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Old 07-20-2006, 01:07 AM   #1
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a U.N. base , dozens of children and a water well

a U.N. base , dozens of children and a water well

What do these things have in common..

All of them have been hit by israeli rockets in "self defense" not to mention the hundreds of civilians and the 8 young IDF soldiers that were killed the first day as they drove over a landmine invading a country over 2 kidnapped soldiers ..

If you live in israel , vote no to murder. if you live in lebanon do the same..
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:08 AM   #2
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You are all infidel dogs.
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:08 AM   #3
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:08 AM   #4
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p.s. make love not war.

like groooovy man
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:08 AM   #5
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Bomb 'em all. Sort it out with a clean board. A GIGANTIC FUCKING PARKING LOT FOR MY BIGASSED AMERICAN SUV!

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Old 07-20-2006, 01:09 AM   #6
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You are all infidel dogs.
what about my cat ? he cant be an infidel dog..
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:11 AM   #7
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Who was it that provided the rockets again??

UN? Na... UK... Na... US?? Bingo!
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:15 AM   #8
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Who was it that provided the rockets again??

UN? Na... UK... Na... US?? Bingo!
i agree that they sure didnt help things , but do you blame winchester when a nutjob shoots up the local mcdonalds ?
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:22 AM   #9
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i agree that they sure didnt help things , but do you blame winchester when a nutjob shoots up the local mcdonalds ?
Na Smokey. Tho the problem is a bit wider than just Israel. When ya got nations pressing others to arm up, - even tho many can't actually afford it and even tho it's predictable they will be a problem in the end - all for the sake of earning some money, it leaves a bad taste.

The US, although it supplies more arms worldwide than all other nations combined, it not alone in this. Same with a few Euro countries in particular.

Arms trading by individuals is despised, but with countries it becomes "legal" and an "achievement" in trading?
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:41 AM   #10
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I agree with Smokey. I think Israel should just tolerate the Hizballah terrorists on it's northern border and should never ever try to defend itself.

Just kidding. I don't really agree with him.
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:01 AM   #11
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lol, yeah threir defending themselves allright, by killing hundreds of innocents
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lol, yeah threir defending themselves allright, by killing hundreds of innocents
As usual, it's up to good old Lazonby to do the thinking.

You've failed to grasp two points.

1. If Israel was targeting civilians, they would have killed far more than the 300 or so over the last 10 days.

2. Hizballah deliberately hides amongst civilians so that they can capitalise on the media hype when they are attacked and innocents inevitably die. This media hype only works because of people like you, who for whatever reason, are unable to understand the situation.
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:47 AM   #13
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As usual, it's up to good old Lazonby to do the thinking.

You've failed to grasp two points.

1. If Israel was targeting civilians, they would have killed far more than the 300 or so over the last 10 days.

2. Hizballah deliberately hides amongst civilians so that they can capitalise on the media hype when they are attacked and innocents inevitably die. This media hype only works because of people like you, who for whatever reason, are unable to understand the situation.
at least someone understands...

but it's not worth your time man....
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As usual, it's up to good old Lazonby to do the thinking.

You've failed to grasp two points.

1. If Israel was targeting civilians, they would have killed far more than the 300 or so over the last 10 days.

2. Hizballah deliberately hides amongst civilians so that they can capitalise on the media hype when they are attacked and innocents inevitably die. This media hype only works because of people like you, who for whatever reason, are unable to understand the situation.
Start thinking harder. There is no such organisation as Hizballah.

1. Who said or claimed Israel was targeting civilians? If the did, there would be more reaction than so far.

2. The concept that Hezbollah "deliberately hides amongst civilians" is your opinion. They are no different to the IRA, CIA, al Queda, ETA or Mossad.
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Old 07-20-2006, 03:08 AM   #15
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As usual, it's up to good old Lazonby to do the thinking.

You've failed to grasp two points.

1. If Israel was targeting civilians, they would have killed far more than the 300 or so over the last 10 days.

2. Hizballah deliberately hides amongst civilians so that they can capitalise on the media hype when they are attacked and innocents inevitably die. This media hype only works because of people like you, who for whatever reason, are unable to understand the situation.

phew glad you pointed that out , i guess baby killing is justified , my bad..

