?Could it be that pornography prevents rape??

[xxxjay]

I like to call it "suprise sex" -- rape seems like a harsh term:


On June 19, David Fahrenthold of the Washington Post (?Statistics Show Drop in U.S. Rape Cases?) reported that according to ?federal crime data? [specifically, National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS) data] the number of rapes per capita ?plunged more than 85% since the 1970s.? He continued, ?Many...say that these numbers could be a statistical mirage...others say they have been convinced that...a devastating crime has been receding from American life.? In his June 29 column (?Tide turns against rape?but why??) the Chicago Tribune?s Steve Chapman asserted that the NCVS data ?thoroughly demolished? one theory about the causes of rape ? namely, ?that pornography leads inexorably to sexual abuse of women and children.? He continued ?But while hard-core raunch has proliferated, sexual assaults have not. Could it be that pornography prevents rape??

MIM president Robert Peters wrote an article responding to Chapman?s column. Mark Kernes, Senior Legal Editor at Adult Video News, then responded to Mr. Peters with his own article, ?Morality in Media Chief Needs a Science Lesson.? Mr. Peters has now expanded on his article (?Could it be that pornography prevents rape??), which is published at the www.ObscenityCrimes.org Porn Problem & Solutions page.

Mr. Peters' expanded article states, in part:

?If the predominant effect of pornography were cathartic, sexual abuse of children should in large measure ?be history,? because never before has so much child porn, ?pseudo child porn,? and teen porn been so readily available. Instead, we are spending hundreds of millions of dollars yearly to combat sexual abuse of children. And every day, all across America, children and adults are being arrested for molesting a child or attempting to molest a ?child? who turns out to be a law enforcement agent.
?According to data from the FBI?s Uniform Crime Reports (UCR)... the number of ?forcible rapes? actually increased?from 1972 to 2004...[I]t defies the imagination how one measure (NCVS) points to an 85% decline in ?forcible rape,? while another measure (UCR) points to an increase of over 40%.

?Common sense should inform us that when persons feed their minds on pornography that exploits and degrades women or depicts violence against them, their sexual ?appetites? can become warped...Research also indicates there is a causal relationship between pornography and sexual violence... There is also a mountain of anecdotal evidence showing that pornography is linked to violent sexual crimes.

?Even were we to assume that there is less ?forcible rape? today...and that the increase in promiscuity and proliferation of pornography contributed to the decline ? after all who needs rape when you can have sex whenever you want and who needs women when porn is so accessible and affordable...does anyone in their right mind think promiscuity and pornography are good things and should be encouraged??

Read the full article at www.ObscenityCrimes.org


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[Wiggles]

doubt many will agree with this, they will argue that pornography leads to rape because they want a bigger thrill.

[frank7799]

This is old news. There are scientific studies for Denmark, Germany, several other European countries and the US. They analize the years 1964 to 1984. While the number of other crimes grew about 300%, the reported numbers of rape went down, though sexually explicit material was legalized.

Berl Kutchinsky, Pornography and Rape: Theory and Practice? in : International Journal of Law and Psychiatry, Bd.14, 1991, pages 47-66

So porn is more or less a matter of moral, not a reason for sexual crimes.

[scottybuzz]

.yes sir.

[frank7799]

In case somebody is interested in such studies:

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_ar...y_rape_jp.html

"Our findings regarding sex crimes, murder and assault are in keeping with what is also known about general crime rates in Japan regarding burglary, theft and such. Japan has the lowest number of reported rape cases and the highest percentage of arrests and convictions in reported cases of any developed nation. Indeed, Japan is known as one of the safest developed countries for women in the world (Clifford, 1980). (...)...: Despite the absence of evidence, the myth persists that an abundance of sexually explicit material invariably leads to an abundance of sexual activity and eventually rape (e.g., Liebert, Neale, & Davison, 1973). Indeed, the data we report and review suggest the opposite. Christensen (1990) argues that to prove that available pornography leads to sex crimes one must at least find a positive temporal correlation between the two. The absence of any positive correlation in our findings, and from results elsewhere, between an increase in available pornography and the incidence of rape or other sex crime, is prima facie evidence that no link exists. But objectivity requires that an additional question be asked: "Does pornography use and availability prevent or reduce sex crime?" Both questions lead to hypotheses that have, over prolonged periods, been tested in Denmark, Sweden, West Germany and now in Japan. Indeed, it appears from our data from Japan, as it was evident to Kutchinsky (1994), from research in Europe, that a large increase in available sexually explicit materials, over many years, has not been correlated with an increase in rape or other sexual crimes. Instead, in Japan a marked decrease in sexual crimes has occurred."

[Marie]

Very interesting, and I have also heard about these kinds of studies before, just like m4yadult.

I have actually used it in discussions about female-unfriendliness (is that even a word?? haha) of porn.

[frank7799]

Originally Posted by Marie

Very interesting, and I have also heard about these kinds of studies before, just like m4yadult.

