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Old 11-12-2006, 07:21 PM   #1
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Is 5 min. of video to much for a Free hosted galleries?

all our new sites that are launching next week have 5 min. for each exclusive girl on the Free Hosted galleries and on the trailers of the paysites.

Is this to much or a good thing?
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:23 PM   #2
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all our new sites that are launching next week have 5 min. for each
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:23 PM   #3
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Wayyyyy too much. Most men can probably rub one out in less than 2 mins.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:24 PM   #4
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Just put the whole members videos on the FHG's.

That way it saves them the hassle of having to reach in their pocket and get out their credit card.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:25 PM   #5
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you should cut it down so they dont blow their load
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:25 PM   #6
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Way to much...But the surfers are gonna love you.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:25 PM   #7
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I need about 7 minutes worth myself.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:26 PM   #8
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I guess this depends on if you want to make money or not. Thirty seconds max.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:28 PM   #9
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Wayyyyy too much. Most men can probably rub one out in less than 2 mins.
they dont show pussy and we created a new technology to make the sites interactive which we call InteractiveV2

Sample one of the new sites www.RedRumps.com
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:29 PM   #10
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it depends on what is shown in the video. 5 minutes of the girl intro part (pre-sex/pre nudity)

when eurobride tryout was updating i made a couple of galleries with 6+ minutes of clips from the begining of the story, (cooking, cleaning, ) and ending with the guy asking for the blowjob.

And a line like " see what she was willing to do to get to america"

got listed well and got good click thrus.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:33 PM   #11
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they dont show pussy and we created a new technology to make the sites interactive which we call InteractiveV2

Sample one of the new sites www.RedRumps.com
Very interesting.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:35 PM   #12
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Very interesting.
this is just a tease wait till you see how the hosted galleries look

its all in flash and we will make them click the video to check out more. the video screen will be clickable very interactive as you can see
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:36 PM   #13
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check out how 5 min of trailer looks with InteractiveV2 www.RedRumps.com
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:41 PM   #14
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Typical you are looking at about 80 seconds spread over a number of clips... this is for two reasons: 1 - more clips means there is "more" when in fact there is less, and 2 - is very hard for someone to wank off in 20 seconds or less... so keep the clips to a reasonable lenght.

Porn surfers have the attention spans of heavily caffeinated fleas. Don't expect them to sit for 5 minutes or to wait for a 5 minute video to download.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:44 PM   #15
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i usually have 2-3 clips that are 1 mun together...5 min is waaay too much...
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:45 PM   #16
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Typical you are looking at about 80 seconds spread over a number of clips... this is for two reasons: 1 - more clips means there is "more" when in fact there is less, and 2 - is very hard for someone to wank off in 20 seconds or less... so keep the clips to a reasonable lenght.

Porn surfers have the attention spans of heavily caffeinated fleas. Don't expect them to sit for 5 minutes or to wait for a 5 minute video to download.
That's were InteractiveV2 comes in, allowing them to jump right to the good shit if they want too without having to wait for the download
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:46 PM   #17
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yea that kinda is...
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:47 PM   #18
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yeah i think thats too long
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:49 PM   #19
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i think its too much
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:34 PM   #20
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Typical you are looking at about 80 seconds spread over a number of clips... this is for two reasons: 1 - more clips means there is "more" when in fact there is less, and 2 - is very hard for someone to wank off in 20 seconds or less... so keep the clips to a reasonable lenght.

Porn surfers have the attention spans of heavily caffeinated fleas. Don't expect them to sit for 5 minutes or to wait for a 5 minute video to download.
exactly

its going to lower our bandwith cost alot since they will be able to get in and out of the members section fast and get exactly what they need.
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:37 PM   #21
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Well I can understand from your point of view that they might be good.. But as someone who lists galleries... I won't use them.. for the reasons RawAlex outlined...
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:38 PM   #22
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I think a lot of sponsors stick with 1 minute. So
6 x 10 second clips
4 x 15 second clips OR
3 x 20 second clips
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Well I can understand from your point of view that they might be good.. But as someone who lists galleries... I won't use them.. for the reasons RawAlex outlined...
lookat what we have the surfer can choose up to 5 min most wont
www.RedRumps.com
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That's were InteractiveV2 comes in, allowing them to jump right to the good shit if they want too without having to wait for the download
Which is exactly what you DON'T WANT! Free video should NEVER NEVER NEVER be good enough to get the surfer off... then why would he buy?

salesmanship 101 - give them a taste, not a whole glass.
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Roger, the difference is simple: What you do on a tour or on a free gallery for a TGP is entirely different from what you do inside you membership site. Once they are inside, you have their money and you want to satisfy them. Until they have bought a membership, don't ever think about giving them enough to get off, or you will burn off 99% of your sales on the tour or in your free giveaway galleries.

As a webmaster, I would never promote a site that gives that much away.
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:01 PM   #26
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this is InteractiveV2

http://www.redrumps.com/gallery.php?...in=vodb_skin_1
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Roger, the difference is simple: What you do on a tour or on a free gallery for a TGP is entirely different from what you do inside you membership site. Once they are inside, you have their money and you want to satisfy them. Until they have bought a membership, don't ever think about giving them enough to get off, or you will burn off 99% of your sales on the tour or in your free giveaway galleries.

As a webmaster, I would never promote a site that gives that much away.
please look at what we have done we give them 5 min but they choose what they want to see with InteractiveV2 http://www.redrumps.com/gallery.php?...in=vodb_skin_1

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Which is exactly what you DON'T WANT! Free video should NEVER NEVER NEVER be good enough to get the surfer off... then why would he buy?

salesmanship 101 - give them a taste, not a whole glass.
Of course he was talking about the members section on our tour pages they only get the first 5 min of the video most of the time you dont even see tits

please check out our new technology http://www.redrumps.com/gallery.php?...in=vodb_skin_1
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Roger... that is TERRIBLE! 5 minutes is more than enough for any punter to pull the pud to. Sorry, but you want to TEASE them, not PLEASE them.

At 30 seconds or 15 seconds, it might be a cool thing... but at 5 minutes, forget it!
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Roger... that is TERRIBLE! 5 minutes is more than enough for any punter to pull the pud to. Sorry, but you want to TEASE them, not PLEASE them.

At 30 seconds or 15 seconds, it might be a cool thing... but at 5 minutes, forget it!
have you looked at what we are doing? http://www.redrumps.com/gallery.php?...in=vodb_skin_1

with the hosted galleries at the end of the video clip we will have them click the screen to see more.
Do you think they will choose the option to view it all or click 2 clips?
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I looked at it and there aint enough there to get off on. I really want to see the girls ass get cherry red to so give me a pass.

The whole time i am getting branded with the advertising and the signup form is right there.
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:16 PM   #32
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Indeed 30 secs max..They would probably lose intrest after 2 minutes anyways
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yes I looked... TWICE.

They will watch two clips and leave town... after they have finished cleaning themselves up. It's the same clip every time... but 4 minutes and 10 second of free video is just way too much.

Your concept might be good, but there is no way that much free anything is good for business.
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