WTF Refunds & Chargebacks??? - GoFuckYourself.com

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 11:00 AM

What are the rules now with chargebacks and refunds??? WTF can surfers just signup to anything now and chargeback and refund when every they want for any reason?? About a week about i got hit for a chagreback in ccbill for a sale made over a month ago and today i got a refund for a sale made 10 fucking days ago on Crackwhoreconfessions now if you know that site then you will know there is not a fucking chance in fucking hell that the surfer did not get what they paid for or was tricked into signing up WTF that site is the best real hooker site ever with tons of content from years and updated weekly or more.....so what they can now just do this whenever they want now?? I never saw this until this month?? Did something change in visa rules this is bullshit

it basically means there real is no point anymore how the fuck can you plan a business if you might lose all your sales fucking 2 months later when you already paid bills with that money.

p.s. and it's not the way i sell or my surfers most of my ccbill sponsors i have average rebills going on 2years plus. It's not like i told a surfer to goto crackwhore confessions for innocent teens lol

dcortez · 08-29-2006, 11:19 AM

It seems that more and more surfers are out there intentionally signing up and cancelling or CB'ng knowing that they can.

Degenerate · 08-29-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

most of my ccbill sponsors i have average rebills going on 2years plus

Fucking bullshit. You may have a few, that is NOT the average.

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Degenerate

Fucking bullshit. You may have a few, that is NOT the average.

it is my average on my top creampie sponsors, and crackwhoreconfessions about the same. That's why i sell them

Doctor Dre · 08-29-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

it is my average on my top creampie sponsors, and crackwhoreconfessions about the same. That's why i sell them

LMAO. Industry standard is like 3 months. Bullshit my friend.

Unless they give access to 30 other websites and have 2+ exclusive scenes added each day in every site... NO.

Fizzgig · 08-29-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

It seems that more and more surfers are out there intentionally signing up and cancelling or CB'ng knowing that they can.

You can blame greedy webmasters for that.

DWB · 08-29-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Degenerate

Fucking bullshit. You may have a few, that is NOT the average.

I can tell you for sure that Babymaker has great rebills with me, some of the longest I have. The creampie niche, even better the ASIAN creampie niche is a strong one and he was in from day one on it.

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

LMAO. Industry standard is like 3 months. Bullshit my friend.

Unless they give access to 30 other websites and have 2+ exclusive scenes added each day in every site... NO.

Actually the sponsors i am talking about do have a few exlusive sites for one price, howigotrich dirty d's sites i usually promote gloryholegirlz or crackwhoreconfesions he updates at least once a week with very rare exlusive content on each site and rebills go at least a year there and amateurnetcash, amatercreampie(s) and hotwivesgirlfriends and westcoastgangbangs thay do the same and rebills go about 2 years on average. I was trying to get some screencaps but ccbill keeps timing out...believe it or not i am not worried

it's not like i was claiming i make a million a day submiting overexpose teen crap to skim thumb tgps lol or that $1 trial overexposed scammy sponsors were doing that lol

just a few specific sites i sell that do that, creampie cathy also rebills like that.

AMATEUR NET CASH:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...eurnetcash.com

CREAMPIE CATHY:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...cathycash.com/

SWINGER MONEY:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ingermoney.com

GHOST CASH:

http://creamgoodies.com/go/?0007-ec-458505

and ghostcash

i know the industry average is like 3 months and falling, but i don't activley promote that kind of generic mainstream porn so it's a different ballgame really, the problem is that the market for what i promote is not as large though as the generic porn, so it evens out. So not claiming i am rich lol even though it's GFY.

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I can tell you for sure that Babymaker has great rebills with me, some of the longest I have. The creampie niche, even better the ASIAN creampie niche is a strong one and he was in from day one on it.

Yes asianbabymakers is great too! I jumped on DWB's site as soon as it came out and his site rebills about 2 years as well. It is only certain sites with real exclusive (not something just only you have but anyone can make) i mean real rare and exlusive content like asianbabymakers that you wont find on another site rebills for 2 years.

P.s. How ya been DWB i don't see you on icq latley you have new #??

DWB · 08-29-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

LMAO. Industry standard is like 3 months. Bullshit my friend.

Unless they give access to 30 other websites and have 2+ exclusive scenes added each day in every site... NO.

Again, I will stand up here and go to bat for Babymaker.

We have many members who have been with me for over a year now on some niche sites.

I will also agree that AVERAGE retention is 3 months. However, TRUE creampie sites (and other true niche sites) that are understood and ran by guys who love that niche, rebill like a mofo. My Asian creampie site retains like most of you would never believe IF you send the right sales to it.

