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alan-l · 05-07-2006, 01:17 AM

Man, I've never EVER seen these kind of stats

TODAY:
4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

Other programs
3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

Same traffic, same kind of gallery (4x movies ultra clean galleries)

It's a shame, because their content rocks, but money talks and so far their sales barely cover the BW since I started promoting them, so... guess I just need to move out

martinsc · 05-07-2006, 01:19 AM

sounds bad...

xclusive · 05-07-2006, 01:21 AM

have you talked with them?

alan-l · 05-07-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive

have you talked with them?

nope. why would I? They will start to convert all of the sudden? If so, then we've a problem, I can live with them not converting, I'm not drama prone, they don't sell... well, move on, there are hundreds of affiliate programs out there. And thousands of affiliates, so not a big loss for anyone

SomeCreep · 05-07-2006, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

Man, I've never EVER seen these kind of stats

TODAY:
4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

Other programs
3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

Same traffic, same kind of gallery (4x movies ultra clean galleries)

It's a shame, because their content rocks, but money talks and so far their sales barely cover the BW since I started promoting them, so... guess I just need to move out

what kind of traffic?

alan-l · 05-07-2006, 01:56 AM

galleries

Cyrano · 05-07-2006, 01:57 AM

Damn, I wanted to promote their sites.

SomeCreep · 05-07-2006, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

galleries

Every TGP/MGP I see is already flooded with Juggcash galleries. Maybe that's why your conversions are bad.

alan-l · 05-07-2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Every TGP/MGP I see is already flooded with Juggcash galleries. Maybe that's why your conversions are bad.

well, that's once of the possible explanations I was thinking about, but that would explain people not going to join page. However, once people reaches join page massively... I don't know, I'd think about processor problems, ultrahard scrubbing, bad luck... either way, it sucks.

No big deal, just posting my LAST experience with them the same way I signed because of some hip with stats, which I know 90% of times are fake or "reverse shaved" (yes, I wasn't born yesterday). Anyway, move on, nothing to see here, guess just ranting

babymaker · 05-07-2006, 02:44 AM

You get a good gallery to join ratio. I am always surprised by the difference between sponsors too, it's real strange sometimes, same everything except sales :D

on a side but related note, what would people consider a good 1st to 2nd page ratio??? Out of webmasters hand i know but what do you consider acceptable before moving on?

David - PG · 05-07-2006, 03:16 AM

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

TODAY:
4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

Other programs
3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

Trax · 05-07-2006, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

Manowar · 05-07-2006, 03:47 AM

damn those are brutal

More Booze · 05-07-2006, 05:08 AM

1:1157
Traffic comes from galleries and blogs.

andrej_NDC · 05-07-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

Shags · 05-07-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

well, that's once of the possible explanations I was thinking about, but that would explain people not going to join page. However, once people reaches join page massively... I don't know, I'd think about processor problems, ultrahard scrubbing, bad luck... either way, it sucks.

Have you ever considered thumb on tour are linking to the join page?

Digipimp · 05-07-2006, 09:03 AM

Something is up with their stats for sure, I checked it out and found something interesting. Keep your eyes on this one.

King Adam · 05-07-2006, 09:05 AM

I emailed the affilaite manager just now with this thread. I have noticed the same thing.

madawgz · 05-07-2006, 09:28 AM

damn that ratio makes me throwup

alan-l · 05-07-2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

well, I could do that if I want, and believe numbers would be worse. However, when you use the same layout, traffic and evrything, then it's a pretty fair comparisson. Let's measure it another way if you want: all other programs, when surfer gets to join page, 1 out or 200 get their wallet off his pocket. In Juggcash case, at least yesterday, it seems to be 1 in 4200+. Like it better?

