I was on the fence before but now FUCK ISRAEL

[pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Yep its official they have pretty much lost a supporter at this point

one thing I will not condone is the killing of innocent children I hope hezbolah catch a few more of their worthless soilders and cut theyr fuckin heads off on al jazera

they deserve it

[studiocritic]

i'm totally neutral in the matter.. but, um, how did the building fall almost 7 hours after the airstrike?

[Kimo]

but what if the children are holding rockets?






ive been on lebanons side from the start, lebanon didnt do shit, its hezballah thats fucking up isreal

[KRL]

Millions of years ago a single ape picked up a stick on the ground, hit another ape on the head with it, and realized a stick gave him the power to take another ape's food.

Mankind has been fighting and killing each other ever since.

[CDSmith]

Hey I have an idea! Let's start 20 more threads about this subject,

that'll teach those damn dirty jew bastards!!

[studiocritic]

Originally Posted by Kimo

but what if the children are holding rockets?






ive been on lebanons side from the start, lebanon didnt do shit, its hezballah thats fucking up isreal

and the fact that the voters allowed hizbollah to get a foothold in their government assembly? they hold 12 seats. elected. democratically.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by pussyserver

Yep its official they have pretty much lost a supporter at this point

one thing I will not condone is the killing of innocent children I hope hezbolah catch a few more of their worthless soilders and cut theyr fuckin heads off on al jazera

they deserve it

and the 2000+ rockets fired str8 at civilians in Israel.

Israel should just ignore them and hope they go away?

[spunkmaster]

What about the 150 rockets fired by hezbolah into Israel just today ?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

i'm totally neutral in the matter.. but, um, how did the building fall almost 7 hours after the airstrike?

a conspiracy.

[Love Sex]

Pussy Server

i hope your family gets there heads cut off on al jezeraa

its one thing not to support something but its tottaly another to wish death upon others.

[Agent 488]

lol - stay away from fox news buddy.

Originally Posted by Kimo

but what if the children are holding rockets?






ive been on lebanons side from the start, lebanon didnt do shit, its hezballah thats fucking up isreal

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

and the fact that the voters allowed hizbollah to get a foothold in their government assembly? they hold 12 seats. elected. democratically.

The correct number is 14, out of a total of 128. That means that a rather small percentage of people voted for them. The vast majority of voters therefore did not vote for them. How exactly are those responsible for the relatively few votes Hezbollah got?

The very essence of democracy is that people cannot control what parties others vote for. The voters didn't "allow" Hezbollah to get a foothold in parliament, a minority supported them in the elections, while a large majority did not.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

What about the 150 rockets fired by hezbolah into Israel just today ?

and EVERY one was aimed at civilians......

Now we have to feel sorry for the terrorists because their weapons arnt as good as Israels?

Piss off....

[KRL]

The problem is this is an urban war which is the hardest type to fight.

Hezbollah operates and launches from civilian neighborhoods not easy to spot and target military bases. Missles and weapons are stored in people's garages and launched from civilian neighborhoods on trucks.

So this type of situation will always create tragedies like what has been happening.

Its very fucked up to see anyone's kids die.

At the same time if a powerful group like Hezbollah is publicly stating their mission is to destroy Israel and wipe their whole country off the map, and is continuing to fire over 100 missles a day into Israel, Israel doesn't have many options as to how to respond.

I hate violence. But all sides in this war are used to it and have had violent conflicts for decades. So diplomacy doesn't work well, because both sides are notorious for not honoring their agreements.

Why anyone would want to live in this part of the world to begin with is beyond my comprehension. Even if I had not a single dollar I would find a way get my family the fuck out of that land. Everyone there is living on a timebomb just waiting to explode.

[Love Sex]

Originally Posted by KRL

Why anyone would want to live in this part of the world to begin with is beyond my comprehension. Even if I had not a single dollar I would find a way get my family the fuck out of that land. Everyone there is living on a timebomb just waiting to explode.

The reason people live there is because its there homes and they cant leave. Where are they going to go.

Everything they know is there. So rather then leave they fight for there land, there homes and to protect their families. Its like saying if war breaks out in america would you leave or stay and fight.

[Webby]

Hit back to the beginning - it was never about Hezbollah - they only came into the scenario since the early 80's.

