My FUCKING RANT on PROFESSIONALISM, PAYOUTS, JIMTHEFUCKINGFIEND, and BIGGY *PICS* - GoFuckYourself.com

evulvmedia · 08-09-2006, 08:41 AM

In any business, you need to be professional in your interactions. Why is it so important?

Because you are fucking there to make money. The people you associate with are there to make money. Money comes from getting shit done. Professionalism is the base code of conduct that everyone agrees to so that they GET THEIR FUCKING WORK DONE AND GET PAID. And then, once the work is FUCKING DONE, that's the time for fucking around and all that shit.

So it was nice to see, entering this business one year ago as an affiliate, that many sponsor programs are run in a completely professional way. AFF comes to mind- responsive support, payouts always on time. They might need a little boost in innovation and some new product, but they've never been lacking in professionalism.

Take the fucking payouts, for instance: Part of being professional is to stick to your agreements. If you put on your website in big clear letters that you send payouts on Wedensdays, for instance, then send the fucking payouts on Wednesday. Not Thursday. Why?- from your point of view there might be a good reason for it (how many times have I heard "we had a problem with our wire"?) and you might think it is inconsequential to your affiliates. Not so! When you don't stick to THE PLAN THAT YOU YOURSELF PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE it fucks up your affiliates' business. Your affiliates might actually want to use the money you are sending, and are expecting you to send it when you say you will. And if you don't stick to the plan, some of your affiliates will notice and will have to take TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS to contact you and say "what the fuck is up with the payout?" The cost is TIME and MONEY, which is especially fucking wierd because you as a program owner set the terms of the arrangement in the first place!

So keep to the fucking arrangement! Especially if you yourself choose to write the terms of the arrangement on your fucking affiliate website! If you can't keep up your end 100% with no slacking, then don't make the fucking promise in the first place!

And that brings me to jimthefuckingfiend and Epic Cash. I deplore the way that they market the program on this board. And I can't stand his offensive persona. BUT: Running a program in a professional way is the #1 thing that defines a program from the affiliate point-of-view. So if they do that will (I do not promote them so I don't know if they do), then I can even get past my own distaste for their techniques and give them ALL DUE RESPECT. Yes, I will bow down and respect jimthefuckingfiend if the program that he works for is ON THE FUCKING BALL.

My last point: If the new enforcement of the 2257 regs and the new secondary producer stuff do indeed drive smaller players out of this business, that presents some nice opportunities for smart programs. One of the best things that a program owner can do right now is to take a look at what he's put out there- what he's promised to affiliates. Then ask: "Am I actually doing- religiously, without exception- what I say I am going to do?"

Therein lies the advantage for a program owner- because one he has understood the implications of this, he can make the claim "WE AS A PROGRAM SUPPORT OUR AFFILIATES 100% AND VOW TO LIVE UP TO OUR PROMISES WITHOUT EXCEPTION"!

...and that is something that anyone who actually wants to accomplish something in this business will respect!

--

Now to the PICS: The very established and well-respected Biggy has a new site 18 Years Old and a new program Fuck You Cash. This stuff is great for teen traffic- real 18-year-old petite thin hardcore American cuties- and that's exactly what turns on surfers the most in the teen niche:

pradaboy · 08-09-2006, 08:45 AM

You do realize 90% won't read that story and just reply "I'd hit it"

NoCarrier · 08-09-2006, 08:46 AM

I'd hit it.

evulvmedia · 08-09-2006, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

You do realize 90% won't read that story and just reply "I'd hit it"

such is the nature of this business... and I'm aiming the story at the other 10% anyway

StuartD · 08-09-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

You do realize 90% won't read that story and just reply "I'd hit it"

I read it.

I'd hit it.

wjxxx · 08-09-2006, 08:49 AM

I`d hit twice

Atticus · 08-09-2006, 08:54 AM

Interesting post on professionalism. You then drop the F Bomb in every other sentence describing how you demand professionalism.

Ironic.

evulvmedia · 08-09-2006, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus

Interesting post on professionalism. You then drop the F Bomb in every other sentence describing how you demand professionalism.

Ironic.

Yeah, I tried to do it in EVERY fucking sentance but I wasn't fucking smart enough to fit it in.

ServerGenius · 08-09-2006, 08:59 AM

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Take the fucking payouts, for instance: Part of being professional is to stick to your agreements. If you put on your website in big clear letters that you send payouts on Wedensdays, for instance, then send the fucking payouts on Wednesday. Not Thursday. Why?- from your point of view there might be a good reason for it (how many times have I heard "we had a problem with our wire"?) and you might think it is inconsequential to your affiliates. Not so! When you don't stick to THE PLAN THAT YOU YOURSELF PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE it fucks up your affiliates' business. Your affiliates might actually want to use the money you are sending, and are expecting you to send it when you say you will. And if you don't stick to the plan, some of your affiliates will notice and will have to take TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS to contact you and say "what the fuck is up with the payout?" The cost is TIME and MONEY, which is especially fucking wierd because you as a program owner set the terms of the arrangement in the first place!

Things DO go wrong sometimes and wednesday can be a holiday on which
banks are closed either in the sponsor's country or your country. Seriously
if you run your business from paycheck to paycheck you should not use
the word profesionalism to lightly. On the other hand it would be smarter
if programs publish payment will be sent at the end of each week/month
so that it gives them a day or 2 slack.

xLaborJames · 08-09-2006, 09:12 AM

good post, and yes id hit it

evulvmedia · 08-09-2006, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

Things DO go wrong sometimes and wednesday can be a holiday on which
banks are closed either in the sponsor's country or your country. Seriously
if you run your business from paycheck to paycheck you should not use
the word profesionalism to lightly. On the other hand it would be smarter
if programs publish payment will be sent at the end of each week/month
so that it gives them a day or 2 slack.

I can respect that things DO go wrong sometimes.

But then I see sponsors who are completely on top of things- they keep to their payout schedule like clockwork. And they often will be the same ones who provide new promo content when they say they will, and who also have the most satisfied end-users. With these guys, when something goes wrong it is the exception, not the rule.

I also think many people start out in this business going paycheck-to-paycheck- that's life and I don't think there's anything unprofessional about that.

gangbangjoe · 08-09-2006, 09:14 AM

im not gonna read that all if it comes from a "januar 06 noob" :D

StuartD · 08-09-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

im not gonna read that all if it comes from a "januar 06 noob" :D

"jun" is June actually.

Vittoria · 08-09-2006, 09:20 AM

I'd hit it.

BoyAlley · 08-09-2006, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

You do realize 90% won't read that story and just reply "I'd hit it"

Tempest · 08-09-2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

... and just reply "I'd hit it"

Wrong.... "cliff notes please"....."..too long..."

butterflybucks · 08-09-2006, 09:27 AM

I can't wait to hear what he has to say being in the business another year or two!

pornguy · 08-09-2006, 09:28 AM

I hit it, then read it.

Hooligan · 08-09-2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

Things DO go wrong sometimes and wednesday can be a holiday on which banks are closed either in the sponsor's country or your country.

Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me.

OG LennyT · 08-09-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus

Interesting post on professionalism. You then drop the F Bomb in every other sentence describing how you demand professionalism.

Ironic.

you can say fuck and still be professional.

In this case, the f word was used to incite strong emotion in his important message.

ServerGenius · 08-09-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooligan

Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me.

I see comprehensive reading is not 1 of your talents....actually what is?

Jace · 08-09-2006, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus

Interesting post on professionalism. You then drop the F Bomb in every other sentence describing how you demand professionalism.

Ironic.

I have NEVER met professionals in ANY industry that didn't swear...they are just words man....

Shit, Fuck, Satan, Death, Sex, Drugs, Rape
These seven words you're trying to take
Shit, Fuck, Satan, Death, Sex, Drugs, Rape
Right or wrong it's our choice to make
America the beautiful land of the free
Don't change the words to land of hypocrisy

Jace · 08-09-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

I see comprehensive reading is not 1 of your talents....actually what is?

what he said was actually a line from a movie I believe...I think he was making a funny

Magix · 08-09-2006, 10:40 AM

i just like the Pics

Jace · 08-09-2006, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

I see comprehensive reading is not 1 of your talents....actually what is?

ah, yeah...Goodfellas

Henry Hill: [narrating] Now the guy's got Paulie as a partner. Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops, deliveries, Tommy, he can call Paulie. But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me."

ServerGenius · 08-09-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

ah, yeah...Goodfellas

Henry Hill: [narrating] Now the guy's got Paulie as a partner. Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops, deliveries, Tommy, he can call Paulie. But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me."

Good flick that is

Juilan · 08-09-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by evulvmedia

(snip)

Take the fucking payouts, for instance: Part of being professional is to stick to your agreements. If you put on your website in big clear letters that you send payouts on Wedensdays, for instance, then send the fucking payouts on Wednesday. Not Thursday. Why?- from your point of view there might be a good reason for it (how many times have I heard "we had a problem with our wire"?) and you might think it is inconsequential to your affiliates. Not so! When you don't stick to THE PLAN THAT YOU YOURSELF PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE it fucks up your affiliates' business. Your affiliates might actually want to use the money you are sending, and are expecting you to send it when you say you will. And if you don't stick to the plan, some of your affiliates will notice and will have to take TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS to contact you and say "what the fuck is up with the payout?" The cost is TIME and MONEY

Agree 100% with this.

HizAzPhun · 08-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

I can respect that things DO go wrong sometimes.

But then I see sponsors who are completely on top of things- they keep to their payout schedule like clockwork. And they often will be the same ones who provide new promo content when they say they will, and who also have the most satisfied end-users. With these guys, when something goes wrong it is the exception, not the rule.

I also think many people start out in this business going paycheck-to-paycheck- that's life and I don't think there's anything unprofessional about that.

Some programs even send out an email to all affiliates wishing them happy holidays (or informing them of downtime, etc) and also informing them of the delay in payment.

Gunni · 08-09-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Wrong.... "cliff notes please"....."..too long..."

Here you go

will76 · 08-09-2006, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

In any business, you need to be professional in your interactions. Why is it so important?

Because you are fucking there to make money. The people you associate with are there to make money. Money comes from getting shit done. Professionalism is the base code of conduct that everyone agrees to so that they GET THEIR FUCKING WORK DONE AND GET PAID. And then, once the work is FUCKING DONE, that's the time for fucking around and all that shit.

So it was nice to see, entering this business one year ago as an affiliate, that many sponsor programs are run in a completely professional way. AFF comes to mind- responsive support, payouts always on time. They might need a little boost in innovation and some new product, but they've never been lacking in professionalism.

Take the fucking payouts, for instance: Part of being professional is to stick to your agreements. If you put on your website in big clear letters that you send payouts on Wedensdays, for instance, then send the fucking payouts on Wednesday. Not Thursday. Why?- from your point of view there might be a good reason for it (how many times have I heard "we had a problem with our wire"?) and you might think it is inconsequential to your affiliates. Not so! When you don't stick to THE PLAN THAT YOU YOURSELF PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE it fucks up your affiliates' business. Your affiliates might actually want to use the money you are sending, and are expecting you to send it when you say you will. And if you don't stick to the plan, some of your affiliates will notice and will have to take TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS to contact you and say "what the fuck is up with the payout?" The cost is TIME and MONEY, which is especially fucking wierd because you as a program owner set the terms of the arrangement in the first place!

So keep to the fucking arrangement! Especially if you yourself choose to write the terms of the arrangement on your fucking affiliate website! If you can't keep up your end 100% with no slacking, then don't make the fucking promise in the first place!

And that brings me to jimthefuckingfiend and Epic Cash. I deplore the way that they market the program on this board. And I can't stand his offensive persona. BUT: Running a program in a professional way is the #1 thing that defines a program from the affiliate point-of-view. So if they do that will (I do not promote them so I don't know if they do), then I can even get past my own distaste for their techniques and give them ALL DUE RESPECT. Yes, I will bow down and respect jimthefuckingfiend if the program that he works for is ON THE FUCKING BALL.

I agreed with you up till the part that if a company does what it says it will, then even if they act immature and like assholes, they are still "professionals". Professionalism, is more then just doing what you say and honoring your terms. It is also the way you interract with people.

there is nothing professional about pimpdog and jimmie. white trash is still white trash no matter how much money you make.

BaldBishop · 08-09-2006, 01:48 PM

I'd hit it.

Egomancer · 08-09-2006, 03:16 PM

Good post!

Egomancer

spacedog · 08-09-2006, 03:34 PM

I can't believe this guy used AFF as an example of professional?

Friggen place is so half ass fucked up half the time,...

natas · 08-09-2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

I'd hit it.

classic

aico · 08-09-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

im not gonna read that all if it comes from a "januar 06 noob" :D

Well the read away. Cuz it's June.

jimthefiend · 08-09-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

And that brings me to jimthefuckingfiend and Epic Cash. I deplore the way that they market the program on this board. And I can't stand his offensive persona. BUT: Running a program in a professional way is the #1 thing that defines a program from the affiliate point-of-view. So if they do that will (I do not promote them so I don't know if they do), then I can even get past my own distaste for their techniques and give them ALL DUE RESPECT. Yes, I will bow down and respect jimthefuckingfiend if the program that he works for is ON THE FUCKING BALL.

/board persona switch OFF.

I can assure you that Epic Cash and it's employees take this business and the needs of our affiliates seriously. We pay WELL and on time. Our sites sell.

