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Old 08-07-2006, 11:23 PM   #1
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The scariest movie you will see this year... "Freedom to Fascism"

After seeing this movie, i'm so torn up inside about this federal government that I once served as a US Marine.

I could go on and on, but i'm shaking so bad, I honestly don't know what to say.

Take a look at the website and please.. if you see any movie this year, please go see this one. Oh, and just so you know, the federal government is already trying to block the release of this film into other cities.

here's their website for the film. http://www.freedomtofascism.com/
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:29 PM   #2
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I'm glad to see this movie come out with such a positive response. I've been saying this for years, we are slaves to banks and credit card companies. Debt slavery.

Private tyranny is no better than state tyranny.
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:32 PM   #3
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I saw The Corporation yesterday and it changed my life... fuck corporate america.
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:45 PM   #4
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this movie also has alot about it and the conspiracy that is taxes. i knew that would have an effect on lots of people in this industry in particular!

i highly recommend this film to everyone that gets a chance to see it.

if any movie can change your life and the way you think, this one can.
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:55 AM   #5
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We learned about this in Political Science in college. There is no law that says Americans in the working class pay taxes to the government. The law to enforce that was VOTED DOWN about 90+ years ago. It was never approved. But the government went ahead and did it anyway without the majority vote.

Let me ask you a question:
If you stopped paying taxes on the grounds there was no law saying you had to, would the judge throw you in prison for tax evasion or hear you out so 300 million others could do the same thing?

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Old 08-08-2006, 01:49 AM   #7
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I wish this movie was available where I live. I've seen the trailers so far. Sounds like a good one.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:54 AM   #8
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Awesome!! Good to see a movie like this come out. Hopefully it will wake some people up!

Check out the trailer...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88001333580937

gets some corn... It's 15 minuts long.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:58 AM   #9
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I've been waiting for it to come out... I'm in Asia though so it's gonna be a while.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:58 AM   #10
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Yes, this is a movie that I want to see...
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I don't know what kinda movie it is and I haven't even visited the homepage, but it sounds a lot like propaganda
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Thanks for posting this. I went over the site and heard them talking about the National ID cards in the USA.,So I had to check it out also. That to me is even more freaky and scary. Seems to be for the Britts also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British..._identity_card

Biometric authentication seems like something out of a SciFi movie.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:28 AM   #13
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Looks good, I will definitely be seeing this one.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:54 AM   #14
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Fuck you all, if you dont like it then get your freedom back by moving to Nigeria. No one is going to miss scumbags and anarchists.

I know Third World countries citizens must be laughing at stupid big fat US citizens complaining all the time about their lack of freedom, its bullshit.

Roswell aliens took over the government , oh yeah sounds like the good old conspiracy. Stupid anarchists. Anti-Americanism is like the good old antisemitism. It even created a new category of self-hating Americans.

Dont you realize this movie is for dumb, naive, utopist teenagers.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:57 AM   #15
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I saw The Corporation yesterday and it changed my life... fuck corporate america.
If you liked that you should see the Walmart movie.

http://www.walmartmovie.com/
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We learned about this in Political Science in college. There is no law that says Americans in the working class pay taxes to the government. The law to enforce that was VOTED DOWN about 90+ years ago. It was never approved. But the government went ahead and did it anyway without the majority vote.

Let me ask you a question:
If you stopped paying taxes on the grounds there was no law saying you had to, would the judge throw you in prison for tax evasion or hear you out so 300 million others could do the same thing?

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I know a few guys that are in tax revolt . . it's a real pain in the ass, no DL, can't get credit, etc, etc
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Didnt know you were a Marine BLish... (Or I wasnt paying attention) When you stopping through Orlando again?
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is the movie on p2p yet lol,
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:35 AM   #19
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it's a bit much . . . the 'camps' is a tuff one to swallow
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Fuck you all, if you dont like it then get your freedom back by moving to Nigeria. No one is going to miss scumbags and anarchists.

I know Third World countries citizens must be laughing at stupid big fat US citizens complaining all the time about their lack of freedom, its bullshit.

