listen to the advice of people you dont know on your finances because they cant understand english, go for it. dont say i didnt warn you..
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not sure but i just made $117 off awe today, doesnt give me the referrer. AWE is a good program IMO
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Just imagine how much better it would be if you kept your customer for life.
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04-07-2006, 12:03 PM | #218 | |
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get over it , if you dont understand what 14 days means your an idiot.. we get your point , but as has been pointed out several times ITS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM get it ? you either make $$ or you dont , its not a difficult concept to grasp.. no reason to cut off your nose to spit your face because you dont understand it..
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Sure the bottom line is important, but I get really fed up with people who use terms like "whine and complain" when anyone raises questions about dubious business practises. I have had 10 years in this business and I'm tired of the constant suspicion that some of my income quietly disappears here, some of it there: never mind the times when sponsors, payment processors or whoever simply stop paying. We all work under that cloud yet every time someone bends or even breaks the "rules" there are always people queuing up to make excuses for them. We might as well hang out signs saying "Screw Me". |
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Well said... here here. I can't blame Smokey. He is pretty straight up on every other issue except this one. I just hope AWE changes their way.
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I basically agreed with most of the points brought up , but you have to take some of them with a grain of salt as they are given by people with their own agenda. what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams OR or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds..
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I have been promoting AWE since the days that they started with Livejasmin. I never had any trouble with them. Actually im doing pretty well with their program.
However I may have done better if they put the lifetime of their cookie a little higher. For my own paysites I use cookies + when a member registers the referral remains with the webmaster for ever. Our cookies stay for 9 months....
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Ouch! That lifetime recurring model would have been some nice extra chuck of cash. I am so tempted to post a screen cap of recurring members.
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04-07-2006, 12:24 PM | #224 |
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what people should really pay attention to in this thread is the people praising AWE , notice how quite a few of them are riding competing cam programs in their sig.. that should tell you something .. awe isnt for everyone , and its not a "catch all" solution to your cam traffic, its an established cam program that sells like hotcakes.. take the advice of people that know or the advice of people that dont..
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Tonight's Main Event SMOKEY THE BEAR AWE in his corner VS. Will76 ClickCash in his corner Who wins??????? |
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"what it boils down to folks you can get 20-30% of nothing for life with lots of programs sharing cams OR or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds.." The one thing you have been diligent about Smokey is finding and exposing sponsors who are cheating, deceptive and sneaky. First, show me the "many" other threads you elude to where the AWE 14 day cookie was discussed in detail on gfy, it hasn't been. Smokey, its not "most" other revshare cam programs that are for life, but "all" others. AWE is preying upon the fact that webmasters who promote cams automatically assume its lifetime revshare. They do not mention it anywhere on their site as Jay mentioned, this is deliberately deceptive as it should at least be mentioned in their terms and part of their program details. Smokey, forget about which is a better cam program, that has nothing to do with what is being discussed. It would just be nice to at least hear you say that AWE should have been more forthright in conveying to webmasters this important part of their compensation. I feel like when a company that is in your sig is being discussed you lose all sense of objectivity, the same thing happened in the spa cash discussions. |
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He keeps on posting and responding to keep this thread alive. Keeping this thread on top is doing alot of webmaster good.
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OR or you can make real cash with an established webcam program like awe with quality feeds..." I call that bashing other programs, but i'm sure you don't. Here's another of your quotes " does AWE try to hide the way it operates ? no" Bullshit again, they had to only talk about it when they got called out on their forum, its not listed anywhere on their site. Shouldn't a webmaster considering signing up for their program be informed of this before signing up? I'm not assuming you don't know much about the revshare cam scene, you admitted it in this thread. My point is, why comment on other revshare programs when you have admitted to knowing little to nothing about them and have never promoted them? I've searched and can't find the "many" threads you refer to where AWE has posted on gfy concerning their 14 day cookie policy. You made the claim, not I, so you find them. |
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I could care less i'm not employed by awe , and as i have repeated many times , i dont like this tracking method either.. i see no reason for everyone not to understand how it works.. everything else is just good advertising.. cam affiliates praising awe and haters not psting anything but drivel, who could ask for anything more.. especially when you have people with competiing cam sponsors in their sig praising awe in a flame thread..
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I declare this thread over.
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I just feel kinda stupid that I assume rev share is for life. I finally pulled my links. Hopefully, they can change their terms in the future.
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Working on quality post count....bump.
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Think about if a non-cam adult sponsor had a 50% revshare option. You'd naturally assume you got rebills for life, because thats always been the way adult sponsors work. Now, what if it was found out that a sponsor only gave the 50% revshare for the first three months, but decided not to disclose this to any of their webmasters. Once it was found out there would be an uproar and tons of pissed of webmasters, AWE did basically the same thing. |
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5 pages and still no one has figured out how to decide what sponsor to use?
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