(I hope I don't get banned for this, cuz it's a serious statement/question) CP

[Platinum Lantern]

Let's face it, GFY has a TON of webmasters.

I've read reports of how Underage Porn is an X amount of millions a year industry. I don't remember the exact figure qouted in the crime report but it was a SHOCKINGLY high number.

With that being said is it fair to say AT LEAST 1 webmaster who posts here or has ever posted here is involved (knowingly traded traffic with or profited in some way) in that HORRIBLE stuff?

So I say all that to say, I'm glad the feds are involved with online porn. I'm glad they are looking over our shoulders. If you've got your hands clean you've got nothing to worry about.

[marketsmart]

that type of question has no business being asked here....

[Spunky]

Strike 2

[Platinum Lantern]

Read the whole statement.....
We talk about 2257 all the time....
To me this is no different...

My point is I'm glad to FEDS are watching
Because statistically there has be at LEAST 1 guilty party

[Damian_Maxcash]

In a way yes - but as someone who deals with porn all day how much ends up a webmasters computer by accident?

Stumbling on a dodgy pop-up while reviewing gals could leave you with CP on your HD.

If they didnt abuse the powers they have and played fair then yes I would agree 100% - but thats not the case.

[Platinum Lantern]

Wow....
Like I said....
If I get banned for a serious topic and discussion about the industry and crime and regulations, then I don't know what to say.

[heywood]

Most of the shitbags involved in underage porn keep a low profile. I'd be willing to guess 99% of the people here wouldn't do business with them anyway. We'd rather turn their asses in.

People like that blur the line between adult webmaster and pedophile, and that's not something any of us are happy about.

[heywood]

Originally Posted by damian2001

If they didnt abuse the powers they have and played fair then yes I would agree 100% - but thats not the case.

I agree with you. I have nothing to hide, but most of these laws are just bullshit to push porn out of america, to offshored companies, in my opinion. And they definitely don't play fair.

[notabook]

On one of those reporting shows they said that cp brings in a staggering 7 to 9 billion dollars a year... that number seems kinda ridiculously high to me, but dunno what all they include as cp.

[Spunky]

I was being sarcastic..nobody but scum would touch it

[Platinum Lantern]

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Yes, notabook I don't remember the figure exactly, but I remember reading the figure and thinking damn thats a HUGE figure, with a figure that MASSIVE I'm willing to bet that at LEAST one of these "rich guys" on GFY has his hand in that illegal cookie jar

[L-Pink]

The reasons certain subjects are NOT discussed is this fact: Certain crimes have more people in jail for talking about them than committing them. It's called conspiracy.

A gun dealer answers a customers question about changing parts in an assault rifle, conspiracy to possess an automatic weapon.

Most heavy drug sentences are federal and they are for planning a deal with an undercover agent, no drugs are in the equation but conspiricy to distribuite is the charge.

You should know better.

[TexasDreams]

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

Let's face it, GFY has a TON of webmasters.

I've read reports of how Underage Porn is an X amount of millions a year industry. I don't remember the exact figure qouted in the crime report but it was a SHOCKINGLY high number.

With that being said is it fair to say AT LEAST 1 webmaster who posts here or has ever posted here is involved (knowingly traded traffic with or profited in some way) in that HORRIBLE stuff?

So I say all that to say, I'm glad the feds are involved with online porn. I'm glad they are looking over our shoulders. If you've got your hands clean you've got nothing to worry about.

It has happened in the past, and it has resulted in interesting emails, phone calls, and icq's with the FBI and Secret Service. We keep a policy of zero-tolerance, and that's a GOOD thing.

[Platinum Lantern]

LPINK

Well I guess I should burn every Klixxx magazine I ever got that mentioned 2257, because I don't want to be implicated in a conspiracy by being associated with the issue

[notabook]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

The reasons certain subjects are NOT discussed is this fact: Certain crimes have more people in jail for talking about them than committing them. It's called conspiracy.

A gun dealer answers a customers question about changing parts in an assault rifle, conspiracy to possess an automatic weapon.

Most heavy drug sentences are federal and they are for planning a deal with an undercover agent, no drugs are in the equation but conspiricy to distribuite is the charge.

You should know better.

So if I own a gun and a ski-mask, they could arrest me for conspiracy on robbing a bank? Hey, what more do you need other than a ski-mask and a gun to walk into any bank (or any place for that matter) and demand mad money? I DEMAND that we arrest and throw in jail any and every American who has a gun and a ski-mask because they are planning on robbing a bank TOMORROW! Alert the interwebs!

[pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE]

my take is this

first of all let me say I am 1000% against C-P

however I am also 1000% against calling stuff the same when it is not. for instance a minor engaged in any type of act with an adult or another minor IS C-P

but

A 17 y/o girl flashing on myspace is not C-P

thats my opinion

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by notabook

So if I own a gun and a ski-mask, they could arrest me for conspiracy on robbing a bank? Hey, what more do you need other than a ski-mask and a gun to walk into any bank (or any place for that matter) and demand mad money? I DEMAND that we arrest and throw in jail any and every American who has a gun and a ski-mask because they are planning on robbing a bank TOMORROW! Alert the interwebs!

No, but talk to a friend about it and be overheard or ratted on and you have just been arrested for conspiracy to commit armed robbery.

A gun dealer at a gun show tells someone how to modify a weapon and he is in trouble.

Most are setups .... Make fun ... you just don't know better.

[detoxed]

Your light of stupidity shines brighter and brighter with each enlightened statement that you make. Hey, if we are all doing nothing wrong we shouldnt have a problem wearing tracking bracelets and giving government control over our day to day life, they know what I need better than I do.

Online porn as an industry is against the CP "industry". They may share some of the same sick customers, but hey, they are the electric companies customers too. CP is used as an excuse to control the adult industry and have the ability to raid offices at any moment, searching ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING there, for 2257 paperwork, which no CP provider would have or give a fuck about. Want to keep down CP? Arrest individuals making it. They dont stay above the radar and wont fill out the paperwork, gotta go underground to stop it.

[detoxed]

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

Wow....
Like I said....
If I get banned for a serious topic and discussion about the industry and crime and regulations, then I don't know what to say.

I'd rather see you banned for pure ignorance in all things, not for this thread.

[L-Pink]

Conspiracy is a crime, and conspiring to commit a felony is a felony.

Criminal conspiracy occurs whenever two or more people agree or combine to commit a crime and any one person does any act towards committing that crime, although the mere discussion of a felony act may constitute a conspiracy.

All parties involved in criminal conspiracy are subject to fines, criminal charges, or both, up to or equivalent to the penalties of the completed crime, unless the completed crime?s penalty is life imprisonment, as it is for first-degree intentional homicide, in which case the alleged conspirator would be charged with a Class B felony.

A Class B felony is punishable by imprisonment for up to 60 years.

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This is a he said she said crime.

There is a 98% Federal conviction rate.

All sentences are mandatory minimum.

Guns, drugs, and kid crimes are only foolishly discussed.

Anyone sarcastically saying otherwise has never been exposed to the potential nightmare of being innocently charged.

[Platinum Lantern]

OH and since were on the subject...

I FIND IT REALLY FUCKED UP THAT VIDEO PRODUCERS WHO ARE IN THE "INDUSTRY" PRODUCE PORN WITH MODELS ATTEMPTING TO APPEAR UNDERAGE.

PIGTAILS, LOLLIPOPS, HOLDING STUFFED ANIMALS....
This is the accepted shit........

If your going to promote 18+ TEEN porn then it's legal so I guess you have the right to, but when you try to sell the customer a SICK FANTASY I think it's really FUCKED UP and this type of shit happens TOO FUCKING MUCH in my opinon

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

Wow....
Like I said....
If I get banned for a serious topic and discussion about the industry and crime and regulations, then I don't know what to say.

hahahahaaha.... as if you have a real gift for "knowing what to say"

[Lazonby]

If webmasters could police their own instead of saying they are going to suck juicy's cock, arguing over things they know nothing about and posting pathetic fake drama threads, the 'Feds' wouldn't need to look over shoulders quite so often. But hey what do I know.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

LPINK

Well I guess I should burn every Klixxx magazine I ever got that mentioned 2257, because I don't want to be implicated in a conspiracy by being associated with the issue

That's not what I said. The first post included .....

("With that being said is it fair to say AT LEAST 1 webmaster who posts here or has ever posted here is involved (knowingly traded traffic with or profited in some way) in that HORRIBLE stuff?")


Do you know what kind of criminal dumbass answer you could have gotten from that question? You know some of the trolls on GFY. The conversation, naming, fingerpointing? A whole thread ...

Yea It sounds ridiculous. So is your having to worry about 2257 when your kid can type "blowjob" on google images and see pics of one.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

(I hope I don't get banned for this, cuz it's a serious statement/question) CP

THAT is NOT our industry.

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

THAT is NOT our industry.

Because it suits us, we have far too simplistic a point of view.

Playb*y magazine is about as soft as porn gets, so put that standard at one end of the spectrum. Not as an age issue but because of the degree of offense it causes, put CP on the other end. Somewhere in between is a huge gray area covering the majority of opinions as to where the line should be drawn.

There is a lot more than CP on the wrong side of that gray area, yet CP is about the only thing to which, except individually, we ever say no. From a business point of view, how can that make sense when we know we shall always face vocal critics, who all but have the stage to themselves?

And we don't stop there. Some of our best known names sell over-priced crap and earn money from, if not actually get involved in, some very borderline sales methods. Our leading sponsors earn money from people pushing stolen content. This board, the biggest we have, describes itself as "Where The Industry Meets" and it is worse than embarassing. Be honest, if you weren't in this business, you would wonder what kind of people are here.

We don't seem to want to learn anything. We already have to pay extra money to Visa and work with a whole lot of rules, not merely financial ones. And it's obvious that the government is going to do an end run around the First Amendment sooner rather than later. Yet we carry on as if it's business as usual. Nero was probably paying more attention to Rome burning...

[Degenerate]

What about that fat niggar bitch Oprah that thinks every person WORKING IN PORN is involved in CP....

Fucking whore, I hate her, she has no clue.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Degenerate

What about that fat niggar bitch Oprah that thinks every person WORKING IN PORN is involved in CP....

Fucking whore, I hate her, she has no clue.

what makes you better than her? you sound pretty ignorant yourself. in fact, you sound exactly like the kind of person her and her viewers would imagine would be a pornographer.

[jaffie]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Strike 2

[Dirty Dane]

While online CP is also about money, offline/IRL 1 out of 20 kids have more or less been abused. For every abused there is an abuser, so statistically there are some thousands child abusers registered here. Wordwide, 300 million

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

While online CP is also about money, offline/IRL 1 out of 20 kids have more or less been abused. For every abused there is an abuser, so statistically there are some thousands child abusers registered here. Wordwide, 300 million

you can trust us.

show us on the doll where the bad man touched you:

[Hooligan]

Originally Posted by TexasDreams

It has happened in the past, and it has resulted in interesting emails, phone calls, and icq's with the FBI and Secret Service. We keep a policy of zero-tolerance, and that's a GOOD thing.

FBI use icq? Cool