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Old 09-14-2006, 10:10 AM   #251
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:15 AM   #252
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19. What did it feel like getting kicked out of Grimshawn's party in 2003 Hollywood Flordia?
Another industry myth. I walked into the party with Local G (the guy who actually paid for the party) and grimshawn looks up (way up) and says,"who the fuck are you?"
I reply with,"who the fuck are YOU?"
He says, "I'm the one throwing this party, maybe you should get the fuck out"
I go, "ok" and walk out onto the balcony to drink my beer.
Later, someone whispered in his ear who I was and he came out on the balcony to politely re-introduce himself.

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Old 09-14-2006, 10:22 AM   #253
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:24 AM   #254
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Another industry myth. I walked into the party with Local G (the guy who actually paid for the party) and grimshawn looks up (way up) and says,"who the fuck are you?"
I reply with,"who the fuck are YOU?"
He says, "I'm the one throwing this party, maybe you should get the fuck out"
I go, "ok" and walk out onto the balcony to drink my beer.
Later, someone whispered in his ear who I was and he came out on the balcony to politely re-introduce himself.



I remember that! LOL Didn't LocalG show up at your office one day to meet you out of the blue?
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One of my highlights from my 9 years in the biz. We need to do it again soon! Good food, good friends, good laughs.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:29 AM   #256
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Why not 69Clicks
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:38 AM   #257
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:40 AM   #258
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:47 AM   #259
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20. As a republican what's your stand on porn and the people in this business and government involment now and in the future therein.
well, first of all, I'm not a republican, I'm a conservative who currently votes republican because they've been the better candidate for a very long time.
Because I'm not a religous person, I have no moral or ethical problem with porn or the people involved in it. duh.

The government will always use the porn industry as a whipping boy for votes because its very easy to be an "anti-porn" candidate and impossible to be a "pro porn" candidate. You've got to pay attention to what the government does and continue to be one step ahead of them.
I've been in this business long enough to know that it doesn't matter whether you've got a republican or a democrat in the white house, they'll both hang porn people if it is politically expedient.
COPA was draw up under clinton, Max Cash was attacked by the FTC under clinton and the boogie man who was ashcroft came and went without almost a whimper.
As with any business, the more adaptable to change you are, the more likely you are to succeed. Worrying about who's running the country is wasted thought.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:50 AM   #260
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:50 AM   #261
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well, first of all, I'm not a republican, I'm a conservative who currently votes republican because they've been the better candidate for a very long time.
Because I'm not a religous person, I have no moral or ethical problem with porn or the people involved in it. duh.


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Old 09-14-2006, 10:55 AM   #262
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21. How many webmasters/people did you get to put the spyware install in their pages?
we never installed spyware. We did however, have a 100% legal, fully disclaimed, adware product.
We ran it pretty much on our own junk traffic and you were the only one who I approached who considered doing it. Did you end up not doing it because you found someone else to do it with or did you just not do it?
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:04 AM   #263
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Ok, there are resemblances and then there are resemblances....that image is going to freak me out for the rest of the day
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well, first of all, I'm not a republican, I'm a conservative who currently votes republican because they've been the better candidate for a very long time.
Because I'm not a religous person, I have no moral or ethical problem with porn or the people involved in it. duh.

The government will always use the porn industry as a whipping boy for votes because its very easy to be an "anti-porn" candidate and impossible to be a "pro porn" candidate. You've got to pay attention to what the government does and continue to be one step ahead of them.
I've been in this business long enough to know that it doesn't matter whether you've got a republican or a democrat in the white house, they'll both hang porn people if it is politically expedient.
COPA was draw up under clinton, Max Cash was attacked by the FTC under clinton and the boogie man who was ashcroft came and went without almost a whimper.
As with any business, the more adaptable to change you are, the more likely you are to succeed. Worrying about who's running the country is wasted thought.
I tried and tired to explain that so many times but it never gets through. All the Porn News Mags point to Rep's as the enemy. If the industry is not careful they are going to vote a Dem in thinking "Yeah we are all safe" and then BAM the Dem really fucks the industry. But oh well, I guess you live and learn the hard way when you have a closed mind.
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22. What's the difference between spyware, installs and downloads?
I think what you're asking is "whats the difference between adware, spyware, installs, and downloads?"

spyware has always been illegal and is a program used to detect passwords, ids, track habits, change ref codes, etc. etc.
adware is much more simple. 99% of all adware just pops a popup advertisement according to the adware's design.

