Etelegate.com would like to apologize for the delay in your June 15th payout

[Gerco]

Nice.. I get a email from etelegate about June 15th payments going out... I have never authorized them to make any rebills or anything else for my company. I have pulled all my Ibill links, signups and members long ago. But they are rebilling accounts now that can not even access my sites. Even though I have sent them repeted letters not to.

I have never received a payment from etelegate, how could I, I have never signed up to their service, or given them any company or banking information to send me a payment. How can they be rebilling customers, and NOT even have a way to add or remove uysernames to my members area? Bunch of crooks if you ask me. Just something else to add to my IC3 complaint against Ibill.

[Gerco]

Well, it's now gets better....

In the email they provided me a username and pass to enter their CMI...

AND they have been processing for my site! even though they have NO access to add or remove members!

Total Value Approved Declined Rebilled Cancelled
$7,068.89 (213) $5,731.29 (172) $1,337.60 (41) $5,396.30 (163) $4,183.84 (125)
Checks Credit Cards New Sales Percent Approved
$324.25 (15) $6,744.64 (198) $1672.59 (50) 81.08%

Un fucking believable. Nice of them to be making money off me without my permission. AND of course no way to actually collect any of the money they would owe me without signing up to thier service. I did notice that around april, the charges they maded stopped saying Ibill transfer, and went to thier own system....

What I really would like to know is how they are processing the "NEW SALES" as shown. New sales from where? There is NO Fucking button anywhere on my join page to them or Ibill. Now, I'm totally confused.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Gerco

Well, it's now gets better....

In the email they provided me a username and pass to enter their CMI...

AND they have been processing for my site! even though they have NO access to add or remove members!

Total Value Approved Declined Rebilled Cancelled
$7,068.89 (213) $5,731.29 (172) $1,337.60 (41) $5,396.30 (163) $4,183.84 (125)
Checks Credit Cards New Sales Percent Approved
$324.25 (15) $6,744.64 (198) $1672.59 (50) 81.08%

Un fucking believable. Nice of them to be making money off me without my permission. AND of course no way to actually collect any of the money they would owe me without signing up to thier service. I did notice that around april, the charges they maded stopped saying Ibill transfer, and went to thier own system....

What I really would like to know is how they are processing the "NEW SALES" as shown. New sales from where? There is NO Fucking button anywhere on my join page to them or Ibill. Now, I'm totally confused.

They have Ibill database ... They just run random charges, as needed to cover their expenses and salaries ...

In no fucking way I am going o sign an agreement with my personnal data with these crooks ...

Contact your members, and tell them to c/b . Put a notice in your members area ...

Why couldn't they just steal the money, and vanish forever ????

http://www.ibillsucks.info

[wyldblyss]

I would certainly be interested in hearing more on this subject. Anyone else experiencing this?

[Gerco]

Originally Posted by wyldblyss

I would certainly be interested in hearing more on this subject. Anyone else experiencing this?

full email....

Dear Gerco Inc,


Etelegate.com would like to apologize for the delay in your June 15th payout. It has been brought to our attention that the reason you have not been paid is for one of the following reasons:



The username/password you have entered in the website section of your admin area does not allow Etelegate to access your content for your website(s).
The Etelegate payment page integration link on your website(s) is either not working or not found.
Your website(s) are not working.
The merchant contract has not been signed, scanned and uploaded in your admin area.


Please correct any of the above 4 issues that apply to your company and email us a reply to this email or create a support ticket when finished, so our risk department can verify you?re in compliance and your June 15th payment will be processed immediately. Once you?re in compliance, your future payments will not be delayed.



It has been a challenge with the migration from IBILL to Etelegate, and we thank you for your loyalty and patience in this transition. Etelegate would also like to advise you that you may call our office from 10a.m. PST-5p.m. PST Mon-Friday for all of your client services needs and help you to get compliant so that we can continue processing your transactions and making on time payments.



Etelegate will be offering many new features to our webmasters by the end of this month including ePassporte direct payments, weekly payments on Fridays instead of bi-monthly payments currently, email receipt and order page customization, advanced re-billing options, Discover and JCB payment options, and many more to come.



We appreciate your continued support and look forward to you resolving the above issue(s) so that we can process your payment. Thank you for your business.



Sincerely,



Etelegate.com

1-800-676-0127

[DEA - banned for life]

fuckin joke cant get in touch with a live person..there emails are all computer automated....scam scam scam...call the police ..im being robbed !

[gooddomains]

could someone just end this Ibill drama please

[JFK]

Originally Posted by gooddomains

could someone just end this Ibill drama please

What ever happened to the authorities?? They should stop these scamming bastards. Charge them with Fraud like they deserve it. Or perhaps they are just sitting back laughing because it adult related billing and they dont give a fuck ??

