Check this out IF you REALLY want to go mainstream - GoFuckYourself.com

fr0gman · 10-16-2006, 07:41 AM

Ok, the response to my earlier thread was outstanding. It seems that there are quite a few of our fellow webmasters who are interested in focusing on doing more in the mainstream (or mainRIVER as some pointed out). The sweet reality is that you can increase your profit by astounding amounts with a fraction of the traffic that is required to be profitable in adult. I have mainstream projects that are experiencing 1:35 conversion ratios on natural SE traffic and I have adult programs that are sitting at 0:15000 on natural SE traffic. Now everyone knows that there are infinite spaces between these two examples and I agree that they are extreme and do not represent the average, but I promise you that the basic truth in mainstream is that it takes fewer visitors to produce a sale and that it is much easier to produce that traffic. The bottom line is that there is less competition in many highly profitable mainstream niches compared to adult and if you take the tricks that you have learned in the adult industry and apply them to mainstream you will see results that will make you wonder why you waited until now.

For those of you that missed my previous thread ( http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/665649-swimming-mainstream-sharks.html ), I would highly recommend that you check it out and even more importantly I would suggest that you sign up for the programs that I have outlined in the accompanying web page ( http://richjerkdirect.com/gfy.html ). There is not ?magic bullet? but these are programs that consistently out produce anything that I have going in adult. I am sure that they will do the same for you.

For those of you that contacted me as a result of the other thread and for those of you that are serious about making the jump into the mainstream, I have decided to host a training seminar. Currently, I am thinking that in order to accommodate webmasters in various countries and time zones it will be necessary to hold these training sessions at varying times. Tentatively, I a looking at an early morning and a late evening sessions on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Each of the training sessions will be approximately 2 hours each and will either utilize GoToMeeting and/or Skype as the communication method. I want to say that I will not be charging anything for participation. I simply ask that if you decide to focus some or all of your efforts toward implementing what I will tech you that you agree to use my affiliate codes for the various programs that will be discussed. That seems fair to me. Hopefully there will be enough people interested in doing this that it will become an on-going seminar that will last 30 days. Then I will start back from the beginning with a new class.

I mentioned that I will not be charging for my part of this, but just so everyone knows up front that there will be some costs involved. I have broken them down as follows:

Domain names required for the full 30 day project: $299.00
30 days of hosting: $49.95
Scripts for the project: $150.00

So that brings the total for ?start-up? for this program to $498.95 and to be honest it would be well worth the investment at 3 times that amount. I wish that there were a way to do this without having to put out any cash, but the reality of the world is that nothing really comes for free and I am sure that you understand that.

In addition to the items listed above you will also be getting 16 hours of group instruction that comes with interactive webinar sessions and I am normally available at least 8 hours a day for questions. In short, when you are finished with your 30 day training sessions you will have a completely functional system that will be generating targeted traffic and subsequently mainstream sales. You will also have the tolls and skills necessary to take this system and replicate it across ANY niche that you would like. Even though this is a system designed to help you break into the mainstream market, you can also use these methods to improve your success in any segment of online marketing, even adult.

In order to get an idea of how many people might be interested in participating in this event I have placed a simple survey form online. Please take the time to fill out the form so that I will have a record of your interest and I will better be able to schedule the meetings. As I said I am planning to hold 2 meetings a day, 2 days a week, but if response is significant I will be happy to add 2 more days to the schedule. The pre-registrations form can be found at http://ouradvice.info/gfy_reg.html.

I look forward to making this work for everyone.

hjnet · 10-16-2006, 07:46 AM

Sounds good, bump for a good thread

Machete_ · 10-16-2006, 07:48 AM

if you make so much cash, why cant you at least have a design for that page? Why would anyone trust when all you have (as far as I can see) is a shitload of questionable .info domains?

topshelfdesign · 10-16-2006, 07:56 AM

im making top rbass design wise in the mainstream
www.altwebdesignuk.com

10-16-2006, 08:05 AM

i'm interested, fr0gman

CIVMatt · 10-16-2006, 08:08 AM

I've accually been doing this and making good money, contact me sometime fr0gman

Spudstr · 10-16-2006, 08:14 AM

Bump if you need hosting

Machete_ · 10-16-2006, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

Bump if you need hosting

it might be a good idea to make your sig click-able then...