Digipimp · 05-07-2006, 03:20 PM

mine have been just as bad, icq me alan

Nismo · 05-07-2006, 03:22 PM

Mine were just as bad, so I had to quit promoting them. Sucks cause they have some of the hottest content around.

bdld · 05-07-2006, 04:08 PM

thats interesting, i was planning on using them too

gfx3 · 05-07-2006, 04:21 PM

I am also planning to stop promoting them. Sent over 2000 clicks with 0 sales.
Perhaps big boobed milfs aren't selling so good as we were thinking, perhaps they aren't kinky enough.
My traffic is tgp traffic and all other programs I promote do convert.

Sosa · 05-07-2006, 04:23 PM

I haven't been able to convert them lately.

candyflip · 05-07-2006, 04:24 PM

I stopped sending traffic as well, once ratios started going south like that.

sonofsam · 05-07-2006, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx3

I am also planning to stop promoting them. Sent over 2000 clicks with 0 sales.
Perhaps big boobed milfs aren't selling so good as we were thinking, perhaps they aren't kinky enough.
My traffic is tgp traffic and all other programs I promote do convert.

what if you get 3 sales in the next 1000 uniques u send?

2000 clicks is not enough to test a sponsor.

Digipimp · 05-07-2006, 04:33 PM

They use NATS and their stats show first page raw and unique, and then join page unique. So try using one of your own linking codes or a FHG and see how it tracks your clicks.

Join page clicks are showing up as qualify=1 and then showing in your stats as 1st page uniques as a result. So what are the join uniques? And then isn't the first page unique actually your join page unique since join page is showing as qualify=1 if you follow your own linking codes and FHG gallery links?

Seems very interesting to me but what do I know anyway.

scotty2hotty1111 · 05-07-2006, 04:40 PM

check out sig

ninavain · 05-07-2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld

thats interesting, i was planning on using them too

interesting..I just sign up last week to start promoting

Miguel T · 05-07-2006, 06:57 PM

Those are some nice ratios...

Quotealex · 05-07-2006, 07:37 PM

wrong postr

Juilan · 05-07-2006, 09:05 PM

Started out with a bang then 1:2312

sfera · 05-07-2006, 09:07 PM

this whole month suck balls. good thing for rebills christ a fuckin mighty

juggcash is kickin ass though retains well

AznRx8 · 05-08-2006, 05:59 AM

Well actually you guys aren't alone first week i went
Raw Unique RAtio Join Ratio
1813 1579 1:315 423 1:85

Now
3925 3405 0:3405 822 0:822

polish_aristocrat · 05-08-2006, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

David - PG · 05-08-2006, 06:26 AM

I am not suprised you don't understand a thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

Fabien · 05-08-2006, 07:23 AM

zero sales so far

bigdog · 05-08-2006, 07:31 AM

they do have some nice looking sites

djroof · 05-08-2006, 07:33 AM

Hmmmm something wrong there

y0nki · 05-08-2006, 08:10 AM

I know i haven't sent much traffic, so it's nothing to brag about, but last month i had pretty good ratios for my traffic, Brazzer and Cheeks are solid and hardworking people, and imho they created a badass affiliate program.

Clean Porn Movies · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

Have anyone check if the billers are processing fine?
also check my stats for JuggCash http://www.partnerpass.com/sponsor.juggcash/index.html

justsexxx · 05-08-2006, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG

I am not suprised you don't understand a thing.

Interesting you act like that....Trax is a pretty serious webmaster. Also he meant it pobably as a joke, since I don't know what you guys track, but it must be 8498448 page unqiues. Of course what matters are the sales, but tke it easy jeez

David - PG · 05-08-2006, 08:47 AM

I don't care what or who Trax is. His comment is misleading and tells me he should not comment on things he obviously only has vague assumptions about.

Perfectgonzo made first page uniques available since day 1 = December 2003. You can click every date in the stats display and see first page uniques for that date. Ratios (!) are calculated based on join page uniques (or as you scientifically called it "8498448 page unqiues"). What on earth does this have to do with tracking or the accuracy of tracking?

I'm sorry if I hurt anybodys feelings I just don't like fact and fiction being confused when it comes to our company.

