Ambush Interview #99 12clicks - Page 5 - GoFuckYourself.com

mikeyddddd · 09-13-2006, 11:42 PM

tew hunnert clicks

baddog · 09-13-2006, 11:51 PM

I am going to have to hurry home so I can read this entire ambush

RAM · 09-14-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

did I or did I not teach you everything you knew about blindlinks programs via icq?
hahahaha

yes, ladies and gentleman, before our little porn starlet Ram became famous on film, he ran a little program called cheattraffic.com

Yes yes those were the day's

DukeSkywalker · 09-14-2006, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

how about a little "black paris" wishing vooman a happy birthday?

Thats awesome!

Duke

Anna_O · 09-14-2006, 03:43 AM

So far this thread delivers

RAM · 09-14-2006, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O

So far this thread delivers

Why yes it does

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 05:13 AM

shall we pick this up again?

If you see me looking like this, its probably not a good idea to try to make a traffic deal.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Finally you admited being a scammer.

That's how I got scammed for the first and only time in this business. I had just started and after a couple of months I had reached the minimum payout. Two months after that, I still hadn't received my check so I wrote an e-mail and got a bs reply saying that my address looked suspicious so they didn't e-mail me the check, but promissed to do it. A month after that I still hadn't received my check. So I e-mailed them again and 12clicks pretty much told me to stop sending traffic because I was "not worth the trouble", and that he was going to send me a check with the total I ever made with Mojo Search.

2 months after I talked to the scammer I still didn't have my checks and I posted on a couple major boards (including this one). 12clicks started some bs threads saying that I didn't knew my address and that the checks were returned to them or something.

I hope the newbies around here are reading this and NEVER send any traffic to this scammer. I've seen quite a lot of people complaining about not breaking any rules and never getting paid.

The worst part is that the minimum payout was around $25 or something, so he's a small time thief, nothing else.

He doesn't even deny it.

Here's a classic example of a guy you don't want to do business with.
doesn't know his mom's address and wants to blame everyone else for it.

The real story goes like this:

After 3 or 4 months, tranza finally reaches our 25.00 minimum. We send out a check to the address he has supplied. He sends an email a day before a check could possibly arrive. (almost like he knows its not coming already)
He's told to give it a chance to arrive.

at some point later he sends another email saying he doesn't have his check. Our affiliate manager checks with our book keeper that its been sent. It was.
Since we're sending it to the third world, he's told to wait a bit longer because sometimes mail is slow when the postman rides a donkey.
More time goes by, still no check. No I become involved because the joker knows who I am from the boards. no problem, I help anyone who contacts me.
I put a stop payment on check number 1 at a cost of $20.00 to us have him verify his address a second time, and send out a new $25 and change check.
He emails again a few weeks later. still no check. we go rouind and round again. we put a stop payment on check number 2 at a cost of $20.00 and send out a 3rd check for $25 and change.
While this is going on, he starts going to the boards explaining how I'm cheating him out of his $25.00 even though I've now spent $40.00 plus postage to try to get him his $25.00
Well, once you start calling me a scammer while my people are busy helping you, I'm done with you.

At some point, you have to realize that just because you're working out of your mom's basement does not mean the rest of us are and if you want to operate a business, at some point you have to act like a businessman or at the very least, know your mom's address.

We manage to mail checks to every country in the world but tranza, we decide we want to cheat him out of his $25.00

Peaches · 09-14-2006, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

that would mean several people aren't bright enough to utilize it instead of one.

Or they are bright enough to keep interesting/useful information on their own server and not have to be someone who has to ask for it

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

16. Name people in this business that you feel time has passed them by.

hmmm, this is a tough question. There have been many people who have disappeared over the years both big and small. People like Tropix Terry, JD DJ, Pushrod, John IP, Sammi from Sammie's hot bucks, that list goes on and on. This business has also very quietly squeezed out most of the mid level webmasters who made an ok living with freesites, tgps, etc. Now you have program operators, part timers, and a very select few in between. But I get the vibe you want me to name current names in the hope of causing trouble.

