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Old 12-18-2005, 12:22 PM   #1
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Hey folks! I'm feeling out of date and out of touch. My photo processing process is horribly behind the times, and I'm relearning a bunch of stuff.

For those of you who process photos to post online, do you use "Save as" in photoshop to make a jpg, or do you use the "Save for Web" option? And if you do the save to web, what quality level do you use for the big members area high quality photos? Just trying to find what an industry standard is these days for photo kb size and whatnot. Any help is much appreciated!
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aaaaaah i thought i would open this thread and see a sexy elli pic i have to judge....
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YARGH! I be usin' Save for web. Usually at 75 to 80
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I usually save at about a 8-9.

And I usually don't use the "web" option simply because it takes longer. I'm sure I could get smaller files if I did.
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I usually save at about a 8-9.

And I usually don't use the "web" option simply because it takes longer. I'm sure I could get smaller files if I did.

YARGH! Make an action. Run it in batch mode.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:31 PM   #6
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aaaaaah i thought i would open this thread and see a sexy elli pic i have to judge....
Alright, here's a sneak peek at what I'm working on.

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YARGH! A merry christmas indeed.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:34 PM   #8
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YARGH! Make an action. Run it in batch mode.
Aye aye, Cap'n Chio. I just want to make sure I have the actions right before I apply them to 80 photos.

K that one above is a hybrid. I saved at 90% in the Save to Web funtion, then resized and rotated in ACDSee and threw it online. It's about 95kb.
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YARGH! Make an action. Run it in batch mode.
i do that sometimes or i save for web and the files are significantly smaller. batching saves you some time though, especially if you have a whole lot of pictures in a set. =)
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Alright, here's a sneak peek at what I'm working on.

Nice! Is that for your new BBW site?
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I use "Save for Web" option because it gives more advanced options...
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Nice! Is that for your new BBW site?
You have the dubious honour of being the third person to join my ignore list. Congratulations.
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hehe.... who are the two others?
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Save for web is the way to go! Optimize those images. The web can only display 72 dpi images anyway. So if you are saving at like 150-300dpi (which is for print) it doesn't display any better than a 72 dpi image would on the web, so all that extra file size would be for nothing.
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Save for web is the way to go! Optimize those images. The web can only display 72 dpi images anyway. So if you are saving at like 150-300dpi (which is for print) it doesn't display any better than a 72 dpi image would on the web, so all that extra file size would be for nothing.
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Is that an un edited photo?
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Is that an un edited photo?
No, the unedited photo is 18MB and has harsh contrast problems with it.
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Save for web is the way to go! Optimize those images. The web can only display 72 dpi images anyway. So if you are saving at like 150-300dpi (which is for print) it doesn't display any better than a 72 dpi image would on the web, so all that extra file size would be for nothing.
Yeah, I work in 72dpi right from the get-go unless I'm making something for printing.
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Alright, here's a sneak peek at what I'm working on.

You are so well porportioned, that's it's a shock to see how petite you are in real life.

Pictures look great, as usual!
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When you use PS, you can sometimes save the photo at a lot less than 75% and it will stll look good. But if you have done a lot of touch up work to the photo, then the higher the % the better.
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Is that an un edited photo?
Here's the unedited version. The only edits I've done are rotate, resize, and compress a wee bit:

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Save for web is the best option if it's not for print.
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When you use PS, you can sometimes save the photo at a lot less than 75% and it will stll look good. But if you have done a lot of touch up work to the photo, then the higher the % the better.
Good to know, thank you!

And thanks you too, Rob!
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You are so well porportioned, that's it's a shock to see how petite you are in real life.

Pictures look great, as usual!
I'm not *that* small, am I?
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I end up keeping 4-5 versions of every photo we take.

1 is raw right out of the camera, freaking huge. That way I can always go back to the "source" material.

Then I do any color correction and retouching that needs to be done, and again save at full size. This is my corrected source.

Then I save two more versions for use on the web with watermarks, etc.

1) Save at 80-90% via save for web, these are for members area, tour, etc.

