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Old 09-30-2006, 10:06 PM   #1
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:mad I'm done with cams.com

I know it varies per affiliate, but I've had many sales with the same traffic with pretty much every other cam sponsor, but not cams.com

I should have taken the hint when I hit 0:8000!! Right now I'm 0:8956 and I'm pulling the plug and flushing down any hope.

That's all, a little bored, felt like posting.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:07 PM   #2
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I know it varies per affiliate, but I've had many sales with the same traffic with pretty much every other cam sponsor, but not cams.com

I should have taken the hint when I hit 0:8000!! Right now I'm 0:8956 and I'm pulling the plug and flushing down any hope.

That's all, a little bored, felt like posting.

Did you talk to a sales rep?
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:09 PM   #3
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Lol, alot of us are done with cams.com man.. they just don't convert.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:10 PM   #4
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tgp traffic? seo? link list?
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What about the higher payouts? Doesn't that even it out in the long run?
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:13 PM   #6
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What about the higher payouts? Doesn't that even it out in the long run?
No sales is still zero even with higher payouts
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:17 PM   #7
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You see, I thought it would. They seem to pay well and I was hoping for atleast 1 signup to make up for the suckiness - but it never came.

I have other cam sites that convert rather well, and I was even pushing cams.com the most on the site. Big 300x250 banner you see on every page.

I didn't speak to a rep, not sure what that would give me at this point - especially with this post.

They're prices are high, and the competition is more affordable, I think that's the prob.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:19 PM   #8
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It's not a high traffic site, but I have AWE converting at 1:100 and camcrush at 1:32.

It's mostly from search engines and because it's a fairly new site, it's getting better every day.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:22 PM   #9
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little bored, so you felt like bashing a program.....

good luck in the biz dude...
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:25 PM   #10
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bashing? How about posting my experience and stats. When all is well they boast and post awesome conversions I'm sure - what about the bad times? We gotta pretend they don't exist?

If I was bashing I would say "cams.com fucken sucks" but no, they don't. They aren't a top cam site for no reason. I gotta admit that their promo tools and everything else is pretty sweet and looks good.

It just isn't working for me, that's all.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:25 PM   #11
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little bored, so you felt like bashing a program.....

good luck in the biz dude...
I don't think 0:8956 is an unjust bashing do you?
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:50 PM   #12
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I don't think 0:8956 is an unjust bashing do you?

"I didn't speak to a rep"

If you didn't even take the time to try to better the situation with a simple e-mail or icq. You shouldn't make a thread saying cams.com sucks, & mention 2 other programs that are "kicking ass" for you.

But thats just my opinion.

Everyones entitled to one.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:53 PM   #13
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:57 PM   #14
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Those programs aren't entirely kicking ass, but they're kicking something.

I just didn't perceive as telling them I've been promoting them with no returns as an option.
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"I didn't speak to a rep"

If you didn't even take the time to try to better the situation with a simple e-mail or icq. You shouldn't make a thread saying cams.com sucks, & mention 2 other programs that are "kicking ass" for you.

But thats just my opinion.

Everyones entitled to one.
Ummmm, well now, ok. Lets see, my traffic is not converting with your program what can you do to help me? Well, lets see.... oh, you only sent like 8000 send 22,000 more and we'll see how it does.

Meanwhile she could have sent it somewhere that works for her and made $$. She isn't saying cams.com is a shitty program or isn't worthy of someone elses traffic. She is saying her traffic works better else where. This happens. It is just the way it is.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:09 PM   #16
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:10 PM   #17
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Meanwhile she could have sent it somewhere that works for her and made $$
yup...instead of posting a semi-insulting thread about a program
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:11 PM   #18
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He is not bashing he is posting facts according to his results

he or she whatever
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We are doing great with them.. speak to one of the reps for a little help:-)
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:14 PM   #20
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He is not bashing he is posting facts according to his results

he or she whatever
Ok and what did he or she hope to accomplish by posting these facts?
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:15 PM   #21
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yup...instead of posting a semi-insulting thread about a program
I didn't think the post was insulting at all, or in anyway bashing the program.
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Ok and what did he or she hope to accomplish by posting these facts?
It has more merits then a would you hit it thread.

Who knows maybe this thread results in giving an impression of the perfomance of cams from a few different affiliates point of view.
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Ok and what did he or she hope to accomplish by posting these facts?
To relieve boredom. Did you even read the post? or just the title?
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I know it varies per affiliate, but I've had many sales with the same traffic with pretty much every other cam sponsor, but not cams.com

I should have taken the hint when I hit 0:8000!! Right now I'm 0:8956 and I'm pulling the plug and flushing down any hope.

That's all, a little bored, felt like posting.
did you try the % program ?
i always did better with that...
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I could use one. In fact, I have a flask of Southern Comfort under my desk I had forgotten about! Thank for reminding me.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:26 PM   #28
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Yeah, was pushing both programs pretty hard.
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deja vu'

wasn't this exact thread posted like few days ago ?
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lets be honest, generally speaking, speaking to reps is a waste of time. although there are some that do real well with helping you get the tools you need.

cams does decent, but it could be so great, if they limited the free chat time, or used a credit card verified free join if they're going to give unlimited free videochat. they could also lower prices or allow the models to lower their prices, 4.99 is ridiculous.

add on top of that they've recentley decided to give an additional 10% discount to premiere members and take that out on the models pay as well as their cut without even giving the models the choice to take it or not. premiere benefits cams not really the models but they are paying for it anyway.

i could go on and on and on, but i still like them. it's just not worth 4.99 for a european camgirl thats on 5 other sites at the same time some of them as low as $1 a minute or $1.50. but if you want to sit all day in free chat then its a surfers heaven
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lets be honest, generally speaking, speaking to reps is a waste of time. although there are some that do real well with helping you get the tools you need.