Some people would say time has passed *me* by because I've been out of adult for so long but we'll see. If I make a successful return, could you really then say time has passed anyone by? perhaps, like me, they were just chasing other ventures.

ok, ok, I think time has passed Serge by. hahahaha, is that what you want?
I'm sure Serge is quite happy and living quite comfortably with time in adult passing him by. He certainly is only a shadow of his former self and couldn't come back with "Serge's Cash II, Electric Boogaloo" especially after this video: http://www.cecash.com/agent69/ Starring Serge, Mike AI, Sharky, Phillip Arrumbala, Brad Shaw, and more.
But hey, without Serge, I wouldn't be who I am today.

If you haven't seen this, you've got to watch. its a masterpiece.

Who else? hmmmmm. I honestly don't know. this business eats it's weak, once time has passed you by, you disappear, you don't hang around.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

That looks small time but with the amount of people he did this to its not really small time anymore.

man, you're a regular business genius! Lets see, if I cheat 10,000 webmasters out of $25.00 each, thats a whopping $250,000.00.

I'm sure you, being the scammer you are, would throw your reputation away for pocket change like that but son, out side of mom's house, that ain't what we call "not really small time"

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

16. Name people in this business that you feel time has passed them by.

I'd like to amend this answer to include Peaches (who's post above brought her to mind). She's been reduced to making nonsensical posts on chatboards.

oh, and confucy. though I don't know if she was ever *in* this business she certainly pretends she was and tries to act like show knows about the past and present. sadly, she gets most of it wrong.

The Ghost · 09-14-2006, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Since we're sending it to the third world, he's told to wait a bit longer because sometimes mail is slow when the postman rides a donkey.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tradermcduck

wow this thread brings back memories...

StandardInternet was one of my first sponsors

And yet you have nothing bad to say! shocking.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I am what I am.

You and Mojo bent over backwards to help me out when I started, I"ll never forget that.

Dude, refresh my memory. I'm getting old.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Coatsy

Mine too

And you're not even from the US!!!!

the horror!

sweetums · 09-14-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

shall we pick this up again?

If you see me looking like this, its probably not a good idea to try to make a traffic deal.

By the by...you sure are purty in pink

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I would so... so.... SO kick your ass at bubble hockey.

But you hang on to that trophy for me, k? Thanks man. :D

Dude, I haven't played a serious game of bubble hockey in a few years but I'd still kick your ass.
I played in a huge tournament at a big bar by us and lost in the finals to a ringer who travelled around winning the prizes offered in such tournaments. this one was a jetski.
I would not tarnish my internet rep. by losing to you.

Anthony · 09-14-2006, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Dude, refresh my memory. I'm getting old.

Without going into detail. Mojo asked me back in 99 to beta RLS with some traffic, and you gave me some liberties in sending that traffic. Back in those early days when I was builing up the traffic, and CJ was profitable, it was a big favor. To my knowledge, or maybe it was because back then I was building up to over 500k a day to my CJ's, I was the only one you gave the ok to send traffic that way.

At the time, being new, it was huge gesture, and I never forgot the generosity you guys showed.

lulu36 · 09-14-2006, 06:45 AM

bumpin' for a good interview!

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Oh NO back off Rammy he is ALLLLLLL mine! grrr

Great Interview Sleazy! I love reading all of 12Clicks posts. He is my big sexy beast!

I love ya Ron and I can't wait to read this whole thread.

I love your dinners as well and hope to attend them again when you get your ass back in the game. The first dinner I attended I felt the Mojo that night LOL Even kicked ass at the craps table! Can't wait to see you again!

Ron + Loryn + Grey Goose Vodka Martini's =

Here is a pic of my sexy beast with two of my favorite girls!

I hear that Mojo likes his dessert fed to him by tall blondes, is this true?

Holy shit, did my Q Score just jump after this post or what?

You certainly know how to flatter me to the point of embarrassing me.

you know, when you read this post after you quote it, this part reads:
Ron + Loryn + Grey Goose Vodka Martini's = : banana

And I'm thinking to myself, "shit, I thought I hid the banana growing in my pants pretty well when we were at the bar."

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Because of that statement it's guaranteed to be the longest one yet!

Ron asked me to marry him and make little Republican babies but we live on different sides of the country so marriage and family are out of the question. We have to settle for Internet lovin instead!

Yeah, my internet moves are killer!