David

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Interesting you act like that....Trax is a pretty serious webmaster. Also he meant it pobably as a joke, since I don't know what you guys track, but it must be 8498448 page unqiues. Of course what matters are the sales, but tke it easy jeez

Brazzer · 05-08-2006, 09:09 AM

Some people are doing good , others are doing bad , its the name of the game...We convert very good on almost everybody's traffic. Since we launched , we've only went up in terms of total sales , rebills etc .

Instead of posting on boards , and complaining about bad ratios , why not hit us up and work with us to make this a successful venture ? We are experts in the traffic game , and we know our sites better than anyone, we can help you make things better im sure.

The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

seoguy · 05-08-2006, 10:32 AM

This is what sponsors always say, hit us up first and we'll help in order to get things better. I just find it strange that I have the same problems at exact the same time. It started really great and since a few days not a single sale and about 1:3000, before it was like 1:800 and I made a few sales daily. I just think it's strange.

Roald · 05-08-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazzer

...........

The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

Get back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man I can't wait ;)))

Digipimp · 05-08-2006, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazzer

Some people are doing good , others are doing bad , its the name of the game...We convert very good on almost everybody's traffic. Since we launched , we've only went up in terms of total sales , rebills etc .

Instead of posting on boards , and complaining about bad ratios , why not hit us up and work with us to make this a successful venture ? We are experts in the traffic game , and we know our sites better than anyone, we can help you make things better im sure.

The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

Been there done that. I like the sites and all though.

sake · 05-08-2006, 11:56 AM

JuggCash are good guys, they convert!

digifan · 05-08-2006, 11:59 AM

I am not happy with my stats either...

05-07-2006, 01:17 AM	#1
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	Juggcash stats? Man, I've never EVER seen these kind of stats TODAY: 4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale Other programs 3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday) 7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st) 4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st) Same traffic, same kind of gallery (4x movies ultra clean galleries) It's a shame, because their content rocks, but money talks and so far their sales barely cover the BW since I started promoting them, so... guess I just need to move out

05-07-2006, 01:19 AM	#2
martinsc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27,047	sounds bad... __________________ Make Money

05-07-2006, 01:21 AM	#3
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	have you talked with them? __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

05-07-2006, 02:44 AM	#10
babymaker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: philly Posts: 4,751	You get a good gallery to join ratio. I am always surprised by the difference between sponsors too, it's real strange sometimes, same everything except sales :D on a side but related note, what would people consider a good 1st to 2nd page ratio??? Out of webmasters hand i know but what do you consider acceptable before moving on? __________________ $99mo Hosted CMS From ElevatedX! ICQ 293125596

05-07-2006, 09:03 AM	#17
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	Something is up with their stats for sure, I checked it out and found something interesting. Keep your eyes on this one. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

05-07-2006, 01:56 AM	#6
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	galleries

05-07-2006, 01:57 AM	#7
Cyrano Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 900	Damn, I wanted to promote their sites.

05-07-2006, 03:47 AM	#13
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	damn those are brutal

05-07-2006, 05:08 AM	#14
More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	1:1157 Traffic comes from galleries and blogs.

05-07-2006, 09:05 AM	#18
King Adam Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 5,408	I emailed the affilaite manager just now with this thread. I have noticed the same thing. __________________ TWISTYSCASH.com - Proven to be One of the BEST Adult Programs Around Promote These Sites : Twistys ~ Busty Ones ~ Nicole Graves ICQ : 9 6 4 4 0 2 2 1

05-07-2006, 09:28 AM	#19
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	damn that ratio makes me throwup __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

05-07-2006, 03:20 PM	#21
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	mine have been just as bad, icq me alan __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

05-07-2006, 03:22 PM	#22
Nismo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,977	Mine were just as bad, so I had to quit promoting them. Sucks cause they have some of the hottest content around. __________________ i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

05-07-2006, 04:08 PM	#23
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	thats interesting, i was planning on using them too

05-07-2006, 04:21 PM	#24
gfx3 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,685	I am also planning to stop promoting them. Sent over 2000 clicks with 0 sales. Perhaps big boobed milfs aren't selling so good as we were thinking, perhaps they aren't kinky enough. My traffic is tgp traffic and all other programs I promote do convert. __________________

05-07-2006, 04:23 PM	#25
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	I haven't been able to convert them lately.

