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Old 09-13-2006, 11:35 AM   #1
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Dawson Shooting: Wanna Bet Where The Guns Came From?

I'll give you a hint ...






Just a hunch.
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Who did the shooting, again, the guns or the shooter?

Maybe we should start blaming people for the issues of the world and not inanimate objects.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:39 AM   #3
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you can buy guns in canada
probably came from bjuf's gun locker
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:43 AM   #4
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I was waiting for that lol
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:46 AM   #5
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guns don't kill people, BULLETS KILL PEOPLE!!
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:47 AM   #6
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What kind of retarded thread is this? Everyone I know in Canada has a gun, and they didn't come from the US.

Where are you from?
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Just a hunch.
I'll bet money that the shooters were Canadiens.

I own 16 guns, they don't shoot themselves.
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I just wanted to peek in on this retarded thread.

Why don't you just say what you want to say, it's Bushes fault. Clown.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:51 AM   #9
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well the one gun is apparently an AK-47 so that probably came from Russia I would think ;)

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Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
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You are a fucking idiot, it is people who kill people, like said above you cannot blame weapons it is the people.

have you ever tried drugs? smoked a little weed? well guess basically if you have you have also contributed.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:53 AM   #13
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Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
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Wait wait..... Gun Manufacturers?
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well the one gun is apparently an AK-47 so that probably came from Russia I would think ;)

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Nah, the AK47 is one of the most widely manufactured guns in the world. I own an Arsenal AK 47, and it was made in Las Vegas.
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This bothers me reported by the CBC

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n eyewitness told CBC News she was sitting outside Dawson College when she saw a tall, white man wearing a long black trench coat walk down the street with a large gun. He was with a number of other people, she said.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ts-dawson.html
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Nah, the AK47 is one of the most widely manufactured guns in the world. I own an Arsenal AK 47, and it was made in Las Vegas.
No shit? That's one of the most interesting things I ever learned on GFY

"Produced by Arsenal, Inc. of Las Vegas, Nev., it's the first time that full-scale licensed production of the AK-47 has been undertaken outside the Eastern Block."
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:12 PM   #18
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Hehe, I expected this response.

People kill people blah blah blah

You all sound like a broken record...

Let me ask you smart guys, if they didn't have guns do you think this would have happened?
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Hehe, I expected this response.

People kill people blah blah blah

You all sound like a broken record...

Let me ask you smart guys, if they didn't have guns do you think this would have happened?
If someone wants to kill another human being, they will do so in any way they can.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:16 PM   #20
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Well of course, Machine guns aren't made in Canada last time I checked.. That's really not the point.. What drives fucking people like this to open fire on innocent students.. That's the question
We make some pretty nice machine guns actually.

http://diemaco.com/
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I'll bet money that the shooters were Canadiens.

I own 16 guns, they don't shoot themselves.
Hey Kevsh,

Did you want to take me up on my bet?
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If someone wants to kill another human being, they will do so in any way they can.
Wrong.

The guns provided the means for them to act out whatever revenge or deranged fantasy they had. It's psychology 101.

And although my original post may look like a shot at the USA, rather it's a shot at your ridiculous gun laws - specifically, the completely insane lift on the assault weapon ban.

Early indications are that these guys were using assault rifles.
The only people that should have assault rifles, semi-automatics, etc. are the police/swat, etc. and the military.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:21 PM   #23
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What kind of retarded thread is this? Everyone I know in Canada has a gun, and they didn't come from the US.

Where are you from?
I've lived here my whole life....Know a lot of people here too. Never met anyone who owns a gun.
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Wanna Bet Where The Guns Came From?
Wanna bet which customs let them in?



Wanna bet who did the shooting?



Just a couple of hunches.
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What kind of retarded thread is this? Everyone I know in Canada has a gun, and they didn't come from the US.

Where are you from?

Maybe everyone you know......I don't know one single person that has a gun in Canada.
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Go to Alberta and you will see a lot of people with guns
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Hello Pot, this is Kettle...