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What happens in every other civilised society in the world when a bad guy runs into a house that has civilians in it.. ?

A) negotiations.

B) drop bombs on them.

hmmm not hrd to figure that one out..

Only an idiot thinks a 90% civilian death toll is "self defense" or "justified" in any way.

All this is over 2 kidnapped soldiers.. A whole family of canadians on vacation were killed , does that give cananda the right to invade israel and kill 90% civilians as retrobution ?
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Old 07-20-2006, 03:31 AM   #16
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phew glad you pointed that out , i guess baby killing is justified , my bad..
Some stats on these deaths Smokey... Around 4070 Palestinians and 1084 Israelis have been killed since 2000.

Approx 724 of these deaths have been Palestinian children and 121 Israeli children are included in the total figures for Israeli deaths.

The actual current stats - to date -

for Palestine at the Red Crescent site:

http://www.palestinercs.org/crisista...of_figures.htm

and for Israel at the IDF site:

http://www1.idf.il/SIP_STORAGE/DOVER/files/7/21827.doc

Above is a pain in the ass .doc file - but shows:

Killed Since 29.09.2000 Updated 15.01.2006

Security Forces Civilians Total
323 761 1084
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There is no such organisation as Hizballah
care to elaborate?

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1. Who said or claimed Israel was targeting civilians? If the did, there would be more reaction than so far.
well, that's what terrorists do... and many idiots here claim that Israel is a terrorist state....
glad to hear you are not one of them...
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All this is over 2 kidnapped soldiers..
guess Israel values it's soldiers and citizens more than other countries...

people should have known it by now, and act appropriately... then everything would be ok.
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plus it started because two kidnapped soldires, plus 3 dead, and 2 wounded...
get your facts together smokey...
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care to elaborate?

well, that's what terrorists do... and many idiots here claim that Israel is a terrorist state....
glad to hear you are not one of them...
My bad - never knew the name could have two spellings - Hezbollah or Hizbollah - they need to make up their mind what they fuck they are called. Branding is important

"Terrorists".. assuming Hezbollah will claim whatever is to their benefit - the same as Israel or any country - nothing new there. Propaganda was never the killer. You may remember the US claimed Saddam baked babies in the desert? Little is sacred when it comes to bullshit.

PS ... Israel, the US and approx another four countries consider Hezbollah a "terrorist organisation" - the rest either don't or have reservations on that.
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As usual, it's up to good old Lazonby to do the thinking.

You've failed to grasp two points.

1. If Israel was targeting civilians, they would have killed far more than the 300 or so over the last 10 days.

2. Hizballah deliberately hides amongst civilians so that they can capitalise on the media hype when they are attacked and innocents inevitably die. This media hype only works because of people like you, who for whatever reason, are unable to understand the situation.
For every civilian Israel kills, they create many more who want to destroy it.

Hezbollah don't hide amongst civilians because they have this plot to drum up media, they do it because they don't want to get blown to a million little pieces.
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plus it started because two kidnapped soldires, plus 3 dead, and 2 wounded...
get your facts together smokey...
oh shit my bad , that would explain sending 8 IDF soldier rolling over a landmine invading a country they dont belong in.. great strategy.
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guess Israel values it's soldiers and citizens more than other countries...

people should have known it by now, and act appropriately... then everything would be ok.

yup damn those stupid babies getting in the way of the israel rockets. those babies should have known better..

I really would like to hear how you think murdering babies is "acting appropriately"

Only a complete racist would even attempt to brush off baby killing as justified in any fashion whatsoever..

I notice you didnt even attempt to answer any of the questions i posed earlier.

If your kids were in daycare and a bank robbery took place and the robber ra into the daycare would you think it would be "justified" for the police to drop a 1 ton bomb on the daycare ?

At what point is israel just ethnic cleansing like hitler and not defending itself ? dont avoid the subject im interested in hearing your opinion. How many babies should die before israel isn't defending itself anymore ?

2 americans kidnapped a russian recently , should russia send bombs into california ? would this be justified ? explain the difference ?
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