2) Save another at 40-50% via save for web, these are for thumb galleries. It'll cut the size in half, even if you dont reduce the image size. Saves a ton of bandwidth for TGP action.
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It's a sexy small!

I'm pretty big, so yes, you'd be small, compared to me.
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I end up keeping 4-5 versions of every photo we take.

1 is raw right out of the camera, freaking huge. That way I can always go back to the "source" material.

Then I do any color correction and retouching that needs to be done, and again save at full size. This is my corrected source.

Then I save two more versions for use on the web with watermarks, etc.

1) Save at 80-90% via save for web, these are for members area, tour, etc.

2) Save another at 40-50% via save for web, these are for thumb galleries. It'll cut the size in half, even if you dont reduce the image size. Saves a ton of bandwidth for TGP action.
I guess I'm not as behind the times as I thought.

hehe I keep multiple versions, too, and boy am I ever glad. I've been able to fix my old masters up so they look even better than when I first posted them. Nowadays I keep my RAWs, my retouched but still original size, and then the two sizes and the watermarked version.

Thanks for the 50% tip, I hadn't thought of that. Woot! Cheers!
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Smoking hot.

But if you wanna save yourself some retouch work, add more light. You can never have enough when shooting inside. You've got great skin tones, show it off.

I'm guessing you've already got a speedlight on the camera to get it looking that good. If you shoot a lot in a place where you can set it up (home studio, etc), external flash kit with the big umbrella lights pays for itself.

If you're working with a Nikon, you can also setup multiple speed lights in a master/slave setup and have them spread around the room. Two plus the built in flash on the camera makes a hell of a difference.
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Smoking hot.

But if you wanna save yourself some retouch work, add more light. You can never have enough when shooting inside. You've got great skin tones, show it off.

I'm guessing you've already got a speedlight on the camera to get it looking that good. If you shoot a lot in a place where you can set it up (home studio, etc), external flash kit with the big umbrella lights pays for itself.

If you're working with a Nikon, you can also setup multiple speed lights in a master/slave setup and have them spread around the room. Two plus the built in flash on the camera makes a hell of a difference.
Don't get me started. I personally own a Nikon D70 with the SB800 speedlight, and I have a couple hotlights on stands. However this photog who has been very kind to shoot for me has a Canon and uses kinoflo lights, and for some reason all his pictures come out very contrasty and dark. He doesn't use the flash at all. I haven't figured out what's going wrong, and neither has he.
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correct these shots by raised gamma then autobalance levels.

when shooting raw and then correcting the raw save the correction as a "tif" file. this become your new digital "negative". resaving the raw file as a jpg starts losing quality pretty fast in successive resaves.

when putting images on the web, crop extraneous image area which adds nothing to the shot to save file size, then resize the pix at the image size you want for presentation, today's surfer can handle about 120-150kb per image which gives a high quality shot. always "save for web" as this optimizes for 72 and give lowest file size/best image quality compromise.

although these shots are not lit properly too much light is just as bad as too little. the majority of shooters use too much light. use a gray card and expose on that and check camera histogram to see if you are blowing out highlights.

throw away the on camera flash, it is for shooting puppies, not glamour girls.
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Save for web is the way to go! Optimize those images. The web can only display 72 dpi images anyway. So if you are saving at like 150-300dpi (which is for print) it doesn't display any better than a 72 dpi image would on the web, so all that extra file size would be for nothing.
That's just what I was going to say. Save for web is the right one
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Alright, here's a sneak peek at what I'm working on.

Also, it helps if you save it in the .clothesoff extension...it's in the save for web options
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I find save as jpg allows you to embed a color profile and the tones are better. Save for web always washes my pictures out a little (just my experience)
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I know it saves time but I dislike the batching process of Photochop and I dont use 'save for the web' as it takes away the quality.

Most galleries I've made have 150x100 jpgs, 18-30kb in size - open to at least 800x600, anywhere from 100-250 kb.

oh yeah *edit* Elli is the beautiful yum

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