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8 MILLION GUNS IMPORTED BETWEEN 1945-2000 – CSSA

“If we use a base import $ value of about $42 per gun, applied to import $ value between 1945 and 1962 (extrapolated from the period between 1962 and 1971 when import values and quantities were extremely stable), then I calculate that about 7.9 million guns entered the country between 1945 and 2000. This does not include the amount added by domestic manufacturers, such as Cooey, who reportedly produced about six million guns between the 1920s and 1970s.

There were 1.95 million firearms registered by the RCMP at the end of 1945. Adding the non-military gun imports from 1945 to 2000 to this figure yields an estimate of approx. 9.9 million guns in civilian hands. This is probably conservative since noncompliance with registration in WWII appears to have been widespread.”

SOURCE: Al Smithies, Research Director, Canadian Shooting Sports Association, November 20, 2001
A canadian company made 6 million guns, WOW.
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Hey Kevsh,

Did you want to take me up on my bet?
Obviously the shooters were Canadians, I obviously am not arguing that.
My hunch is that the guns came from south of the border (likely smuggled in) and it's a pretty fair bet.

There was an article not that long ago in a Toronto paper that traced a gun that killed a Toronto person back to Florida. It was just one instance but the article was alarming. If I can dig up the URL I'll post it here for inquiring minds.

P.S. I pray your 16 guns don't end up in the wrong hands ... that article shows how must guns that kill people were originally bought by good people for rational reasons. But through one circumstance or another they end up in the hands of criminals .. or pyschos like these kids.
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People kill people blah blah blah You all sound like a broken record...
Blaming Guns for violence is like blaming spoons that Rosie O'Donnel is a fat ass biotch.
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well the one gun is apparently an AK-47 so that probably came from Russia I would think ;)

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alot of other people make AK 47s, the Bulgarians used to make the best but I think all the factories are closed now
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Let me ask you smart guys, if they didn't have guns do you think this would have happened?
...because no one was ever killed before the invention of the firearm. People have been killing other people since they picked up the first rocks off the ground. People who want to kill will find a way.
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Wrong.

The guns provided the means for them to act out whatever revenge or deranged fantasy they had. It's psychology 101.

And although my original post may look like a shot at the USA, rather it's a shot at your ridiculous gun laws - specifically, the completely insane lift on the assault weapon ban.

Early indications are that these guys were using assault rifles.
The only people that should have assault rifles, semi-automatics, etc. are the police/swat, etc. and the military.
Right. I guess those Nazi's had that fantasy of using Gas to kill those millions of Jews, eh?
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Could of used knives! Whats the difference? Sticks,knives,guns,rocks,etc..
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Wanna bet which customs let them in?



Wanna bet who did the shooting?



Just a couple of hunches.
100% right, I just wish your gun-crazy nation could change it's ways so that our customs people (who just happen to be responsible for the largest natural border in the world) wouldn't be burdened with having to stop the tide!
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Right. I guess those Nazi's had that fantasy of using Gas to kill those millions of Jews, eh?
Anthony, you're making yourself look foolish with ridiculous comparisons.
That in no way, shape or form has ANY relevance to troubled youths walking into a school with automatic rifles.

Seriously, come back with something intelligent, I honestly know you're capable of a better comparison than this.
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Anthony, you're making yourself look foolish with ridiculous comparisons.
That in no way, shape or form has ANY relevance to troubled youths walking into a school with automatic rifles.

Seriously, come back with something intelligent, I honestly know you're capable of a better comparison than this.
Kevsh,

I find this whole thread in that mindset.

It has been shown in history, oh Hell, just 2 days ago, with 9/11 that if someone pyscho fuck wants to kill people, they can do it without guns.

2 Big Airplanes did more than just kill a few people.
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Could of used knives! Whats the difference? Sticks,knives,guns,rocks,etc..
Yep, rocks would have got the job done.


Knives? No, it's too close and personal. If you know anything about what these crimes are about and what motivates them, then you'd realize that guns are the ONLY legitimate way they could have done this.

These are cowards and only equipped with a killing weapon that takes relatively little skill to use (point, spray), could they even have contemplated this.
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Yep, rocks would have got the job done.


Knives? No, it's too close and personal. If you know anything about what these crimes are about and what motivates them, then you'd realize that guns are the ONLY legitimate way they could have done this.

These are cowards and only equipped with a killing weapon that takes relatively little skill to use (point, spray), could they even have contemplated this.
So amomium nitrate and deisel fuel could not have killed these people either?
And done a better job?
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Kevsh,

I find this whole thread in that mindset.

It has been shown in history, oh Hell, just 2 days ago, with 9/11 that if someone pyscho fuck wants to kill people, they can do it without guns.

2 Big Airplanes did more than just kill a few people.

clearly i think we shouold outlaw airplanes, tall buildings, and muslims.

that is the only logical solution to keep them from falling into the hands of evil doers.
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So amomium nitrate and deisel fuel could not have killed these people either?
And done a better job?
I brought up to Jet Planes full of Jet Fuel flying into skyscrapers.
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i was under the impression that after bill c-68 canada was a net exporter of non-military guns, i.e. they export more than they import
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As this thread predictably heats up and sidetracks all over the place, let me take a moment to explain Canadians and how we perceive the US.

I obviously don't speak for all Canadians, but I think it's fairly accurate.

We are a peaceful country and people by nature. Our history isn't as rich in warfare as many others, incl. the US.

We are swamped by US media (TV, music, movies - and in most ways, that's a good thing), but from an outside perspective we see a neighbouring country that has so many issues with race and violence, we don't understand it.

We also wonder how you can be so obsessed with your right to bear arms, it seems silly to us. But of course, we don't live there.

So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."

Of course, it's impossible but I really, really wish that the gun violence from US cities doesn't plague us. For a city of 3+ million we have maybe 50 homicides a year. We want to keep it that way and we realize that no matter how much money or personnel we put into border security, the guns will get through.

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i was under the impression that after bill c-68 canada was a net exporter of non-military guns, i.e. they export more than they import
The distinction I think the original poster was trying to make is that regular people can't get "assault rifles" or even hand guns in Canada. It is a bitch to get a handgun legally in Canada, not even worth the trouble.

Better to just buy one from the Indian reserve and keep it under your bed.

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So amomium nitrate and deisel fuel could not have killed these people either?
And done a better job?
no where near as easy as picking up a gun, inserting a cartridge and pressing the trigger.
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....angry canadians kill people!
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As this thread predictably heats up and sidetracks all over the place, let me take a moment to explain Canadians and how we perceive the US.

I obviously don't speak for all Canadians, but I think it's fairly accurate.

We are a peaceful country and people by nature. Our history isn't as rich in warfare as many others, incl. the US.

We are swamped by US media (TV, music, movies - and in most ways, that's a good thing), but from an outside perspective we see a neighbouring country that has so many issues with race and violence, we don't understand it.

We also wonder how you can be so obsessed with your right to bear arms, it seems silly to us. But of course, we don't live there.

So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."

Of course, it's impossible but I really, really wish that the gun violence from US cities doesn't plague us. For a city of 3+ million we have maybe 50 homicides a year. We want to keep it that way and we realize that no matter how much money or personnel we put into border security, the guns will get through.

Peace

Kevsh,

HOLY SHIT, I kid you not, I was writing the same post but with using a US Citizen point of view!

I love Canada. If I could live up there 6 months and 6 months down here in Fla, I would! It is a shame, that there is nowhere in this world that you can shelter yourself away from the idiots and crackpots of this world.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:53 PM   #49
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no where near as easy as picking up a gun, inserting a cartridge and pressing the trigger.
I can tell you don't fire many guns. It's not a bad thing either.
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So when the guns, drugs, illegal immigrants and other bad elements of the USA trickle up here we don't appreciate it. We think "Hey, send us your good tv shows, cars, products, etc. but keep your guns, drugs and illegals to yourself."
Three words. Celine Dion music. Payback is a bitch!
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