05-07-2006, 04:24 PM	#26
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	I stopped sending traffic as well, once ratios started going south like that. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

05-07-2006, 04:33 PM	#28
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	They use NATS and their stats show first page raw and unique, and then join page unique. So try using one of your own linking codes or a FHG and see how it tracks your clicks. Join page clicks are showing up as qualify=1 and then showing in your stats as 1st page uniques as a result. So what are the join uniques? And then isn't the first page unique actually your join page unique since join page is showing as qualify=1 if you follow your own linking codes and FHG gallery links? Seems very interesting to me but what do I know anyway. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

05-07-2006, 04:40 PM	#29
scotty2hotty1111 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: sacramento Posts: 1,113	check out sig __________________ ICQ - 278931233 Giving up is just NOT an option

05-07-2006, 06:57 PM	#31
Miguel T ♦ Web Developer ♦ Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Full-Stack Developer Posts: 12,472	Those are some nice ratios... __________________ Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

05-07-2006, 07:37 PM	#32
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	wrong postr

05-07-2006, 09:05 PM	#33
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	Started out with a bang then 1:2312 __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

05-07-2006, 09:07 PM	#34
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	this whole month suck balls. good thing for rebills christ a fuckin mighty juggcash is kickin ass though retains well

05-08-2006, 05:59 AM	#35
AznRx8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 142	Well actually you guys aren't alone first week i went Raw Unique RAtio Join Ratio 1813 1579 1:315 423 1:85 Now 3925 3405 0:3405 822 0:822 __________________

05-08-2006, 07:23 AM	#38
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	zero sales so far

05-08-2006, 07:31 AM	#39
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	they do have some nice looking sites

05-08-2006, 07:33 AM	#40
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,402	Hmmmm something wrong there

05-08-2006, 08:10 AM	#41
y0nki Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 325	I know i haven't sent much traffic, so it's nothing to brag about, but last month i had pretty good ratios for my traffic, Brazzer and Cheeks are solid and hardworking people, and imho they created a badass affiliate program.

05-08-2006, 08:13 AM	#42
Clean Porn Movies Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 162	Have anyone check if the billers are processing fine? also check my stats for JuggCash http://www.partnerpass.com/sponsor.juggcash/index.html __________________ 6 exclusive sites from www.bbwdollars.com. 4 BBW sites + 2 Big Tits/Pornstars sites! BBW sites: BBW Superstars, Plompers, Fatty Blowjobs, Milla Monroe. Big Tits/Pornstars sites: Big Tits Genie, Big Boobs In Your Face.

05-08-2006, 09:09 AM	#45
Brazzer Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 400	Some people are doing good , others are doing bad , its the name of the game...We convert very good on almost everybody's traffic. Since we launched , we've only went up in terms of total sales , rebills etc . Instead of posting on boards , and complaining about bad ratios , why not hit us up and work with us to make this a successful venture ? We are experts in the traffic game , and we know our sites better than anyone, we can help you make things better im sure. The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details. __________________ Brazzer icq: 255-069-099 webmaster(at)juggcash(dot)com

05-08-2006, 10:32 AM	#46
seoguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 381	This is what sponsors always say, hit us up first and we'll help in order to get things better. I just find it strange that I have the same problems at exact the same time. It started really great and since a few days not a single sale and about 1:3000, before it was like 1:800 and I made a few sales daily. I just think it's strange.

05-08-2006, 11:56 AM	#49
sake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,646	JuggCash are good guys, they convert!

05-08-2006, 11:59 AM	#50
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	I am not happy with my stats either... __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks