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Old 08-24-2006, 02:54 AM   #1
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are there really no alternatives to ePassporte ?

or are there ? update me
even if it's not a very good alterative - tell me
even if it's in the works - hope me
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Old 08-24-2006, 02:54 AM   #2
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Old 08-24-2006, 02:57 AM   #3
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Neteller.

Maximum amount of 40gz and no faxing needed - free ATM.
Not a standard though in adult, but should be.
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Old 08-24-2006, 03:00 AM   #4
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there're some russian alternatives but I don't want to help them to gain market share if I don't gain anything
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Old 08-24-2006, 04:20 AM   #5
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www.funds2go.com - works fine for me since a year or so
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:25 AM   #6
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there're some russian alternatives but I don't want to help them to gain market share if I don't gain anything

than see it as epassporte's loss, you know they deserve it hehe
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:26 AM   #7
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of course I was referring to a solution that allows porn
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:55 AM   #8
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:00 AM   #9
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Neteller is 100% standard with poker and I could be a good solution for porn as well - I like epass better though but I am using both all the time.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:03 AM   #10
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www.funds2go.com - works fine for me since a year or so

I second that
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:14 AM   #11
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:21 AM   #12
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webmoney, egold. can't say i've used them or care for them much though. the whole idea of converting money to 'precious metals' is annoying.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:39 AM   #13
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there was something like moneybookers???

I remember I started signing up but didn't finish for whatever reason
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:53 AM   #14
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ya there are alternatives.. but if nobody uses them, then it's useless.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:30 AM   #15
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ya there are alternatives.. but if nobody uses them, then it's useless.
you are right but, if it's fast/easy/free to open an account, why shouldn't sponsors open an account on all and use them as payment method options ?
affiliates that are fed up with epass will choose only 1
there is definitely a need
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:38 AM   #16
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:43 AM   #17
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:49 AM   #18
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:32 AM   #20
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:49 AM   #21
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There are hundreds of alternatives, but until they are on every sponsor programs signup form they are useless.
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Old 08-26-2006, 11:00 AM   #22
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ya there are alternatives.. but if nobody uses them, then it's useless.
Exactly. I work with two or three sponsors who pay only by wire or EP. They charge up to $20 per wire and because I live in the middle of nowhere,
all the local banks charge $10 for receiving US wires and $30 for foreign wires.

So the choice for me is lose $50 off each payment, avoid such sponsors, or work with EP. Add to that, I have never needed multiple banks or "alternate" names and addresses, so since PayPal zapped me because ARS sent a payment through after the introduction of their no-adult rules, I haven't been able to open another account. Which leaves EP as the only common payment option when I do any business with other webmasters.

And I hate it. All the people praising EP seem to be overlooking that they are doing the job they were set up to do. Of course things are going to happen as they should most of the time for most of the people. Almost all their work revolves around automated "electronic" transactions, for heaven's sake. The test isn't whether such a business normally works, but how fast and efficiently it deals with any problems which arise. And that is where EP fall down. I put as little through them as possible, but I guarantee I have spent more time with EP on the 'phone and with emails in the last 3 or whatever years, than I have spent communicating with all the banks put together that I have worked with over the past 40 years.

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Old 08-26-2006, 12:02 PM   #23
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it should be a standard for sponsors to use at least one more alternative to ePass, either it's Neteller or funds2go or whatever - as long as there are no fees for opening accounts - why not ?
everybody seems to be crying there are no alternatives but I think they are - we just need to decide as sponsors and affiliates to use them.
what is wrong with this logic ?
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:06 PM   #24
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it should be a standard for sponsors to use at least one more alternative to ePass, either it's Neteller or funds2go or whatever - as long as there are no fees for opening accounts - why not ?
everybody seems to be crying there are no alternatives but I think they are - we just need to decide as sponsors and affiliates to use them.
what is wrong with this logic ?
Honestly? I think funds2go.com is where it's going to go. Better telephone response, higher daily withdrawal limits, better response time (in terms of finishing up something) - other than Keyser trying to make things roll faster, if it's out of his hands, then you better sacrifice a goat to get something done with Epassporte.

I hope more sponsors start adding Funds2go to their systems sooner so people can receive their money and withdraw it as they please. I think the pricing is competetive anyhow so give the affiliates a choice on how to get their money.
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:34 PM   #27
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www.idbill.com - they are supposedly in beta, but it looks promising to me.
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Has anyone used AlertPay.com? I read their terms and they appear to accept adult.
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there are alot better alternatives.. like throwing your money into a big fire...
a toilet

a grinder

a mexican hooker

so on and so forth
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Old 08-26-2006, 08:57 PM   #31
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:06 PM   #32
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Maximum amount of 40gz and no faxing needed - free ATM.
Not a standard though in adult, but should be.
Neteller doesn't cover my country (PHILIPPINES) though
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I signed up for ePassporte today so I could load an account with Traffic Holder... 1st of - they charged me $10 to load $140, then $35 for an actual card.... Then 25 cents to do the transaction... what a ripp-off...

Bet I'll even get charged a cash advance fee from the credit card co.

Best part - 5 minutes after going through the process that included me having to call the credit card co to find out what they charged as a validity check... Capital One calls me asking if the load and pending charge are fraud...

ePassporte is obviously being watched by Capital One... and maybe Visa has them set in their sights.
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I signed up for ePassporte today so I could load an account with Traffic Holder... 1st of - they charged me $10 to load $140, then $35 for an actual card.... Then 25 cents to do the transaction... what a ripp-off...

Bet I'll even get charged a cash advance fee from the credit card co.

Best part - 5 minutes after going through the process that included me having to call the credit card co to find out what they charged as a validity check... Capital One calls me asking if the load and pending charge are fraud...

ePassporte is obviously being watched by Capital One... and maybe Visa has them set in their sights.
this is not a standard epass bashing thread, we are looking for alternatives.
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why can't ccbill just make an ATM card to withdraw credit
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Why aren't people using moneybookers or paymonde?
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moneybookers: no porn allowed:
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Another Vote for Funds2go. Works same as epass, (atm withdrawl wise), similar fees, just it's a MC not a Visa.

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I don't know, but I'll stick with ePass!!
you should'nt use only 1
the thing is one day they will go belly up, epass that is - so you NEED an alternative even if you don't need it NOW
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funds2go is the best alternative for epassporte
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No need for alternative,epass work's fine.Maybe is bad for companys but for personal users works fine.
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funds2go is the best alternative for epassporte
Aren't funds2go and paymonde the same crap?

A little birdie told me that a safe system with withdrawal limits of $2500 per day is just around the corner.
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Aren't funds2go and paymonde the same crap?

A little birdie told me that a safe system with withdrawal limits of $2500 per day is just around the corner.
does that little birdie have a wooden leg and goes by the name of Chio ?
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When is some porn baron going to open their own bank and make a fortune on this?
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