Streamray/CAMS/AFF is giving away a Ferrari BUT WTF???!! - GoFuckYourself.com

evulvmedia · 08-11-2006, 09:59 PM

...they can't get a CAMS recorded iframe to resize properly, or loop... even after the problem is brought to their attention over a week ago:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=636288

the recorded video iframe is the ONLY plug-in tool they have that actually has in-motion video (which ya might think is important for a webcam site!!!)- and it don't work...

not that i really care that much, but it would be nice to have something to fill up some empty page space and which would have a reasonable chance of catching a surfers' attention and leading to sales... AFF geo-targeted banners don't do so well with that anymore because of the saturation... i tried gambling banners but they don't convert on porn sites...

the whole porno-webcam space could be sooooo much more of an income generator than it is... nobody is executing a sensible business plan in a good way...

Digipimp · 08-11-2006, 10:03 PM

It was 3 weeks ago that I posted it and all I can say is that I tried. I'm not a big enough fish to get much attention.

evulvmedia · 08-11-2006, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digipimp

It was 3 weeks ago that I posted it and all I can say is that I tried. I'm not a big enough fish to get much attention.

yeah, i see that even Lars responded in the thread but was "spaceboy travelling the galaxy" and didn't even understand the problem...

it's fucking stupid on their end to throw out so much money and not even fix such a small, easy-to-fix, and absolutely essential problem...

Digipimp · 08-11-2006, 10:07 PM

yep i agree, first problem i've ever had with them though, they've always been fast and cool with everything.

evulvmedia · 08-11-2006, 10:10 PM

oh, i actually just figured out the right way to solve this problem:

i go to some paysite sponsors...

get a webmaster access pass...

download the movies...

encode them to flash...

post them on my site with a link to cams.com...

and that's how cams.com should be promoted- with stolen content rather than dysfunctional ad tools!!!

ok, i'm moving along now, giving up on cams/streamray... the end!

thanks, digipimp, for your effort...

Digipimp · 08-11-2006, 10:29 PM

yeah i had to post and ask about it, i thought it was me just doing something wrong at first and couldn't get it to work. i figured having what appeared to be live video of a camgirl on a page would get some clicks for sure and when it's working if it ever is i will probably give it a try.

but in the meanwhile it's being passed up with other places offering more now

Xenophage · 08-11-2006, 10:38 PM

The video is not resizable that is something you have to build into flash a seperate flash player would have to be built it has never been able to resize the video.

Digipimp · 08-11-2006, 10:39 PM

Lars this text is directly from your affiliate promo tools area

"Use our recorded videos on your page:
Using an <iframe> tag, you can include a reference to one of our random recorded models videos.
Example Code:

<iframe src=" http://cams.com/go/page/cams_iframe_random_vid.html?pid=xxxxxxx" width="320" height="240" frameborder="0">

The default size of the video is 320 width x 240 height. The width of the video can be adjusted by adding the "&width=<value>" argument to the end of the URL (after the pid value). Widths can range from 40-640 pixels, and height will automatically adjust as well (the height is 75% of the width, or 4:3 aspect ratio). If you change the width (and therefore the height as well), the width and height values will need to be adjusted in the <iframe> tag as well."

It did resize in the past but I believe that was before your latest flash player update and it hasn't worked since then.

OzMan · 08-11-2006, 10:49 PM

I had "deja vu" set in my board tracker and it just went off...or is this an episode of the Twilight Zone destined to cycle continuously over and over until someone breaks the spell.

Xenophage · 08-11-2006, 10:55 PM

yes the website does say that and i am sorry it does, it is not possible at this time to do what it says, however i have passed this to my tech team fopr the 3rd time I hope they can come up with a solution, building a whole new flash player might be out of the question at this time given our current work load.

Xenophage · 08-11-2006, 10:57 PM

http://girlsgonewild.cams.com/

we have this one also but I dont think it was released as a general tool yet. Working on getting them to put this one up also.

OzMan · 08-11-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

oh, i actually just figured out the right way to solve this problem:

...download the movies...

encode them to flash...

..

etc

You hit the nail on the head. Downloadable Flash promotional video's and media feeds with nifty tricks built in are the next big thing and nobody has them at all yet (in Adult anyhow).

It's gonna be like RSS feeds were. Affiliates will scream for them for a year or two before Sponsors get around to adding them and even then most Sponsors will add them "just because someone said feeds are good" rather than understanding how to make them so they can be usable and unique for each affilate.

Not digging at AFF but Sponsors generally. They really need to have their finger on the "what is hot or what will be hot" pulse and not wait for a critical mass of affiliates to ask for something before they look into it.

evulvmedia · 08-11-2006, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

etc

...Not digging at AFF but Sponsors generally. They really need to have their finger on the "what is hot or what will be hot" pulse and not wait for a critical mass of affiliates to ask for something before they look into it.

Which brings it back to the fucking FERRARI issue! Is there anything that could more blantently say "we're gonna throw money at the problem but not really solve it"?

Heck, I don't care- promote cams or not promote cams- what's the difference to me- nothing! It's not my Ferrari or my $105 payouts that I'm throwing away.

It's just odd that a guy as well-respected and "legendary" as Lars doesn't see the complete lack of effective CAMS.com promo tools as an issue. Basically he's saying "I don't give a fuck if we have shitty promo tools. Here's my Ferrari instead."

It's a real shame because cams.com is real starting from the #1 position in the webcam market and right now it has so much potential that is not being exploited. They have such a strong presence among affiliates. They could use it but are not.

evulvmedia · 08-12-2006, 12:18 AM

OK, Lars, here is your technical solution in about three sentaces:

- Take the recorded video streams and ffmpeg them into different sizes at 30px multiples, i.e. 120px width, 180px, etc... up to, say, 360px or whatever.