We ARE on the ball and if you ever have ANY concerns or needs feel free to contact one of us.

I am PERSONALLY available to Epic affiliates 24/7.

If you ever have problems, questions or just wanna chat (lol):

icq: 121189
aim: epicjimthefiend
skype: jimthefiend
[email protected]
phone: 765-359-0536

If I'm awake, you can talk to me.

Hope this helped.

/reload board persona.

GonZo · 08-09-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gangbangjoe

im not gonna read that all if it comes from a "januar 06 noob" :D

Cuz post count matters?

Rui · 08-10-2006, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia

So it was nice to see, entering this business one year ago as an affiliate, that many sponsor programs are run in a completely professional way. AFF comes to mind- responsive support, payouts always on time. They might need a little boost in innovation and some new product, but they've never been lacking in professionalism.

You lost me there...

Are you talking about the same company that endorses the promotion tru illegal sites that hurt several industries (not only adult)..

Yeah really professional to support fusker, torrent, nfo's, content stealing, warez sites...

Jace · 08-10-2006, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

Cuz post count matters?

and you are who?

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08-09-2006, 08:41 AM	#1
evulvmedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 441	My FUCKING RANT on PROFESSIONALISM, PAYOUTS, JIMTHEFUCKINGFIEND, and BIGGY PICS In any business, you need to be professional in your interactions. Why is it so important? Because you are fucking there to make money. The people you associate with are there to make money. Money comes from getting shit done. Professionalism is the base code of conduct that everyone agrees to so that they GET THEIR FUCKING WORK DONE AND GET PAID. And then, once the work is FUCKING DONE, that's the time for fucking around and all that shit. So it was nice to see, entering this business one year ago as an affiliate, that many sponsor programs are run in a completely professional way. AFF comes to mind- responsive support, payouts always on time. They might need a little boost in innovation and some new product, but they've never been lacking in professionalism. Take the fucking payouts, for instance: Part of being professional is to stick to your agreements. If you put on your website in big clear letters that you send payouts on Wedensdays, for instance, then send the fucking payouts on Wednesday. Not Thursday. Why?- from your point of view there might be a good reason for it (how many times have I heard "we had a problem with our wire"?) and you might think it is inconsequential to your affiliates. Not so! When you don't stick to THE PLAN THAT YOU YOURSELF PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE it fucks up your affiliates' business. Your affiliates might actually want to use the money you are sending, and are expecting you to send it when you say you will. And if you don't stick to the plan, some of your affiliates will notice and will have to take TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS to contact you and say "what the fuck is up with the payout?" The cost is TIME and MONEY, which is especially fucking wierd because you as a program owner set the terms of the arrangement in the first place! So keep to the fucking arrangement! Especially if you yourself choose to write the terms of the arrangement on your fucking affiliate website! If you can't keep up your end 100% with no slacking, then don't make the fucking promise in the first place! And that brings me to jimthefuckingfiend and Epic Cash. I deplore the way that they market the program on this board. And I can't stand his offensive persona. BUT: Running a program in a professional way is the #1 thing that defines a program from the affiliate point-of-view. So if they do that will (I do not promote them so I don't know if they do), then I can even get past my own distaste for their techniques and give them ALL DUE RESPECT. Yes, I will bow down and respect jimthefuckingfiend if the program that he works for is ON THE FUCKING BALL. My last point: If the new enforcement of the 2257 regs and the new secondary producer stuff do indeed drive smaller players out of this business, that presents some nice opportunities for smart programs. One of the best things that a program owner can do right now is to take a look at what he's put out there- what he's promised to affiliates. Then ask: "Am I actually doing- religiously, without exception- what I say I am going to do?" Therein lies the advantage for a program owner- because one he has understood the implications of this, he can make the claim "WE AS A PROGRAM SUPPORT OUR AFFILIATES 100% AND VOW TO LIVE UP TO OUR PROMISES WITHOUT EXCEPTION"! ...and that is something that anyone who actually wants to accomplish something in this business will respect! -- Now to the PICS: The very established and well-respected Biggy has a new site 18 Years Old and a new program Fuck You Cash. This stuff is great for teen traffic- real 18-year-old petite thin hardcore American cuties- and that's exactly what turns on surfers the most in the teen niche:

08-09-2006, 08:49 AM	#6
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08-09-2006, 08:54 AM	#7
Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	Interesting post on professionalism. You then drop the F Bomb in every other sentence describing how you demand professionalism. Ironic.

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08-09-2006, 03:16 PM	#32
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08-09-2006, 03:34 PM	#33
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