cams does decent, but it could be so great, if they limited the free chat time, or used a credit card verified free join if they're going to give unlimited free videochat. they could also lower prices or allow the models to lower their prices, 4.99 is ridiculous.

add on top of that they've recentley decided to give an additional 10% discount to premiere members and take that out on the models pay as well as their cut without even giving the models the choice to take it or not. premiere benefits cams not really the models but they are paying for it anyway.

i could go on and on and on, but i still like them. it's just not worth 4.99 for a european camgirl thats on 5 other sites at the same time some of them as low as $1 a minute or $1.50. but if you want to sit all day in free chat then its a surfers heaven

valid point
but cams.com is $2.99/minute afaik
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damn, i have hit 0/60,000 recently....but overall cams is one of my best sponsors so i stick with them, but there are some real nasty rough patches...and i don't like them as much since this melody.com aff merger thing, just stramray as a stand alone company was better....on my end at least.
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valid point
but cams.com is $2.99/minute afaik
their lowest price for models in the free chat is 2.99 but good luck finding anyone at that price. most girls are 3.99 or 4.99
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Did you talk to a sales rep?
A lot of people say this. Exactly how is a sales rep going to help you if you are sending traffic to their site that is not working?

You send 10k uniques to site A.
You send 10k uniques to site B, site B makes you no sales. What is sales rep for site B going to do other than credit you a sale for your efforts? Come on now. The only "advice" I have ever got from a sales rep was to display the trial price so that surfers who clicked my links knew what they were getting into. Yeah thanks.
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A lot of people say this. Exactly how is a sales rep going to help you if you are sending traffic to their site that is not working?

You send 10k uniques to site A.
You send 10k uniques to site B, site B makes you no sales. What is sales rep for site B going to do other than credit you a sale for your efforts? Come on now. The only "advice" I have ever got from a sales rep was to display the trial price so that surfers who clicked my links knew what they were getting into. Yeah thanks.
I'll give you an example....last summer i had a large amount of african american traffic, it didn't convert for shit at AAC, i hit up jill & aj....they made me the most perfect afro-american tour i had ever seen....make a few tweaks, & i went from 0 sales a day, to 8 sales a day.

Account reps will also look to see if you have your linking codes setup wrong etc. Any # of things a trained rep will find, that you won't....things you overlook...they don't.

If i'm not making any sales at your pharmacy fuzebox....would you help me create custom advertising for my campaigns? of course you would....& since you know pills better than me (atleast marketing wise ) u could help me get my sales off the ground
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anyone know what camcrush at nastydollars pays?? is it $35PPS and is that based on the free confirmed CC sign up or them actually spending money?? was just looking at the site and it looks good, didn't see a breakdown on the term for wm's tho
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You have to work a little with SEO. Search Engines traffic converts the best. With TGP traffic you'll have conversion like 1:10000 or 1:30000.
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little bored, so you felt like bashing a program.....

good luck in the biz dude...
Nothing wrong with posts about stats. Goood or Bad. It would be nice to see where he was sending traffic from, but if he claims he does better with other programs, then I'm sure his traffic can't be too bad.

Besides that I've seen several posts lately about cams not converting. So it's not like this guy is the first to make post about it.
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Oh dear are we going through this again. Maybe you just aren't good enough to push webcams. This week I got 3 sales with 47 free members on cams.com. That's a 1:15 Free member ratio.
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Oh dear are we going through this again. Maybe you just aren't good enough to push webcams. This week I got 3 sales with 47 free members on cams.com. That's a 1:15 Free member ratio.
You do realize your old members count towards those sales as well huh?
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But thats just my opinion.

Everyones entitled to one.

You're right and here's my opinion; you're a jerk off. The OP wasn't 'bashing' a program, jerk off, he was sharing his experience. That is valuable information to be shared with other wm's here so if anyone needs to be muzzled in this thread, that's you. IF he didn't choose to email a rep to ask why it's converting 1:8000 +, that's not your business and certainly doesn't take away from the validity of the post, ok jerk off?
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Ok and what did he or she hope to accomplish by posting these facts?

It's called sharing your experience and providing feedback on a program on an industry board. If someone is converting 1:8000 with 1 program and 1:32 with another I sure as shit would like to hear about it.

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Since I don't really promote webcams much, As long as I keep seeing checks from them, I'm cool...

I just followed their link from my site...You don't even have to login to see the free shows...I was going to say something to the girl but saw i had to sign up for a free chat account...But all I really have to do is wait for some other horndog to say the same thing while I can keep my hands greasy wanking off...

Thanks Sharkygirl...I love your sweet slim dark body..umm umm...

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Thanks for the post. It's tells me why my traffic doesn't convert with them.
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:32 AM   #49
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that sucks man!
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:39 AM   #50
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bashing? How about posting my experience and stats. When all is well they boast and post awesome conversions I'm sure - what about the bad times? We gotta pretend they don't exist?

If I was bashing I would say "cams.com fucken sucks" but no, they don't. They aren't a top cam site for no reason. I gotta admit that their promo tools and everything else is pretty sweet and looks good.

It just isn't working for me, that's all.
good post..

My only advice is ( as mentioned ) to always contact a sales rep if your numbers are in the shitter. I know sometimes it sounds stupid because they cant make you get sales but sometime it can be the smartes thing you can do..

Trust me and trust the couple people who mentioned it before me.. sometimes its something silly causing your shitty conversions thats easily spotted/fixed by a rep, sometimes its as simple as a banner or text change or placement..
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