- Have the iframe use the appropriate resized recorded stream based on the value of the &width= query string.

- Update the documentation on the CAMS.com affiliate tools page to reflect the fact that arbitrary widths are not allowed, only multiples of 30px between 120px and 360px.

One day of work- maybe two max- for one guy.

JustynErmouth · 08-12-2006, 03:00 AM

I noticed that on the player it has a bar across the bottom of player that says "Click Here To Sign Up" Right above where you type text in.

It does NOT link you to a sign up page.

Also when you hover over the player the cursor looks like if you click it, it will take you to a sign up page. But Doesnt. Looks like there is some work to be done.

But hey. If I was the owner and I was giving my ferrari away I would want the best Player to make conversions.

We added it to our sites and you have to click the text above the player to get directed to the sign up page. Need to be able to click the Player or at least the Button below the player window above the text box and have it direct you to the sign up page.

This would work nicely.

Rui · 08-12-2006, 05:07 AM

Wonder if the Ferrari was paid with the profits from the illegal sites they support...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=633351&page=5

08-11-2006, 10:03 PM	#2
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	It was 3 weeks ago that I posted it and all I can say is that I tried. I'm not a big enough fish to get much attention. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-11-2006, 10:07 PM	#4
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	yep i agree, first problem i've ever had with them though, they've always been fast and cool with everything. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-11-2006, 10:29 PM	#6
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	yeah i had to post and ask about it, i thought it was me just doing something wrong at first and couldn't get it to work. i figured having what appeared to be live video of a camgirl on a page would get some clicks for sure and when it's working if it ever is i will probably give it a try. but in the meanwhile it's being passed up with other places offering more now __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-11-2006, 10:39 PM	#8
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	Lars this text is directly from your affiliate promo tools area "Use our recorded videos on your page: Using an <iframe> tag, you can include a reference to one of our random recorded models videos. Example Code: <iframe src=" http://cams.com/go/page/cams_iframe_random_vid.html?pid=xxxxxxx" width="320" height="240" frameborder="0"> The default size of the video is 320 width x 240 height. The width of the video can be adjusted by adding the "&width=<value>" argument to the end of the URL (after the pid value). Widths can range from 40-640 pixels, and height will automatically adjust as well (the height is 75% of the width, or 4:3 aspect ratio). If you change the width (and therefore the height as well), the width and height values will need to be adjusted in the <iframe> tag as well." It did resize in the past but I believe that was before your latest flash player update and it hasn't worked since then. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

08-12-2006, 03:00 AM	#15
JustynErmouth MyXXXEmpire Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 237	I noticed that on the player it has a bar across the bottom of player that says "Click Here To Sign Up" Right above where you type text in. It does NOT link you to a sign up page. Also when you hover over the player the cursor looks like if you click it, it will take you to a sign up page. But Doesnt. Looks like there is some work to be done. But hey. If I was the owner and I was giving my ferrari away I would want the best Player to make conversions. We added it to our sites and you have to click the text above the player to get directed to the sign up page. Need to be able to click the Player or at least the Button below the player window above the text box and have it direct you to the sign up page. This would work nicely. __________________ ICQ# 169327

08-11-2006, 09:59 PM	#1
evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	Streamray/CAMS/AFF is giving away a Ferrari BUT WTF???!! ...they can't get a CAMS recorded iframe to resize properly, or loop... even after the problem is brought to their attention over a week ago: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=636288 the recorded video iframe is the ONLY plug-in tool they have that actually has in-motion video (which ya might think is important for a webcam site!!!)- and it don't work... not that i really care that much, but it would be nice to have something to fill up some empty page space and which would have a reasonable chance of catching a surfers' attention and leading to sales... AFF geo-targeted banners don't do so well with that anymore because of the saturation... i tried gambling banners but they don't convert on porn sites... the whole porno-webcam space could be sooooo much more of an income generator than it is... nobody is executing a sensible business plan in a good way...

08-11-2006, 10:10 PM	#5
evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	oh, i actually just figured out the right way to solve this problem: i go to some paysite sponsors... get a webmaster access pass... download the movies... encode them to flash... post them on my site with a link to cams.com... and that's how cams.com should be promoted- with stolen content rather than dysfunctional ad tools!!! ok, i'm moving along now, giving up on cams/streamray... the end! thanks, digipimp, for your effort...

08-11-2006, 10:38 PM	#7
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	The video is not resizable that is something you have to build into flash a seperate flash player would have to be built it has never been able to resize the video.

08-11-2006, 10:49 PM	#9
OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	I had "deja vu" set in my board tracker and it just went off...or is this an episode of the Twilight Zone destined to cycle continuously over and over until someone breaks the spell.

08-11-2006, 10:55 PM	#10
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	yes the website does say that and i am sorry it does, it is not possible at this time to do what it says, however i have passed this to my tech team fopr the 3rd time I hope they can come up with a solution, building a whole new flash player might be out of the question at this time given our current work load.

08-11-2006, 10:57 PM	#11
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	http://girlsgonewild.cams.com/ we have this one also but I dont think it was released as a general tool yet. Working on getting them to put this one up also.

08-12-2006, 12:18 AM	#14
evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	OK, Lars, here is your technical solution in about three sentaces: - Take the recorded video streams and ffmpeg them into different sizes at 30px multiples, i.e. 120px width, 180px, etc... up to, say, 360px or whatever. - Have the iframe use the appropriate resized recorded stream based on the value of the &width= query string. - Update the documentation on the CAMS.com affiliate tools page to reflect the fact that arbitrary widths are not allowed, only multiples of 30px between 120px and 360px. One day of work- maybe two max- for one guy.

08-12-2006, 05:07 AM	#16
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Wonder if the Ferrari was paid with the profits from the illegal sites they support... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=633351&page=5