Roswell aliens took over the government , oh yeah sounds like the good old conspiracy. Stupid anarchists. Anti-Americanism is like the good old antisemitism. It even created a new category of self-hating Americans.

Dont you realize this movie is for dumb, naive, utopist teenagers.
Here is one for you . Watch it over again.

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I saw the Exorsist. Scared the shit out of me. Had as much to do with reality as this movie.
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I saw the Exorsist. Scared the shit out of me. Had as much to do with reality as this movie.

You saw Freedom to Facism ...

I am ... speechless

Note: sarcasm .... and for 12clicks comprehension:
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You saw Freedom to Facism ...

I am ... speechless

Note: sarcasm .... and for 12clicks comprehension:
only children unhappy with their station in life and understanding it isn't going to get any better go to these types of silly movies.

They need something to blame for their failure other than themselves.
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Fuck you all, if you dont like it then get your freedom back by moving to Nigeria. No one is going to miss scumbags and anarchists.

I know Third World countries citizens must be laughing at stupid big fat US citizens complaining all the time about their lack of freedom, its bullshit.

Roswell aliens took over the government , oh yeah sounds like the good old conspiracy. Stupid anarchists. Anti-Americanism is like the good old antisemitism. It even created a new category of self-hating Americans.

Dont you realize this movie is for dumb, naive, utopist teenagers.


Shut the fuck up you ignorant bitch.
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Fuck you all, if you dont like it then get your freedom back by moving to Nigeria. No one is going to miss scumbags and anarchists.

I know Third World countries citizens must be laughing at stupid big fat US citizens complaining all the time about their lack of freedom, its bullshit.

Roswell aliens took over the government , oh yeah sounds like the good old conspiracy. Stupid anarchists. Anti-Americanism is like the good old antisemitism. It even created a new category of self-hating Americans.

Dont you realize this movie is for dumb, naive, utopist teenagers.
Just keep eating the shit they feed you.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:50 AM   #28
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Rene Russo did an awesome job on this one....
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One thing I did notice here http://www.freedomtofascism.com/ is at the bottom of the page he's asking for donations and how to you send the money? Visa or Master Card LOL.
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So people are upset that the US government taxes or that all governments tax?

Debt slavery? The US government owes ME money. I lend it to them by purchasing bonds. My banks owes ME money. I lent it to them in savings accounts. I guess they are slaves to MY money machine.
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Yes. But if he stuck to dumbing down monetary policy for the entire movie then the average idiot would lose interest pretty fast.
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Interesting movie......
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One of the guy's primary objectives is to "stop globalization". Good luck on that one
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Whoah... scary indeed. Especially the RFID technology.

Can't wait to see the film!
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So if basically there's no legal reason to pay income tax. Why is everyone still doing it? Why isn't anyone fighting this? It doesn't make sense.
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thank you for the suggestion. But if it scary i doubt that i want to see it, thoughi am so much interested.
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so when will we see it?
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If you guys want too see another movie about scams like theses and conspiracy theories, watch the electric car movie.
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only children unhappy with their station in life and understanding it isn't going to get any better go to these types of silly movies.

They need something to blame for their failure other than themselves.

How can you even pretend that your argument makes sense?

If regular people didn't gather to discuss and attempt to better their situation, we'd still be living under feudalism. If we're lucky. What part of history do you not understand? Oh that's right, ALL OF IT. You're like a little child who thinks that our rulers give us what freedoms we do have because they're nice. Guess what, they don't, they give us those freedoms because they have to, because regular people like us in past generations fought and won those rights.

Thinking that our present form of government and our laws are perfection, the end of history, is incredibly childish. Of course, since you dropped out of high school in what, the 10th grade, no one expects you to understand history, government, activism, or anything like that. I suppose if I had, like you, dropped out of high school, I'd be fucking moron too.

You have to remember 12clicks, some folks posses things you don't have, like educations, the ability to comprehend things more complex than the CNN ticker, and compassion for others.
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Is it for international release? We are not part of America but I would definitely love to see it.
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man, the arguments that take place in your head must be something. sadly, they have no relevance to what we're talking about here.
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How can you even pretend that your argument makes sense?

If regular people didn't gather to discuss and attempt to better their situation, we'd still be living under feudalism. If we're lucky. What part of history do you not understand? Oh that's right, ALL OF IT.
in your mind you might have thought I was talking about "gathering to discuss and attempt to better their situation" but if you look closely at my post, you'll see I was merely talking about watching a movie.

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You're like a little child who thinks that our rulers give us what freedoms we do have because they're nice. Guess what, they don't, they give us those freedoms because they have to, because regular people like us in past generations fought and won those rights.
again, simpleton, you seem to be arguing with someone who's in your head, not me. please quote me where I mentioned rulers or freedoms in this thread.

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Thinking that our present form of government and our laws are perfection, the end of history, is incredibly childish.
ok, since you can't quote me on that one, at least quote what was going on in your head and give it the name you call it when your arguing with it yourself.

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Of course, since you dropped out of high school in what, the 10th grade, no one expects you to understand history, government, activism, or anything like that. I suppose if I had, like you, dropped out of high school, I'd be fucking moron too.
that would certainly explain your posts. (well, that and your paranoid schizophrenia)

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You have to remember 12clicks, some folks posses things you don't have, like educations, the ability to comprehend things more complex than the CNN ticker, and compassion for others.
and some folks even have voices in our heads which seem to confuse us with what is real and what is imagined.
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man, the arguments that take place in your head must be something. sadly, they have no relevance to what we're talking about here.

in your mind you might have thought I was talking about "gathering to discuss and attempt to better their situation" but if you look closely at my post, you'll see I was merely talking about watching a movie.

In case you didn't realize this, movies are one of the main ways information is distributed in our society. It's called technology. 200 years ago this information would have been distributed by crudely made pamphlets, perhaps that would seem less futile to you. The point is, it's good that people go see movies like this, so they can discuss the issue and hopefully, be part of a movement that does something about it.

Yet, since you're a dropout, you don't understand this. And stupid people tend to laugh at and ridicule that which they can not understand. So, keep mocking, your laughing faces are really making you look like you know what you're talking about, as usual.
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Why does 12clicks always seem to talk about voices in people's heads? I think he should seriously see a psychiatrist.

12clicks, you're not supposed to hear voices in your head. No one does. There is medication out there that can help you with that.
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again, simpleton, you seem to be arguing with someone who's in your head, not me. please quote me where I mentioned rulers or freedoms in this thread.

Funny, 12clicks can't even grasp the connection between spreading information like that found in this film, and social and political change. He doesn't even understand the connection.

It must be terrible to be an adult with an understanding of the world that rivals that of a 9th grade kid, at best. I can see why uneducated people like him flock to outlets such as Fox news and CNN, that offer an extremely simplified view of everything. As much as I think he's a narcissistic douchebag, I honestly feel bad for him.

Not to mention, it must suck having to laugh at your own jokes 20 times a day because you know no one else is going to.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:23 PM   #48
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We learned about this in Political Science in college. There is no law that says Americans in the working class pay taxes to the government. The law to enforce that was VOTED DOWN about 90+ years ago. It was never approved. But the government went ahead and did it anyway without the majority vote.

Let me ask you a question:
If you stopped paying taxes on the grounds there was no law saying you had to, would the judge throw you in prison for tax evasion or hear you out so 300 million others could do the same thing?

Say hi to Bubba for me.

I take it you guys never studied the 16 amendment in your poli sci class....,
if thats the case I'd ask the school for a refund.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:24 PM   #49
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did you guys see the post where I said that government was actually trying to block the release of this film? that in itself amazes me.... because the government truly feels there is a threat involved.

I think i'm going to see this again in the theater and possibly even take notes!
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:28 PM   #50
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did you guys see the post where I said that government was actually trying to block the release of this film? that in itself amazes me.... because the government truly feels there is a threat involved.

I think i'm going to see this again in the theater and possibly even take notes!


Do you have a reference on that?
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