[Gerco]

Originally Posted by JFK

What ever happened to the authorities?? They should stop these scamming bastards. Charge them with Fraud like they deserve it. Or perhaps they are just sitting back laughing because it adult related billing and they dont give a fuck ??

LOL!!!!! This shit just never ends

I just got of the phone with my "NEW" Ibill rep about this Etelegate issue etc... He told me, and I quote "If I'm looking for another processor I should look at Verotel" Then went on to tell me that Etelegate is about to loose both visa and mastercard, so Ibills been warning all clients calling in to stay AWAY from them.

Then he told me to sign up with them, (Etelegate) get any money owed, email him to close my account to remove further rebilling. becase in his words, etelgates not going to be around much longer. Still... not a chance I'm signing up to anything Etelegates offering, I'm not about to give them any sort of writen consent and bed with them in any way.

On the Payouts for past due amounts, they have to refure all clients to Ibills attorney in charge of the the case, A Philip Hutson phone number 305-374-3330.

On top of that, back in November I had an argument with Micheil Whitman, my (at the time) account rep. over the original agreement made to get paid and wondering where my payout was. At that time she could not find any information on my saying that I had even entered into an agreement with them, But magically today they found it? ANd sent me a screen shot of it with my Sid, showing the word agreed on it. I asked them to produce the actual written document with my signature, and show me it also, so that we are on the same page, cause if we are then they are of course in breach of contract. But im really just curious to see if they have entered me in as accepted on the new agreement without my actual written approval.

Now, I realise that I'm not going to see a sent, but It's kind of like a soap opera at this point.

[Pron Don]

that sucks, fuck them!

[XPays]

the real owners are all offshore and probably are laughing

to them

[Shark]

And to top it off...


Message:
Dear ******,

As with so many of our clients, you have receievd this mass email, because Etelegate?s merchant bank are withholding funds, and they are unable to make payout to their clients.

We will continue to inquire about the payout.

Thank you,
[email protected]

Say no more...

[Jensen]

Originally Posted by JFK

What ever happened to the authorities?? They should stop these scamming bastards. Charge them with Fraud like they deserve it. Or perhaps they are just sitting back laughing because it adult related billing and they dont give a fuck ??

second that.. how the fuck can they just keep doing this?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JFK

What ever happened to the authorities?? They should stop these scamming bastards. Charge them with Fraud like they deserve it. Or perhaps they are just sitting back laughing because it adult related billing and they dont give a fuck ??

Exactly my thoughts. Has anyone told the police about this scam?

I give up with Visa and MC.

[oxford1]

You wil NEVER GET all you money..thier MO is to tap into your good nature (not wanting to belive people could be this evil)..you get fucked....then they (the pimp) after slappping your asss et.al. says he loves you and hes sorry.....and promises to make it up to you...etc. ad nauseum....

Per my other posts I again swear to you I know these guys personally...they fuck me for much more than you posted

I wonder if Dennis or Andrew, or Gary jr and his swinging wife monitor these posts.....

[scottybuzz]

hahahahhaha ibill suck!

[samo]

All webmasters owed money by etelegate should file a complaint at the Internet Crime Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/ This is the direct link to the form you need http://complaint.ic3.gov/Default.aspx

Anyone who got his rebills transfered from IBILL to ETELEGATE, and who has not been paid by ETELEGATE should file ASAP. This is the only way to put the mother fuckers in jail. Dont be scared to file. IC3 is not interested on the content on your site. They just want to know about how you got scamed by etelegate.

Please file today, dont let the bastards enjoy your hard earned money.

[SilentKnight]

After hundreds of threads and literally thousands of posts about the various scams and frauds iBill and Etelegate have pulled in the past few years with webmasters around the world - I still can't fathom why anyone is dealing with these criminals.

Its just fucking unbelievable.

Gerco, I advise that you record all phone conversations you have with either iBill or Etelegate reps. Log and document EVERYTHING. Build up your arsenal of evidence against them...whatever it may be. If you plan to take any legal action - you'll need everything you can get.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

After hundreds of threads and literally thousands of posts about the various scams and frauds iBill and Etelegate have pulled in the past few years with webmasters around the world - I still can't fathom why anyone is dealing with these criminals.

Sounds like the banks won't be for much longer. I pity the webmasters that fell for the "send us more sales and we'll pay you" pitch.

[samo]

Etelegate.com is a registred in the state of Arizona as ETELGATE ARIZONA LLC. Click the link below if you want to see the papers on file with the state of Arizona. If you are owd money, contact the Arizona state attorney or the IC3. Its time we fight back.

http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgii...790&type=L.L.C.