Spudstr · 10-16-2006, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

it might be a good idea to make your sig click-able then...

heh, i realized that after I changed it a week or two ago :P

JD · 10-16-2006, 08:26 AM

niiiiice I'm in

fr0gman · 10-16-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

if you make so much cash, why cant you at least have a design for that page? Why would anyone trust when all you have (as far as I can see) is a shitload of questionable .info domains?

It takes all kinds of people for the world to go 'round. I am not looking to impress people I am looking for people that want to learn to make money. If a slick webdeisgn is what lures you then you are dealing witht he wrong guy. I will take function over form any day.

Pryda · 10-16-2006, 01:08 PM

sounds good

webCleo · 10-16-2006, 02:54 PM

BUMP for you ;)

fr0gman · 10-16-2006, 04:30 PM

The response to this has been great. I guess I was right. There are more than a few people on this board that are interested in diversifying their income streams.

I look forward to meeting all of you in our first session.

King Soil · 10-16-2006, 05:02 PM

I just signed up. Ive been doing adult for a while and really want to see what I can do with mainstream. I am sure there are quite a few other people here interested. I look forward to getting involved with this.

fr0gman · 10-16-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Soil

I just signed up. Ive been doing adult for a while and really want to see what I can do with mainstream. I am sure there are quite a few other people here interested. I look forward to getting involved with this.

The free exchange of ideas is always good. I wish that more people in the adult industry would embrace that concept.

It looks like we are going to have a very diverse group. Some people who have signed up are veterans and some are fairly new... the more the merrier.

8ball · 10-16-2006, 06:49 PM

awesome stuff!

fr0gman · 10-16-2006, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8ball

awesome stuff!

Yes it certainly is.

So far I have had 15 people pre register. I am hoping to get at least 15 more so that the meetings can start on the 1st of November. I think that it would be a great Christmas presant for each of you to have your own functioning mainstream matrix by December 1st.

fr0gman · 10-31-2006, 10:39 PM

OK people....

We start this thing on Thursday, November 2, 2006. If you have not yet registered and secured your required tools please send me an ICQ message or go to: http://ouradvice.info/gfy_reg.htm

This is going to be 30 days of work, fun and MO Money!!!

Spunky · 10-31-2006, 10:42 PM

Sign up page isn't loading for me

fallenmuffin · 10-31-2006, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

if you make so much cash, why cant you at least have a design for that page? Why would anyone trust when all you have (as far as I can see) is a shitload of questionable .info domains?

What kind of half baked question is that. If the page is full of text and no design it must be shit or a scam! Show me the flashy graphics and I'm game! lol.. wake up dude.

$5 submissions · 10-31-2006, 11:00 PM

Good looking out, Frogman. If anyone wants content for mainstream and also promotion workers, hit me up.

fr0gman · 10-31-2006, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Sign up page isn't loading for me

Sorry I missed the "L"

http://ouradvice.info/gfy_reg.html

fr0gman · 10-31-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Good looking out, Frogman. If anyone wants content for mainstream and also promotion workers, hit me up.

Outsourcing will certainly be mentioned...

Antonio · 10-31-2006, 11:21 PM

cliffnotes anyone? what is this guy spamming?

The Ghost · 10-31-2006, 11:21 PM

Seems like good info Fr0gman.

JD · 11-01-2006, 12:32 AM

I'll be there with lace panties on *kisses*

JD · 11-01-2006, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Good job! Nice to see you are getting it together. I just read the original thread again and will contact you soon on ICQ. Folks, mainstream is so simple now it?s easy. Here?s a simple scenario that just happened. I go fishing in Manitoba for monster pike every year. Anyway, a friend who was supposed to meet me couldn?t get into Canada so I grouped up with 5 doctors to save money on the puddle jump to the fishing camp. I was like fuck I have to spend 8 days with these boring fucks! The trip was going well and was putting the hurt on the fish and these doctors drank like Russians who failed a 12 step program.