If you base it all on normal, non-exclusive content sites, or sites that don't understand the niche, you will have low re-bills.

It's all about understanding your niche and selling it to like minded people.

DWB · 08-29-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

P.s. How ya been DWB i don't see you on icq latley you have new #??

I'm on bro. Always hiding...

hit me if ya need me.

dcortez · 08-29-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizzgig

You can blame greedy webmasters for that.

Agreed (no pun intended). The rebill tricksters spoiled the (cc) party for all.

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Again, I will stand up here and go to bat for Babymaker.

We have many members who have been with me for over a year now on some niche sites.

I will also agree that AVERAGE retention is 3 months. However, TRUE creampie sites (and other true niche sites) that are understood and ran by guys who love that niche, rebill like a mofo. My Asian creampie site retains like most of you would never believe IF you send the right sales to it.

If you base it all on normal, non-exclusive content sites, or sites that don't understand the niche, you will have low re-bills.

It's all about understanding your niche and selling it to like minded people.

this is the point, people will only get this type of retention if they know the niche and have the right traffic, and it only works on a site like asianbabymakers where the site is owned by someone who knows theirniche and loves it, if i tried to do this with a really good hentai site for example it would never work since i have no idea in hell why someone wants to jackoff to cartoons

but someone else who loves hentai and hasa great hentaisite surley could

now back to chargeback and refends lol....i saw a post somewhere about a rule change?? i seriously don't understand how someone can chargeback a month later?? or get a refund over a week later?? this is legalized stealing.

babymaker · 08-29-2006, 12:34 PM

pps DWB our asian creampie group has over 3k members now lol we should actually do something with it

lets come up with a plan, i will icq you

Manowar · 08-29-2006, 04:41 PM

ccbill sponsors rule

minusonebit · 08-29-2006, 04:51 PM

Friendly fraud always has been a problem, the more people that figure out how the system works, the worse its gonna be for all concerned...

venus · 08-29-2006, 05:03 PM

Lots of amateur sites and sites with exclusive stuff have really good retention, I still have about 100 members being rebilled since 1997, about half of my members stay at least 6 months and a quarter of them stay for over a year.

On refund and chargebacks, one thing I have noticed is that when sales are down, refunds and chargebacks seem to be up, when sales are high, I do not get hardly any. Sales, chargebacks, refunds also seem to go with the stock market for some reason, when the stock market is down, USA signups seem to be slower.

08-29-2006, 11:00 AM	#1
babymaker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: philly Posts: 4,751	WTF Refunds & Chargebacks??? What are the rules now with chargebacks and refunds??? WTF can surfers just signup to anything now and chargeback and refund when every they want for any reason?? About a week about i got hit for a chagreback in ccbill for a sale made over a month ago and today i got a refund for a sale made 10 fucking days ago on Crackwhoreconfessions now if you know that site then you will know there is not a fucking chance in fucking hell that the surfer did not get what they paid for or was tricked into signing up WTF that site is the best real hooker site ever with tons of content from years and updated weekly or more.....so what they can now just do this whenever they want now?? I never saw this until this month?? Did something change in visa rules this is bullshit it basically means there real is no point anymore how the fuck can you plan a business if you might lose all your sales fucking 2 months later when you already paid bills with that money. p.s. and it's not the way i sell or my surfers most of my ccbill sponsors i have average rebills going on 2years plus. It's not like i told a surfer to goto crackwhore confessions for innocent teens lol __________________ $99mo Hosted CMS From ElevatedX! ICQ 293125596

08-29-2006, 12:34 PM	#14
babymaker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: philly Posts: 4,751	pps DWB our asian creampie group has over 3k members now lol we should actually do something with it lets come up with a plan, i will icq you __________________ $99mo Hosted CMS From ElevatedX! ICQ 293125596

08-29-2006, 05:03 PM	#17
venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	Lots of amateur sites and sites with exclusive stuff have really good retention, I still have about 100 members being rebilled since 1997, about half of my members stay at least 6 months and a quarter of them stay for over a year. On refund and chargebacks, one thing I have noticed is that when sales are down, refunds and chargebacks seem to be up, when sales are high, I do not get hardly any. Sales, chargebacks, refunds also seem to go with the stock market for some reason, when the stock market is down, USA signups seem to be slower. __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

08-29-2006, 11:19 AM	#2
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	It seems that more and more surfers are out there intentionally signing up and cancelling or CB'ng knowing that they can.

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Friendly fraud always has been a problem, the more people that figure out how the system works, the worse its gonna be for all concerned...