[John69]

ETELERAPE her today gone tomorrow.

With your money!

[DEA - banned for life]

bump for the crooks ....Gary watch your back bitch...its coming

[Barefootsies]

[lovkraft]

Read Samo's posts in this and other threads. He explains how to file an official complaint - if you guys don't do it, there will be no hard justice for these fuckers.

So file a complaint!

go to ibillowes.com for discussion only about ibill and etelegate.

[lovkraft]

Samo, how did you find out that the company is registered in Arizona? According to the contract on eTelegate's admin interface, they are registered in Delaware.

"Etelegate LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, whose principal office is located at 29 Harley Street, London, England W1G 9QR"

Dodgy as fuck.

[lovkraft]

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[samo]

Originally Posted by lovkraft

Samo, how did you find out that the company is registered in Arizona? According to the contract on eTelegate's admin interface, they are registered in Delaware.

"Etelegate LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, whose principal office is located at 29 Harley Street, London, England W1G 9QR"

Dodgy as fuck.

The information regarding ETELEGATE is listed within ibill finicial statment located at http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...9/ibd10qsb.htm

On March 27, 2006, the Company entered into an agreement to outsource its payment processing services to Etelegate Arizona LLC (Etelegate), an Arizona limited liability company. As a result of the agreement, the Company?s revenue will be primarily derived from transactions processed by Etelegate for both the Company?s clients that existed at the date of the agreement as well as new clients that are signed up after the date of the agreement.

[Dagwolf]

Glad we didn't go with them.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by lovkraft

Samo, how did you find out that the company is registered in Arizona? According to the contract on eTelegate's admin interface, they are registered in Delaware.

"Etelegate LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, whose principal office is located at 29 Harley Street, London, England W1G 9QR"

Dodgy as fuck.

Interesting they are still using this company and address on their website:

Mailing Address:
Etelegate, Ltd.
29 Harley Street
London W1G 9QR

29 Harley Street is a maildrop and the company "Etelegate Limited" is a UK entity which was dissolved at UK Companies House.

Dodgy as what?

[Webby]

"Etelegate LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, whose principal office is located at 29 Harley Street, London, England W1G 9QR"

Damn.. nothing is a surprise somehow.. we are back to corporate paper-shuffling and the usual deception.

We got an Arizona LLC put together by "Rand Haddock of 2927 North 34th Place, Mesa, Arizona" and one declared member, "David Kaushagen of 8687 East via de Ventura #303, Scottsdale, Arizona" which is the also the registered address of Etelegate Arizona LLC.

We got a TOS on their website that does not state the actual company clients are dealing with - simply, Etelegate.

We got at least three company names being used, Etelegate LLC, Etelegate Ltd, Etelegate Arizona LLC (where one of these three is already a dissolved company) and at least three sets of addresses (where one is a maildrop in a country not related to either LLC).

In addition, we got Etelegate LLC (Delaware) who wants the client contracts signed in their name, - tho iBill only have a deal (according to SEC filings) with Etelegate Arizona LLC and where Etelegate LLC claim their principal place of business is a maildrop at 29 Harley Street, London.

Sounds like time someone paid a visit to this "principal place of business" with a warrant to remove all paperwork.

For convenience sake, if any UK-based webmasters have entered into any dealings with iBill/Etelegate (in whatever form) and are owed funds - there are gentleman ready to work on your behalf at a location near Harley Street. Their address is 27 Savile Row, London and their phone number is (020) 7437 1212. They are very good and like Etelegate, provide a service 24 hours/day, 365 days/year - best of all - it's FREE!





Why should I use etelegate.com?
· No upfront fees - Never in doubt - why have an obstacle course to fraud?
· Hassle free same day set up - No problem, we bill cards without that.
· Password-Member Management - Not necessary - we bill clients anyway.
· Process Credit Cards, Checks, Web 900 blah - True, but we forget to pay.
· Timely and Reliable Settlements - Untrue.
· Weekly payments by Wire transfer, Check or ACH - A myth.
· Real-Time reporting on your transactions - Maybe.
· Advanced antifraud protection - the client needs that more than Etelegate.
· 24/7/365 customer support for Vendors and Customers - Vaguely, sort of.
· One time & recurring payments - Of course, we take all funds we can grab.
· Low rates and fees - The kind nobody would accept - another myth.

What type of merchants does etelegate.com accept?
ECommerce, adult, MOTO, and any business selling legal products or services. As an offshore processor, we specialize in high risk merchant processing.

As an "offshore processor" eh? Dream on