To make a long story short, these doctors were hair transplant specialists. They were talking about how much their advertising was costing their business. So I gave them my pitch and 2 doctors took the bait. I told them I ?think? I could send them some clients, but I want 10% of the procedure cost. They agreed and we did not mention this again tell we flew out of camp.

It took me about a week to set up marketing (blog) and separate splash pages to track potential clients. I let it run for awhile and got busy with other projects. Then I got a phone call from one of the doctors thanking me for the fine work and he was glad to meet me ..bla bla bla. He mentioned sending more clients/traffic and they would increase my %. I said if you send me cash I will think about it. (I was joking with him) The next day I got a UPS next day package.

www.hunt101.com/img/442219.JPp

The time/money to set up blog and splash pages $500
SEO fees $1000 I use this company (www.businessol.com)

Profit: $23,500 THIS MONTH!

damn dude. will you be my new daddy?

StuBradley · 11-01-2006, 01:08 AM

Amway???

JD · 11-01-2006, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Only if you let me have this script! awempire.com That affiliate idea is pure genius!

transferring the domain and all properties now...

fr0gman · 11-01-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Good job! Nice to see you are getting it together.

Good to see you are watching me... tell the Big Guy I said HI.

fr0gman · 11-01-2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley

Amway???

onay tiay otnay amway...

Machete_ · 11-01-2006, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr0gman

onay tiay otnay amway...

does this mean you will stop spamming my blogs now?

fr0gman · 11-01-2006, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

does this mean you will stop spamming my blogs now?

I am 100% sure that I have never SPAMMED your blogs.

Machete_ · 11-01-2006, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr0gman

I am 100% sure that I have never SPAMMED your blogs.

Well, then its funny my blogs get spammed with .info domains from the same IP range your outsoursed textwrites post from...

JD · 11-01-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Well, then its funny my blogs get spammed with .info domains from the same IP range your outsoursed textwrites post from...

Drama????

fr0gman · 11-01-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Well, then its funny my blogs get spammed with .info domains from the same IP range your outsoursed textwrites post from...

You are HIGH man.

1st, what makes you think that I have "outsoursed textwrites"?

2nd, even if I did have "outsoursed textwrites" how woud you know what IP range they post from?

Do me a favor and get your facts straight before you lumber into a thread and start accusing me of stuff that simply makes no sense.

fr0gman · 11-01-2006, 03:32 PM

THIS JUST IN:

For those of you who were thinking about joining the seminar but were a little concerned bout the $299 investment in domain names, the registrar has just launched a special...

Special Offer!
Get .INFO names for only .75 /ea. SUPERINFO special is live. Use the code SUPERINFO Click here

...and for those of you who just want a great deal on INFO domains... well you can do it too.

mike330 · 11-02-2006, 08:03 AM

fr0gman, I'm interested.

Mike

charlie g · 11-02-2006, 08:19 AM

I am sorry to hijack your thread Frogman. What kind of doctor sends bundled cash via UPS? This reeks of bullshit.

fr0gman · 11-02-2006, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g

I am sorry to hijack your thread Frogman. What kind of doctor sends bundled cash via UPS? This reeks of bullshit.

No prob... I wondered that myself.

We have the second meeting happening tonight at 7:30 PM CST. If you are interested let me know.

fr0gman · 11-04-2006, 01:43 AM

I am pissed that this thread ain't made FIDDY yet...

JimiJimi · 11-05-2006, 10:18 PM

check out http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/674057-send-com-affiliate-program-mainstream-rss-feeds.html

SEND.COM AFFILIATE PROGRAM http://affiliate.send.com/ Mainstream RSS Feeds

Quality Product Line and Service. We offer a wide variety of quality products at reasonable prices. From Fine Wines & Liquors to Armour & Airplanes. In addition, our network is supported by a live customer service staff, available via phone, email, and live interactive support.

Top Commission. Earn an 8% commission on every sale.

sniperwolf · 11-05-2006, 11:04 PM

good stuff.. good luck with the ventures

fr0gman · 11-15-2006, 12:20 PM

Well, we are moving into our 3rd week of the meetings and everything is going quite well. I really think that everyone involved is learning from each other. I know that I have changed the system based on feedback from the participants.

For those of you who were asking about the next class: we will be launching a new group Dec 2, 2006. This will be the last class under the current "no fee" system. This means that in January we will be charging for participation so if you want to get some really intensive training that will help you move more into mainstream, or if you would like an interesting new way to drive SE targeted traffic to ANY niche that you promote, you should sign up now.

Please visit: http://www.powerpagematrix.com/

If you have questions feel free to ICQ me: 7746696

10-16-2006, 07:41 AM	#1
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	Check this out IF you REALLY want to go mainstream Ok, the response to my earlier thread was outstanding. It seems that there are quite a few of our fellow webmasters who are interested in focusing on doing more in the mainstream (or mainRIVER as some pointed out). The sweet reality is that you can increase your profit by astounding amounts with a fraction of the traffic that is required to be profitable in adult. I have mainstream projects that are experiencing 1:35 conversion ratios on natural SE traffic and I have adult programs that are sitting at 0:15000 on natural SE traffic. Now everyone knows that there are infinite spaces between these two examples and I agree that they are extreme and do not represent the average, but I promise you that the basic truth in mainstream is that it takes fewer visitors to produce a sale and that it is much easier to produce that traffic. The bottom line is that there is less competition in many highly profitable mainstream niches compared to adult and if you take the tricks that you have learned in the adult industry and apply them to mainstream you will see results that will make you wonder why you waited until now. For those of you that missed my previous thread ( http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/665649-swimming-mainstream-sharks.html ), I would highly recommend that you check it out and even more importantly I would suggest that you sign up for the programs that I have outlined in the accompanying web page ( http://richjerkdirect.com/gfy.html ). There is not ?magic bullet? but these are programs that consistently out produce anything that I have going in adult. I am sure that they will do the same for you. For those of you that contacted me as a result of the other thread and for those of you that are serious about making the jump into the mainstream, I have decided to host a training seminar. Currently, I am thinking that in order to accommodate webmasters in various countries and time zones it will be necessary to hold these training sessions at varying times. Tentatively, I a looking at an early morning and a late evening sessions on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Each of the training sessions will be approximately 2 hours each and will either utilize GoToMeeting and/or Skype as the communication method. I want to say that I will not be charging anything for participation. I simply ask that if you decide to focus some or all of your efforts toward implementing what I will tech you that you agree to use my affiliate codes for the various programs that will be discussed. That seems fair to me. Hopefully there will be enough people interested in doing this that it will become an on-going seminar that will last 30 days. Then I will start back from the beginning with a new class. I mentioned that I will not be charging for my part of this, but just so everyone knows up front that there will be some costs involved. I have broken them down as follows: Domain names required for the full 30 day project: $299.00 30 days of hosting: $49.95 Scripts for the project: $150.00 So that brings the total for ?start-up? for this program to $498.95 and to be honest it would be well worth the investment at 3 times that amount. I wish that there were a way to do this without having to put out any cash, but the reality of the world is that nothing really comes for free and I am sure that you understand that. In addition to the items listed above you will also be getting 16 hours of group instruction that comes with interactive webinar sessions and I am normally available at least 8 hours a day for questions. In short, when you are finished with your 30 day training sessions you will have a completely functional system that will be generating targeted traffic and subsequently mainstream sales. You will also have the tolls and skills necessary to take this system and replicate it across ANY niche that you would like. Even though this is a system designed to help you break into the mainstream market, you can also use these methods to improve your success in any segment of online marketing, even adult. In order to get an idea of how many people might be interested in participating in this event I have placed a simple survey form online. Please take the time to fill out the form so that I will have a record of your interest and I will better be able to schedule the meetings. As I said I am planning to hold 2 meetings a day, 2 days a week, but if response is significant I will be happy to add 2 more days to the schedule. The pre-registrations form can be found at http://ouradvice.info/gfy_reg.html. I look forward to making this work for everyone. __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696

10-16-2006, 08:08 AM	#6
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10-16-2006, 08:14 AM	#7
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10-16-2006, 01:08 PM	#12
Pryda Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 904	sounds good __________________ Babepedia

10-16-2006, 02:54 PM	#13
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10-16-2006, 07:46 AM	#2
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Sounds good, bump for a good thread

10-16-2006, 07:48 AM	#3
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	if you make so much cash, why cant you at least have a design for that page? Why would anyone trust when all you have (as far as I can see) is a shitload of questionable .info domains?