It is about ghettos, "settlements" and non-compliance with UN Res 242 which clearly started that Israel remove "troops from occupied territories".

Instead, half the population of Gaza are registered refugees living in eight ghettos for 40 ish years with very basic infrastructure and little hope of earning or being sustainable - together with road blocks and "permits" to prohibit access.

Instead, Israel has constructed a series of "non-Palestinian" roads and surrounding these - a series of "settlements" - on occupied land - the same land specified in 242.

Of course the Lebanese people will vote for people who are willing to stand up and protect them. What would you do if your family was confined to a ghetto for decades and under oppression by another party?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

Hit back to the beginning - it was never about Hezbollah - they only came into the scenario since the early 80's.

It is about ghettos, "settlements" and non-compliance with UN Res 242 which clearly started that Israel remove "troops from occupied territories".

Instead, half the population of Gaza are registered refugees living in eight ghettos for 40 ish years with very basic infrastructure and little hope of earning or being sustainable - together with road blocks and "permits" to prohibit access.

Instead, Israel has constructed a series of "non-Palestinian" roads and surrounding these - a series of "settlements" - on occupied land - the same land specified in 242.

Of course the Lebanese people will vote for people who are willing to stand up and protect them. What would you do if your family was confined to a ghetto for decades and under oppression by another party?

Israel takes the position that it partially complied with 242 in that 242 allows for the following.

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

Emphasis being on the word secure.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

Israel takes the position that it partially complied with 242 in that 242 allows for the following.

Emphasis being on the word secure.

Unfortunately there is rarely a cherry-picking of what clauses of UN Res 242 - it's a matter of complying with it or not. So far, Israel has not complied.

Kinda similar to... eg "I like this clause from USC 2257 so I'll agree to it"

[yahoo-xxx-girls.com]

Hey Libertine, you have a good point ! but what would you do to stop this fucking killing... It just MAD over there !!!

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

and the fact that the voters allowed hizbollah to get a foothold in their government assembly? they hold 12 seats. elected. democratically.

Yes islamo-fascists got elected, but it was the same for Hitler nazi party members in the 30s

Israel does have not-too-good idiotic politicians like the rest of the world, but its senate was not taken over by terrorists.

Does anyone make a difference between a regular army and a group of butchers with no education and living by the Quran?

[Tuga]

Originally Posted by Love Sex

Pussy Server

i hope your family gets there heads cut off on al jezeraa

its one thing not to support something but its tottaly another to wish death upon others.

And you just did that on his familly, idiot.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Does anyone make a difference between a regular army and a group of butchers with no education and living by the Quran?

The education standard of those who fight was never really the point - neither was their beliefs or their ability to be butchers as a trade.

The difference between a "regular army" is in it's "niceness" and claimed legality. They are armed with sophisticated weaponary and ordered by - presumably a higher being - to go out and kill. When they go out and kill - they often do it on a mass scale - example the US killings in Iraq totalling around 34,000 or possibly more. But, they are never "butchers" - they do most of the butchery at a safe distance.

The "other side" you mention have no sophisticated weaponary, have been oppressed for decades, saw they families and those of their friends be abused, blow to hell and generally confined to ghettos. They may feel they have more than just cause - whether that is in revenge or attacking those who have inflicted oppression on their people for decades. When they go out and kill - they use small quantities of rockets and blow themselves up etc, but for some reason, this makes them "evil" and "cowards". Mmmm.

Bottom line? This is little difference - tho one has a larger capacity to kill than the other, but each have their reasons.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webby

Unfortunately there is rarely a cherry-picking of what clauses of UN Res 242 - it's a matter of complying with it or not. So far, Israel has not complied.

Kinda similar to... eg "I like this clause from USC 2257 so I'll agree to it"

The difference being that 2257 is law and UN Resolutions are not law...just as a Congressional Resolution is not law.

[Why]

Originally Posted by Libertine

The correct number is 14, out of a total of 128. That means that a rather small percentage of people voted for them. The vast majority of voters therefore did not vote for them. How exactly are those responsible for the relatively few votes Hezbollah got?