I have actually used it in discussions about female-unfriendliness (is that even a word?? haha) of porn.

I´ve been working for several years on that matter. If you are interested in it, hit me up on ICQ. I´m on your list.

Cheers Frank

I´ll be in Amsterdam in september. Would be nice to meet you.

[polish_aristocrat]

hookers prevent rape

[connectz]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I like to call it "suprise sex" -- rape seems like a harsh term

Idiotic article on both parts. Assuming the decline in sexual assault is the result of access to porn is absurd and presumptuous to say the least. While it makes us who peddle smut feel better, rationalization is simply that. There's a slew of other factors that would need to be considered with the decline in rape & sexual reports/prosecutions. The emergence of female sexuality - e.g. more promiscuity, the fear of reprisal for reports, the advancement of forensic evidence to distinguish between false and actual incidents. The deterrent effect of those forensic advances for both women and men. Sociopaths don't like going to jail and just screaming "rape" doesn't fly in a court anymore. The public health campaigns against sexual assault. The fear of social consequences for engaging in the behavior,. Possibly there?s a differentiation between what was considered sexual assault then and now, etc., etc.,

The MIM guy at least attacks the position at it's core, the assumption that pornography is cathartic yet he fails to deviate between those who commit rape (sociopaths as a rule) and those involved in sexual attacks towards children. Pedophiles for the most part are not sociopaths. To the contrary, in most instances, their fucked up mind has a sense of caring for their victim. To use child exploitation as a parallel with rape is a red herring.

Correlation is not causation and journalistic standards do not compare to academic or scientific levels of scrutiny.

I can find a correlation between the number of meth users and the number of gambling addicts in the US. It means nothing.

[BubeeMike]

Many studies say rape isn't even a crime of Sexual Satisfaction or lust but a crime of Power or controll. Power over the person being raped. Just look at many of the books written on the subject.

[godisdead]

This reminds me of this George Carlin routine:

"Is there more rape at the equator or the north pole?" (Yes, these are the kinds of questions I ask myself when I sit home alone and the TV is broken ...)

Usually people answer the equator. Why? Because people are half naked, get horny and there's a lot of fucking going on. But that's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on.

Compare this to a sexually frustrated eskimo who doesn't even see anything naked for seven and a half years. It must be hard for him to get this eskimo woman out of all her clothes while she's kicking and screaming.

[PoonPros - Ben]

I would say absolutely yes

[Juilan]

For the majority emotionally satisfied by catharsis hell yes. For those who fear nothing and feel nothing, probably beyond the help of catharsis.

[Martin3]

I'm not really buying it. Rape is one of the most unreported crimes around. And the media goes apeshit over rapes cases these days, plastering names and photo's all over tv/internet. Could discourage alot from reporting it.

There's a million things you could look at.
The sex offenders list - once you're on the list, you're there for life.

Better education for women on what/how to avoid certain situations

Mace, tasers, concealed carry perments, etc...

Alot of rapes happen while the rapist is under the influence. The whole war on drugs thing started in the 80's and jail sentences have increased dramatically for drug offerenders. DWI/PI laws are also 10 times more strict now than then

Could go on and on.... There's alot of factors to consider

[flashfire]

guy who cant get any looks at porn, beats it, doesnt feel like raping anyone

[ideas]

if it helps my ratio's up...

i believe every story!

[nAtuRaLbEautY]

maybe..

[Marie]

Originally Posted by m4yadult

I´ll be in Amsterdam in september. Would be nice to meet you.

Yes, see you here next month!

[fetishblog]

I rape myself every day. But you can't rape the willing since I just can't say no. ;)

[davidd]

3 strike laws have had the biggest effect on declining rape rates.

If you look at the inceration rate in the USA over this same time frame you will see a correlation.

I had someone say to me last year, "Internet porn has stopped violent sex offenses". Completely ignoring the 3 strikes laws went into effect at the same time the internet took off.

Removing violent offenders from the general population will always have the biggest effect... No scientific study I have seen on this issue has ever considered the other variables.

[frank7799]

Originally Posted by davidd

3 strike laws have had the biggest effect on declining rape rates.

If you look at the inceration rate in the USA over this same time frame you will see a correlation.

I had someone say to me last year, "Internet porn has stopped violent sex offenses". Completely ignoring the 3 strikes laws went into effect at the same time the internet took off.

Removing violent offenders from the general population will always have the biggest effect... No scientific study I have seen on this issue has ever considered the other variables.

Interesting point. Which laws you are referring to?

[goldrush]

i generally like to watch some porno while i'm getting ready to go out to do some rapes, so there goes that theory.

[davidd]

Originally Posted by m4yadult

Interesting point. Which laws you are referring to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_strikes_law

Basically it takes offenders off the streets, for life, after 3 convictions. Its main target is violent offenders... The laws started to roll out in 1994 in many states in the USA.

[damonx]

i think that pornography and prostitution can prevent rapes