10-16-2006, 07:56 AM	#4
topshelfdesign Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 930	im making top rbass design wise in the mainstream www.altwebdesignuk.com

10-16-2006, 08:05 AM	#5
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	i'm interested, fr0gman

10-16-2006, 08:26 AM	#10
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	niiiiice I'm in

10-16-2006, 04:30 PM	#14
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	The response to this has been great. I guess I was right. There are more than a few people on this board that are interested in diversifying their income streams. I look forward to meeting all of you in our first session. __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696

10-16-2006, 05:02 PM	#15
King Soil Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 195	I just signed up. Ive been doing adult for a while and really want to see what I can do with mainstream. I am sure there are quite a few other people here interested. I look forward to getting involved with this.

10-16-2006, 06:49 PM	#17
8ball Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 558	awesome stuff! __________________

10-31-2006, 10:39 PM	#19
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	OK people.... We start this thing on Thursday, November 2, 2006. If you have not yet registered and secured your required tools please send me an ICQ message or go to: http://ouradvice.info/gfy_reg.htm This is going to be 30 days of work, fun and MO Money!!! __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696

10-31-2006, 10:42 PM	#20
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,934	Sign up page isn't loading for me __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

10-31-2006, 11:00 PM	#22
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Good looking out, Frogman. If anyone wants content for mainstream and also promotion workers, hit me up. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

10-31-2006, 11:21 PM	#25
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	cliffnotes anyone? what is this guy spamming?

10-31-2006, 11:21 PM	#26
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	Seems like good info Fr0gman. __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

11-01-2006, 12:32 AM	#27
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	I'll be there with lace panties on kisses

11-01-2006, 01:08 AM	#29
StuBradley Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,625	Amway??? __________________ 51-566-514

11-01-2006, 03:32 PM	#38
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	THIS JUST IN: For those of you who were thinking about joining the seminar but were a little concerned bout the $299 investment in domain names, the registrar has just launched a special... Special Offer! Get .INFO names for only .75 /ea. SUPERINFO special is live. Use the code SUPERINFO Click here ...and for those of you who just want a great deal on INFO domains... well you can do it too. __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696

11-02-2006, 08:03 AM	#39
mike330 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 20	fr0gman, I'm interested. Mike

11-02-2006, 08:19 AM	#40
charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,759	I am sorry to hijack your thread Frogman. What kind of doctor sends bundled cash via UPS? This reeks of bullshit.

11-04-2006, 01:43 AM	#42
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	I am pissed that this thread ain't made FIDDY yet... __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696

11-05-2006, 10:18 PM	#43
JimiJimi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 483	check out http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/674057-send-com-affiliate-program-mainstream-rss-feeds.html SEND.COM AFFILIATE PROGRAM http://affiliate.send.com/ Mainstream RSS Feeds Quality Product Line and Service. We offer a wide variety of quality products at reasonable prices. From Fine Wines & Liquors to Armour & Airplanes. In addition, our network is supported by a live customer service staff, available via phone, email, and live interactive support. Top Commission. Earn an 8% commission on every sale. __________________ Call or Click http://18666WebCam.com

11-05-2006, 11:04 PM	#44
sniperwolf Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,743	good stuff.. good luck with the ventures __________________ ~Accepting design works~

11-15-2006, 12:20 PM	#45
fr0gman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,093	Well, we are moving into our 3rd week of the meetings and everything is going quite well. I really think that everyone involved is learning from each other. I know that I have changed the system based on feedback from the participants. For those of you who were asking about the next class: we will be launching a new group Dec 2, 2006. This will be the last class under the current "no fee" system. This means that in January we will be charging for participation so if you want to get some really intensive training that will help you move more into mainstream, or if you would like an interesting new way to drive SE targeted traffic to ANY niche that you promote, you should sign up now. Please visit: http://www.powerpagematrix.com/ If you have questions feel free to ICQ me: 7746696 __________________ Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization! "Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks." Wild College Videos \| ICQ: 7746696