The very essence of democracy is that people cannot control what parties others vote for. The voters didn't "allow" Hezbollah to get a foothold in parliament, a minority supported them in the elections, while a large majority did not.

someone got corrected like a mutha fucka.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by KRL

Millions of years ago a single ape picked up a stick on the ground, hit another ape on the head with it, and realized a stick gave him the power to take another ape's food.

Mankind has been fighting and killing each other ever since.

then the gorilla realized that he could charge the ape money for protection from the other ape. and began the sticking of ones nose into other peoples problems for your own financial gain. war is money.

haliburton must be licking their chops to go in and clean up israel when its all over.

[DEA - banned for life]

i hope they got this lilttle bastard

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by budsbabes

lol - stay away from fox news buddy.

FOX? During cold war Staline used to have same the media... Fox is the most corrupted media. Watch BBC, CNN I mean real news channel, with objective point of view.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

war is money.

War have always been about resources... money is just a man made tool - resources are not

[alexg]

Originally Posted by Love Sex

Pussy Server

i hope your family gets there heads cut off on al jezeraa

its one thing not to support something but its tottaly another to wish death upon others.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by theking

The difference being that 2257 is law and UN Resolutions are not law...just as a Congressional Resolution is not law.

Maybe... it still is a matter of cherry-picking as to what clauses we like and ignore all others.

UN Resolutions express the wish of the international community - Israel was fully involved and had a voice as part of that community - what part do they not understand? (OK.. I believe we are fussing over the word "all" as in "removing troops from occupied territories" or "removing troops from all occupied territories"). There is a choice in resolutions - the wording is crafted and clear - something that cannot be said for serveral laws.

[HpicAnn]

Those childrens are trained to kill. Unfortunately they almost born with a gun in their hands!

[DOX]

Games...

Before if was between USSR & USA.
Nowdays between West & Iran/Syria.

The best place for the speculation is right here...

all bc of small piece of derert that hundreds of times less than territory of Saudia Arabia for example (and Saudis don't even use it). arabs conquered thousands of times larger territories (all northern africa include Egypt for example) and now they really need this 0.05% of desert land heh i don't believe this bullshit

EVERYDAY around 25 000 ppl die in the world (according to UN stats) as a result of undernourishment and noone really cares maybe bc the pictures for media is not emotional enough to raise the ratings like in that building. Let's put all those 25 000 ppl together and see the real EVERYDAY tragedy.

They don't care about their children sending them to blowup themselves in israeli schools & clubs, so why should Israel care about BOTH SIDES children? How efective is it for IDF to manage the war when one side does not care for any children hiding behind their own and other side should care for both Israeli & Arabs children?

in this Game i support USA & West since americans interested now in stable long time peace in this region and Iran looking for escalation. USA has enough troubles in Iraq to have one more in Lebanon.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Rolo

War have always been about resources... money is just a man made tool - resources are not

And yet somehow they are fighting over the two most worthless pieces of rock in the middle east. No oil in Israel or Lebanon. Their beef is about religion, which historically is the chief cause of war, not resources.

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by DOX

EVERYDAY around 25 000 ppl die in the world (according to UN stats) as a result of undernourishment and noone really cares maybe bc the pictures for media is not emotional enough to raise the ratings like in that building. Let's put all those 25 000 ppl together and see the real EVERYDAY tragedy.

Yeah, makes you wonder... here is another amazing number:

At the end of each day the Earth holds about 250,000 more people than the night before (236,000 in the developing countries, 14,000 in the rich nations).

[Rolo]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

And yet somehow they are fighting over the two most worthless pieces of rock in the middle east. No oil in Israel or Lebanon. Their beef is about religion, which historically is the chief cause of war, not resources.

Land, and people are resources

[pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Love Sex

Pussy Server

i hope your family gets there heads cut off on al jezeraa

its one thing not to support something but its tottaly another to wish death upon others.

and this is the basic Jewish respnse so it seems

you talk about killing soilders

they talk about killing families

this one just said he / she hopes my family get there heads cut off

statements like this that reflect actions seen by the world only exspose whats really going on here

and since you just wished death on my family hopefuly you will have the courage to tell me this face to face should we ever meet and not bomb my kids from 100 miles up in the sky

coward

[The Demon]

listen you ignorant, unintelligent lowlife porn pusher, shut the fuck up for a minute. Nobody cares about your arbitrary and incessant rambling. Why not look at the history of Israel before you look like a fucking moron. Since 1948, Israel has been attacked repeatedly by Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Almost 60 years later they decide to fight back, and they're the monsters? You're a fucking moron and I highly doubt Israel needs incompetent porno pushers for supporters.. Stick to what you're good at, this is above you.

[pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by The Demon

listen you ignorant, unintelligent lowlife porn pusher, shut the fuck up for a minute. Nobody cares about your arbitrary and incessant rambling. Why not look at the history of Israel before you look like a fucking moron. Since 1948, Israel has been attacked repeatedly by Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Almost 60 years later they decide to fight back, and they're the monsters? You're a fucking moron and I highly doubt Israel needs incompetent porno pushers for supporters.. Stick to what you're good at, this is above you.

say hello to the other 16 people on my ignore list

have fun fake nic troll

just another coward lobbing insults fromm 100 miles away

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by The Demon

listen you ignorant, unintelligent lowlife porn pusher,

... and you are ????

[elron]

Originally Posted by pussyserver

and this is the basic Jewish respnse so it seems

you talk about killing soilders

they talk about killing families

this one just said he / she hopes my family get there heads cut off

statements like this that reflect actions seen by the world only exspose whats really going on here

and since you just wished death on my family hopefuly you will have the courage to tell me this face to face should we ever meet and not bomb my kids from 100 miles up in the sky

coward

Yeah and you wish more israeli families would have one of their sons kidnaped by these cavemen . you're not better than him so fuck off .

[E$_manager]

you know that there are victims - innocent people and children when there is a war. on the both sides. The matter is now to present it. Some PR.
For example when there was war in Gorgia and Abhasia we didn'r know the half of the reality. the same about Chechnya and Yugoslaviya.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by pussyserver

Yep its official they have pretty much lost a supporter at this point

one thing I will not condone is the killing of innocent children I hope hezbolah catch a few more of their worthless soilders and cut theyr fuckin heads off on al jazera

they deserve it

the arabs have been killing unharmed women and children for some time . . bombing schoolbuses, sniping on suv's. blowing up malls and hospitals . . now they are hidding in groups of women and children firing missels at israel . . why do you blame israel for defending itself? and you don't know if the israelies killed then anyway . . you know perfectly well that the arabs would kill those kids in a heart beat to make the jews look bad . . they are using kids, women and 'tards for suicide bomber as it is . .

[DOX]

Originally Posted by The Demon

listen you ignorant, unintelligent lowlife porn pusher, shut the fuck up for a minute. Nobody cares about your arbitrary and incessant rambling. Why not look at the history of Israel before you look like a fucking moron. Since 1948, Israel has been attacked repeatedly by Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Almost 60 years later they decide to fight back, and they're the monsters? You're a fucking moron and I highly doubt Israel needs incompetent porno pushers for supporters.. Stick to what you're good at, this is above you.

[pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Wanton

the arabs have been killing unharmed women and children for some time . . bombing schoolbuses, sniping on suv's. blowing up malls and hospitals . . now they are hidding in groups of women and children firing missels at israel . . why do you blame israel for defending itself? and you don't know if the israelies killed then anyway . . you know perfectly well that the arabs would kill those kids in a heart beat to make the jews look bad . . they are using kids, women and 'tards for suicide bomber as it is . .

I dont know that they will use kids or women or any of those things

I have a deep distrust for western news media as I know for certain they sensationalize any thing that will support their position on a subject

my distrust for politicians are even greater for the same reason SEE 2257)

its all bullshit

I was on Israels side up until yesterday when they murdered more small children...something about mass graves full of babies makes my stomach turn

and the more i read post jewish posters and supporters the more its all starting to add up for me the isralies have no regard for human life outside of their fellow jews instaed of admiting what they did was wrong they create every angle imaginable to justfy the mass murder of babies....for me this says a lot about the people

im done with this thread I walk away an enlightened man

see sig

[leedsfan]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

i'm totally neutral in the matter.. but, um, how did the building fall almost 7 hours after the airstrike?

you must be talking about the twin towers.

[websiex]

You reap what you sow.

You kill children, you create nuts. Well, they aren't nuts, just really pissed off people.