Ambush Interview #99 12clicks - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

1. Rhumor has it if you didn't shave you'd be called 15clicks. Discuss how Serge gave you this name early on.

well, first of all, the aspersions cheaters used to cast my way were that we didn't pay. The shave thing was never something we were accused of except by a few people who didn't know what a 12 hour unique was and wanted to know why, even though they clicked their link 10 times, they only got credit for one click.

The Serge story is an old one that will probably bore people with the re-telling but here it is.

When I first started in this biz, I ran freesites. Upon the creation of my first site, I was able to do business with the mighty serge because I was a friend of Mojo's. At the time, Serge would rant on the boards about not wanting small timers in his program. Anyway, I get his codes, put them up and send him very very little traffic. After all, my only traffic source at the time was a couple charity links from mojo. This was literally my first two weeks of getting my first free site up.
Then we get wind of a webmaster get together that Mark Tierra and possibly Sammi from Sammi's hot bucks was putting together in north jersey. We go, Serge shows up, Mojo introduces me as "big Ron" my board name at the time. Serge looks up and goes,"AAAA, of course I know big ron 12 clicks" making fun of my daily click volume. I then started using it on the boards as "big Ron 12clicks" and then shortened it to 12clicks.

On a side note, if someone could ply the people at Ynot with drinks or common sense and get them to post archives of those early board days, it would be a real eye opening education on how this biz got its start.

RAM · 09-13-2006, 09:07 AM

I have been waiting for the Story of Big Ron 12 Clicks

The Sultan Of Smut · 09-13-2006, 09:07 AM

Sweet I didn't miss it

Monique Niccole · 09-13-2006, 09:17 AM

thread bookmarked. this is going to be good

Cory W · 09-13-2006, 09:34 AM

The awesomeness of this ambush cannot be contained.

Love Ron, this should be a great one.

Peaches · 09-13-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

On a side note, if someone could ply the people at Ynot with drinks or common sense and get them to post archives of those early board days, it would be a real eye opening education on how this biz got its start.

Those archives exist on a several servers besides the YNOT ones

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

2. How did you go from roofer to sophisticated food and wine conesour?

uh, porn of course! hahahaha
I've always enjoyed fine dining, even as a roofer but obviously, more money and travel exposed me to higher and higher levels of decadence.
The wine thing just came about because I wanted to be able to handle the public situation of ordering wine properly for my dinner guests. It then lead to me appreciating and collecting. Now I'm just a drunken wino. My cellar is small but has some wines that I love including a cases of 86 margaux, 89 mouton, 96 calon segur magnums. My favorite bottles are most years of Shafer hillside select, especially the '95, most years of Peter Michael Les Pavots, and any well made Cali cab over 15yrs old.

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

lol, man those are some tough questions! ouch! i had no idea he installs spywear!

don't get your panties in a bunch. all will become clear by the end of the interview.

Mojo · 09-13-2006, 10:25 AM

>>>>
Serge looks up and goes,"AAAA, of course I know big ron 12 clicks"
>>>>

This was one of those moments where someone says something so devastatingly funny and cutting that you instantly know it's going to stick around forever.

I almost peed my pants when Serge said that.

This is fun. I can't wait to hear some of the answers....

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 10:32 AM

oh, and since Cory is going to lead with unflattering pics of me, I might as well throw in a few of my own. Its always nice to have people say,"oh, you don't look as bad as your pics"

sherie · 09-13-2006, 10:33 AM

Ahhhhhhhh Ron...Looking forward to this one! xoxox

Cory W · 09-13-2006, 10:48 AM

What are you going to wear to the Playboy Mansion?

LadyMischief · 09-13-2006, 10:50 AM

WOoohooo this should be fun. Ron is a great pick for an Ambush!

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 10:50 AM

Lettuce not forget the famed moustache.

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 10:53 AM

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

3. Why do you like getting kneed in the crotch soo much?

That fucking Jman! Its a good thing I have a small cock and he only kneed me a glancing blow to the speed bag.
I mean, WTF? I don't see the guy for years at a time, I give him a hand shake, he rolls inside and bam! WWF on the show floor. No wonder he likes hanging with you so much.

Cyndalie · 09-13-2006, 11:26 AM

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Ok, i just creamed my panties

Who twisted Rons arm to do this Ambush? Been a long time coming!

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O

This is one that actually will be worth reading

Hello, princess. I didn't know you cared.

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Who twisted Rons arm to do this Ambush? Been a long time coming!

Interview #99. There has to be some special significance there.

Is Ron the Wayne Gretzky of the adult industry?

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

i dont know 12clicks or anything about the guy, so this is gonna be all news to me

with a join date of 2001, how is that possible?

V_RocKs · 09-13-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

oh, and since Cory is going to lead with unflattering pics of me, I might as well throw in a few of my own. Its always nice to have people say,"oh, you don't look as bad as your pics"

Who is the other guy in this picture? Real name, nick, business...

GTS Mark · 09-13-2006, 11:46 AM

I have seen 12clicks post for years but funny enough I know very little about his businesses and past adult ventures. I'll be looking forwarding to learning more about the "legend" in this interview.

DH

Gnat69 · 09-13-2006, 11:53 AM

I have been seeing him post since 2003 but have never talked to him, he seems well liked and respected though....

Paul · 09-13-2006, 11:54 AM

Looking forward to this one too

Jace · 09-13-2006, 11:56 AM

who is this 12clicks character you speak of?

selena · 09-13-2006, 12:07 PM

I don't read many of these, but this one is a must. I'd have loved to have been around when the Piss Master's were out in full force.

ADL Colin · 09-13-2006, 12:08 PM

This interview is destined to become a classic.

(Some pressure for ya, bro)

O MARINA · 09-13-2006, 12:16 PM

Let's hear it all Ron

no pressure!!

Vitasoy · 09-13-2006, 12:18 PM

This one should be a good one.

Kimmykim · 09-13-2006, 12:20 PM

10. Who do you intiminate best? Discuss

IMITATE dammit, IMITATE!!!!

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

4. Is mojo really gay? Talk about you relationship with him in and out of the bedroom.

Mojo and I have often been in public restrooms together and never once have I caught him looking over. I'd say he's hetero. Oh, and we've wrestled grecko roman style a few times in the office and he's never tried to press wood against me so I'm pretty sure he's safe.

Mojo is a great great friend and business partner. Without him, I'd have never gotten involved with the internet so all of you 12clicks haters can blame him for my existance. He's extremely smart (there are very few times when he's not the smartest one in the room), sees the big picture, always sees several steps down the road, great business sense, calm demeanor, or to put it another way, the exact opposite of myself.
However, since opposites attract, we've done well together and in our almost 10 yr association, we have never had an argument. He's the one saying, "calm down, it means nothing" when I come into his office saying,"lets kill this mother fucker" He is the ying to my yang, the alligator shoes to my striped shirt, the frilly panties to my short skirt, the.........well, you get the idea.
But one thing that seems to have gripped the minds of the trolls I'd like to refute one more time. I'm not his employee

how could I be with a desk full of his naked pics?

JUSTB · 09-13-2006, 12:22 PM

I know you're getting a little older and all Ron BUT could you speed it up a LITTLE????? ; )

RayBonga · 09-13-2006, 12:22 PM

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18. How does one stack bullshit 6'6?

I'm waiting for this one

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

10. Who do you intiminate best? Discuss

IMITATE dammit, IMITATE!!!!

What do you expect from a guy who can't spell Florida correctly?

:D

JUSTB · 09-13-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

10. Who do you intiminate best? Discuss

IMITATE dammit, IMITATE!!!!

and I thought he was trying to say "intimidate" lol

Kimmykim · 09-13-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

What do you expect from a guy who can't spell Florida correctly?

:D

You mean Flordia? check your splelling ;)

8ball · 09-13-2006, 12:26 PM

finally!

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

You mean Flordia? check your splelling ;)

Is sleazy's dislexia catching? I thank I'm infelctad.

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

I wonder who will be next.

already jumping the fuck ahead?
give the devil his due

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 12:35 PM

Prediction: this thread goes 12 pages minimum.

(because that's how long it's going to take for Ron to get through all these questions) :D

RAM · 09-13-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

What are you going to wear to the Playboy Mansion?

Not only what will he wear but will he take me as his date ????????

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

5. What did the HIV clinic say when they called with the results of your tests?

"dodged another bullet, eh fag? One day you're going to get a bad case of botulism"

Cyndalie · 09-13-2006, 12:41 PM

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the frilly panties to my short skirt

this thread just keeps getting me hotter and hotter!

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Nice one I have know 12 clicks for a very long time.

and even took the time to teach me how to play Halo

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

33. How much money did you make with killing affiliate accounts, calling them cheaters but keeping their traffic (and payouts)?

I'll take this question out of turn since a hater was brave enough to post in this thread.

Why do cheaters always refer to themselves as "affiliates"
sending fraudulent traffic or traffic that is not allowed does not make you an affiliate, it makes you a cheater.
In the days when we were kings of adult pay per click, we were light years ahead of other programs when it came to fraud. Mojo actually flew to goto.com (now overture.com for you young ones) offices and gave them a talk on how we detected fraud. It was an eye opener for them and one of the reasons we were able to do big business with them.
Anyway, you'd have these guys beating programs left and right and along we came with our good looks and higher payouts. ALL the cheaters came over for the high payouts. We identified them and pointed their traffic at an identical looking page but with only PPS sponsors so as not to hurt our buyers. We then just let them run the counter up imagining they were getting paid. We saw it as our duty to clean up the industry since we had the ability.
Well, imagine the squealing that went on when these guys were outed as thieves. Here many of them were, pillars of their little online communities, outed for what they really were.

I made many many enemies for that and some of them you still see today (all under new names and swearing they never knew me before last week but badmouthing me all the same)

Then you have people like frank who wanted to collect the highest rates in the industry but didn't want to follow the rules. His argument today is that we changed our rules all the time to create cheaters out of honest webmasters. Its a simple matter to disprove this lie by looking up the programs in the wayback machine and seeing that in the long life of these programs the terms changed maybe, one, twice tops.
We never gave less than a month's notice and the notice was always via email AND on the stats page.

but you know, the franks of the world are always right. There's so much money to be made chasing honest webmasters out of the system.

Ice · 09-13-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Who is the other guy in this picture? Real name, nick, business...

Some noob named Dave.. think he owns a small program called Python or something

12clicks · 09-13-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Markit

rawlikesushi... wasnt its 1999?

it might have been earlier and ran through 2000.

jact · 09-13-2006, 01:15 PM

So Ron, always been curious. Are you a one man wonder or do you have a great team behind you?

sharp · 09-13-2006, 01:17 PM

boom. in

CDSmith · 09-13-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

So Ron, always been curious. Are you a one man wonder or do you have a great team behind you?

I know he's got modf on his team. Moof is quite the asset from what I know of it.

09-13-2006, 09:07 AM	#52
RAM They're all hookers, but mom! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Right now Shelby Twp MI Posts: 7,047	I have been waiting for the Story of Big Ron 12 Clicks __________________ RAM Fucking Machines are like CASH MACHINES See RAM on these quality sites!! Rightofftheboat.com EuroBrideTryouts.com

09-13-2006, 09:34 AM	#55
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	The awesomeness of this ambush cannot be contained. Love Ron, this should be a great one. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

09-13-2006, 10:25 AM	#59
Mojo Used to be a Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 356	>>>> Serge looks up and goes,"AAAA, of course I know big ron 12 clicks" >>>> This was one of those moments where someone says something so devastatingly funny and cutting that you instantly know it's going to stick around forever. I almost peed my pants when Serge said that. This is fun. I can't wait to hear some of the answers.... __________________ -12clicks wears fancy boots.

09-13-2006, 10:32 AM	#60
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,737	oh, and since Cory is going to lead with unflattering pics of me, I might as well throw in a few of my own. Its always nice to have people say,"oh, you don't look as bad as your pics" __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

09-13-2006, 10:33 AM	#61
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	Ahhhhhhhh Ron...Looking forward to this one! xoxox __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

09-13-2006, 09:07 AM	#53
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,326	Sweet I didn't miss it

09-13-2006, 09:17 AM	#54
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	thread bookmarked. this is going to be good

09-13-2006, 10:48 AM	#62
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	What are you going to wear to the Playboy Mansion? __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

09-13-2006, 10:50 AM	#63
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	WOoohooo this should be fun. Ron is a great pick for an Ambush! __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

09-13-2006, 10:50 AM	#64
CDSmith GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Lettuce not forget the famed moustache. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-13-2006, 10:53 AM	#65
CDSmith GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	__________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-13-2006, 11:26 AM	#67
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	[/QUOTE] Ok, i just creamed my panties Who twisted Rons arm to do this Ambush? Been a long time coming! __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

09-13-2006, 11:46 AM	#72
GTS Mark Formerly known as DH! :) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,911	I have seen 12clicks post for years but funny enough I know very little about his businesses and past adult ventures. I'll be looking forwarding to learning more about the "legend" in this interview. DH __________________ Looking For Gay, Dating, Mobile, Banner, Hardlinks, IM Ads Or Popunder Traffic? ICQ 5191566 / E-mail: [email protected] Follow Us On Twitter. Also Sign Up For Our Newsletter For Updated Weekly Traffic Inventory

09-13-2006, 11:53 AM	#73
Gnat69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 706	I have been seeing him post since 2003 but have never talked to him, he seems well liked and respected though.... __________________ [email protected] ICQ# 275-350-904 Skype - Gnat69

09-13-2006, 11:54 AM	#74
Paul Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,625	Looking forward to this one too

09-13-2006, 11:56 AM	#75
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	who is this 12clicks character you speak of?

09-13-2006, 12:07 PM	#76
selena Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On The Edge Posts: 7,989	I don't read many of these, but this one is a must. I'd have loved to have been around when the Piss Master's were out in full force. __________________ ~ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art ~The MetArt Network ~ selena.delgado9

09-13-2006, 12:08 PM	#77
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	This interview is destined to become a classic. (Some pressure for ya, bro) __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

09-13-2006, 12:16 PM	#78
O MARINA I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: internet Posts: 13,684	Let's hear it all Ron no pressure!! __________________ HookUP.com Affiliate Program [email protected]

09-13-2006, 12:18 PM	#79
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	This one should be a good one. __________________ [email protected]

09-13-2006, 12:20 PM	#80
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,016	10. Who do you intiminate best? Discuss IMITATE dammit, IMITATE!!!!

09-13-2006, 12:22 PM	#82
JUSTB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: tampa Posts: 1,740	I know you're getting a little older and all Ron BUT could you speed it up a LITTLE????? ; )

09-13-2006, 12:26 PM	#87
8ball Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 558	finally! __________________

09-13-2006, 12:35 PM	#90
CDSmith GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Prediction: this thread goes 12 pages minimum. (because that's how long it's going to take for Ron to get through all these questions) :D __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-13-2006, 01:15 PM	#98
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	So Ron, always been curious. Are you a one man wonder or do you have a great team behind you? __________________ Free agent

09-13-2006, 01:17 PM	#99
sharp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,006	boom. in