installs and downloads? basically the same although since most "ware" is "updateable" I guess you could call anything after the DL an install.
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23. Does termonilogy make it right? How do you feel about all the problems this has caused for people on their computers? Do you care?
Terminology is irrelevant. There is a fundamental difference in spyware and adware. however, just as people abused popups, people abused adware to the point the government had to step in. Our 100% legal adware was so innocuous, the surfer never noticed it. as with all things we do, it was done perfectly. Then you had all of the felons who make their living on the edge come in and start wrecking computers. Once that happened, we removed ourselves from that market as our reputation has always been as important to us as money. So yeah, I guess I care.
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24. Post pics of your house. Discuss. Why do you live there?
hmmmm, I actually don't have pics of my house. I've got a few odd shots and I'll post them but as with cars, I don't feel the need to snap pics.
I had the house build in 2000. its 4800sq feet with an additional 2000 sq feet of fully finished basement. its not a mansion but it has what I need, namely a home office, basement, library, patio for grilling, big kitchen, sunroom, backs to woods, deer in the yard daily. I like it.
now lets see what pics I have (they'll be totally unimpressive)

here's a shot of my library, two walls of books and one wall of mural. its a great room for nappin'


here's an odd shot of the patio. it looks better with the cushions out, full of drunk people eating steaks but I don't have a pic of that.


and lastly, here's a shot of our local deer doing their best to eat my freshly seeded back yeard years ago.
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ok, I'm out for a while to catch happy hour. I'll hit this again tonight when I'll be a little more, uh.............entertaining.
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by letting the top 2 inches fall off?
I'm only 6'4" you don't really want to start talking about our figures, do you?
Talk about a before and after shots

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and lastly, here's a shot of our local deer doing their best to eat my freshly seeded back yeard years ago.
Very Nice
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ok, ok, I'm back.
2 martinis, and a shared bottle of 1990 Opus One and a 1993 bottle of something I don't remember, here I am
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2 martinis, and a shared bottle of 1990 Opus One and a 1993 bottle of something I don't remember, here I am

opus 1? are you single?
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12clicks epitomizes the American ethos; greed, hypocrisy, deceit, arrogance - and just as he is proud to be an American I am proud to stand next to my Brazilian and Dutch compadres in being one of the many unrightfully flagged for cheating and forfeited payment.
I don't identify cheaters lightly. I understand your need to proclaim your innocence but I'm never wrong. If I said you cheated, you did. The end. It costs way to much to find legit webmasters. We don't label them as cheaters until we're sure.
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opus 1? are you single?
we've already determined our incompatibility, no?

a 2 foot back scratcher can't satisfy a 3 foot back, can it?
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Be interesting to see what this considering the base of NATS.
lets just say, we expanded their base.
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ok, ok, I'm back.
2 martinis, and a shared bottle of 1990 Opus One and a 1993 bottle of something I don't remember, here I am
Never had a $250 bottle of wine before, but I hope it made you even more "entertaining"...
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Not sure but from now on you think about it when you see me post.
no, I really won't. I'm 12clicks so I can never be mistaken for anyone else. You're Franck because it doesn't matter if you're mistaken for someone else.
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Never had a $250 bottle of wine before, but I hope it made you even more "entertaining"...
lets all hope that, eh?
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It takes experience and foresight to build a great program. 12clicks, Mojo and their team have much of that and more. I wish them well.
hey, we could fall flat on our face just like anyone else could. Thinking we can waltz back into this biz would ensure our failure.
We will not be waltzing, we shall be break dancing.
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Btw, i dont think as a person you are totally retarded. I just dont like the way you did business back in the day.
That's ok, at some point you've got to have a cut off and not lower yourself to please the lowest common denominator.
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Dude, this is going to be a 4 day bender. you've got plenty of time.
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I'll take adware over that brower jacking toolbar installing bullshit that ran rampant mostly through mainstream about 2 years ago. I can understand the need for better ad tracking and targeted delivery but installing invasive programs and overriding browser functions...those people need to die!!! God I love my mac.
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12clicks, your ambush is very entertaining! Looking forward to the rest of it...
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Or they are bright enough to keep interesting/useful information on their own server and not have to be someone who has to ask for it
right! its always smart to keep stuff past its valueable marketability.
I'd rather ask a dope why they are tripping on their dick than *be* the dope tripping on their dick.
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hey, we could fall flat on our face just like anyone else could. Thinking we can waltz back into this biz would ensure our failure.
We will not be waltzing, we shall be break dancing.
ah ha! hence the warm up

Talent, insight, foresight, and experience are good tools to have on your side though. As for the possibility of falling flat on your face, I never took you as one not to get back up and fight.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:42 PM   #295
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12clicks, your ambush is very entertaining! Looking forward to the rest of it...
you should see how entertaining I am in person.
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you should see how entertaining I am in person.
You are killin me
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Without going into detail. Mojo asked me back in 99 to beta RLS with some traffic, and you gave me some liberties in sending that traffic. Back in those early days when I was builing up the traffic, and CJ was profitable, it was a big favor. To my knowledge, or maybe it was because back then I was building up to over 500k a day to my CJ's, I was the only one you gave the ok to send traffic that way.

At the time, being new, it was huge gesture, and I never forgot the generosity you guys showed.
dude, how funny is it to say "new" and "500k a day" in the same sentence?
noobs can not really grasp what it was like back then.
Glad you remember, glad we did right by you.
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bumpin' for a good interview!
don't insult me, woman!
12clicks needs no charity bumps!
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By the by...you sure are purty in pink
pink was the new black that year.
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