Sharpie · 09-14-2006, 07:15 AM

This is maybe the most priceless piece of the era.....! I laughed my ass off again.

http://www.cecash.com/agent69/

But, you kinda had 'to be there, to understand all that it inflects. A 'newbie just would't 'get it. A great memory of power politics at it's peak:-)

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Hooorah! Ron gets an Ambush? I'm glued to my screen!!

I would post a photo but my ftp isn't set up on this station yet..

and I would watch the video, but I haven't found the box with my speakers in it yet...

I have always enjoyed my time with Ron, be it over an incredible dinner at Le Cirque or over drinks at the GFY party.

Do you have a pic of us?
I can't find one but I'm sure its been taken.
post it.

Jace · 09-14-2006, 07:18 AM

hey 12clicks

I see 12clickscash.com is up and running....is the official launch today?

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Interesting read , no doubt.

Nice seeing pioneers active again. I mean Mojo posting..holy fuck.

Good luck with your new venture

Thanks Nick.
Any truth to the rumor that you want me to succeed so you can bash me?

JUSTB · 09-14-2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yo, this thread has to make it until my program opens. The way its going, I might have to slow down my posting, not speed up.

I just have to say I bet you look much hotter in the 300 than the Benz

punker barbie · 09-14-2006, 07:40 AM

This shall be an awesome read! If you've never been to one of 12clicks and Mojo's dinners then you are totally missing out. Cant wait for the next one! ;)

punker barbie · 09-14-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

shall we pick this up again?

If you see me looking like this, its probably not a good idea to try to make a traffic deal.

Its princess 12clicks! ;)

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

17. Mojo is considered a quiet humble guy. How does he feel about your public antics?

Well. maybe we can ask him to drop in here and answer that. I would guess that there may have been one or two times where my zeal has embarrassed him or he'd have wished I toned it down just a little but I'd say in general, he's ok with it.
In the rough and tumble world of adult click brokering, you needed someone who isn't afraid to stomp on the necks of your enemies. I think he was ok with me being that guy.
I never lie and I rarely attack (its almost always a response) thats why my friends are who they are and my enemies are who *they* are.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-14-2006, 07:48 AM

exclusive pics of 12clicks and his evil twin brother

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I just laughed so hard....oh man : )

I love your wit Ron.

I am going to have to read the remainder from Europe. Looking forward to it!

I hear it's even funny in dutch.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hey, at least you could have denied that was you in the photo! My hairline is unfortunately un-mistakeable!

Brad

to say nothing of your dance moves.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ravo

Wow, is this thread ever a walk down memory lane.

12clicks (unknowingly) got me started in the 'pay-per-click' game.

Not true! I remember you as an affiliate and I remember you (briefly) as a competitor.
You were always a good guy.

Donny · 09-14-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

speaking of blindlinks.com, here's the best adult banner ever made:

I remember that banner! It's a crack up!

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

why did my spyware alarm go off when I downloaded that?

because it knows as much about spyware as you do?

that *was* fucking funny.

Donny · 09-14-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O

So far this thread delivers

What does it deliver? I'd like a pizza, can it bring me THAT? Didn't think so!

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

18. How does one stack bullshit 6'6?

by letting the top 2 inches fall off?
I'm only 6'4" you don't really want to start talking about our figures, do you?

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 08:33 AM

and while I'm on the sleazy photochop thing, I found this oldie but goodie:

modF · 09-14-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I think this thread has already covered the before and after pics.

I had been thinking of shaving it for a while but hadn't really done it. I had it for longer than some of these board members have been alive.
Anyway, we had gotten into the habit of eating sushi a couple days a week in yet another feeble attempt to lose wieght. So one day after a big sushi boat, not a little one but a japanese warship, I went home early 'cause I didn't feel too well. Stomach virus and sushi do not mix and after throwing my guts up, I had a problem. You know they call moustaches "flavor savors" right? well, I couldn't flavor this savor nor could I shake the smell. Off came the moustache. for good.
the end.

That's one theory.....

SmokeyTheBear · 09-14-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Donny

What does it deliver? I'd like a pizza, can it bring me THAT? Didn't think so!

Xenophage · 09-14-2006, 08:50 AM

nice read so far i had dinner at picasso with mojo and ron and the botto boys one of the best dinners I have ever eaten

Xenophage · 09-14-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

and while I'm on the sleazy photochop thing, I found this oldie but goodie:

mann i look good in a party hat

That was the first year sleazy threw a tgp party, and I have to say sponsoring most of them has been one of the best networking and profitable ad spends I have done

Paul · 09-14-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

And you're not even from the US!!!!

the horror!

12clicks what age were you when you got into the online adult industry?

corvette · 09-14-2006, 09:18 AM

This thread has just the right balance of information, industry history, style, humor, charisma, attempted drama, and large models passed out on couches

LadyMischief · 09-14-2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeah, yeah, yeah, here it comes. this thread is all about moof now, eh?

Sounds like someone deserves a raise!! lol!

*ducks and hides(

CDSmith · 09-14-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Dude, I haven't played a serious game of bubble hockey in a few years but I'd still kick your ass.
I played in a huge tournament at a big bar by us and lost in the finals to a ringer who travelled around winning the prizes offered in such tournaments. this one was a jetski.
I would not tarnish my internet rep. by losing to you.

I'll admit, I too lost to one of these "ringers" once. There was a guy in a local bar taking on all comers. He was destroying everyone 8-0, 10-0 etc. No one could beat him. Then people coaxed me to take him on, the game was insane. It ended in a score of 8-6.... I lost. But that "ringer" shook my hand and said that's the closest he's ever come to having just some guy out of the crowd nearly beat him.

I haven't played it in about 10 years now Ron. But I've played the game so much in my life before that, that working those handles is instinctual to me. I would be honored to kick your a... uh, PLAY you win or lose any day. :D

Peaches · 09-14-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I'd like to amend this answer to include Peaches (who's post above brought her to mind). She's been reduced to making nonsensical posts on chatboards.

That could probably be because adult isn't my main focus anymore

For some reason you think I don't make money in adult or any other business. I can tell you I'm making more now that I ever have and and that includes the late glory days where we could all make 6 figures a year while barely working

Hell, I probably still make more with adult that most people posting here.

You should know better than anyone, Ron: If you have even a bit of business sense and ambition, working for yourself earns you a lot more money, happiness and satisfaction than being a paid employee - no matter how high up the ladder the title you've given yourself is. I had to find that out the hard way, but at least I learned before I got TOO old

Nothing has passed me by, I've always chosen my own path.

Of course, Ron has somehow found a way that I can collect SSI but he won't share it with me

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Its amazing, you have some of the most beautful women in the industry as friends. Must be the wit ;)

nah, it just seems that way. the women in this business find me harmless and therefore safe to hang with.

12clicks · 09-14-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

Well it sure isn't his penis

ha sorry I couldn't resist.

size whore.

09-13-2006, 11:42 PM	#201
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09-14-2006, 05:13 AM	#207
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,737	shall we pick this up again? If you see me looking like this, its probably not a good idea to try to make a traffic deal. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

09-14-2006, 06:45 AM	#220
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09-14-2006, 07:40 AM	#228
punker barbie Meow Meow!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 10,226	This shall be an awesome read! If you've never been to one of 12clicks and Mojo's dinners then you are totally missing out. Cant wait for the next one! ;) __________________ Co-Branded White-Labels Now Available

09-13-2006, 11:51 PM	#202
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	I am going to have to hurry home so I can read this entire ambush

09-14-2006, 07:15 AM	#223
Sharpie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 438	This is maybe the most priceless piece of the era.....! I laughed my ass off again. http://www.cecash.com/agent69/ But, you kinda had 'to be there, to understand all that it inflects. A 'newbie just would't 'get it. A great memory of power politics at it's peak:-)

09-14-2006, 07:18 AM	#225
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	hey 12clicks I see 12clickscash.com is up and running....is the official launch today?

09-14-2006, 07:48 AM	#231
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09-14-2006, 08:33 AM	#239
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,737	and while I'm on the sleazy photochop thing, I found this oldie but goodie: __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

09-14-2006, 08:50 AM	#242
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	nice read so far i had dinner at picasso with mojo and ron and the botto boys one of the best dinners I have ever eaten

09-14-2006, 09:18 AM	#245
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	This thread has just the right balance of information, industry history, style, humor, charisma, attempted drama, and large models passed out on couches __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP